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Jack Griffin · Jul 26, 2013

Right now ACL are still trying to bring CCFC back to the Ricoh.. in the meanwhile they're keeping their powder dry about the potential to bring a new club to the stadium.

Well if Coventry move to Northampton and have the sort of weak crowds everyone anticipates isn't it time to do some market research?

ACL could see how many people are prepared to express an interest on buying a season ticket for a true Coventry owned club starting at the Ricoh next season.

If the numbers saying yes are sufficient then clearly they can cut ties with SISU and let them continue with their folly.

Snozz_is_god · Jul 26, 2013

I would quite like the idea of starting a new club or adopting 'Coventry Utd' in fact why don't they start 2, they could play alternate Saturdays at the Ricoh

Maybe 'Coventry Pheonix' & 'Coventry Utd'

This would double the chance of getting a Coventry team representing the City of Coventry in Coventry up the leagues.

Spionkop · Jul 26, 2013

Jack, this has got to be a contingency plan. Bottom of our hearts we want CCFC playing at the Ricoh and finally Sisu to go.
But if that doesn't happen a new Coventry City FC playing at the Ricoh has to be a plan. US, the fans, will know we are the true CCFC, whatever name we may choose.
Ideal scenario is, we get placed in Conference North/South or at worst, the league below. No debt, owned by us, at a superb ground. NO SISU. What heaven. With crowds between 6,000-10,000 we'll be well placed to get promotions and be back up where we are in 3 seasons. Viable, with fans who get to enjoy their team again. People will soon jump on the train.
And, it sends out the message to Sisu, WE are CCFC, not you and the 500 who go to Sixfields will soon realise what they've done. A team playing here would kill off this Northampton debacle. We could reclaim our history, just as Wimbledon did.
I stress, this is a contingency plan. But we must have it. Not ideal, I realise. But fans acting together will force the issue. I don't think us fans realise how much power we have working together.

Covkid1968# · Jul 26, 2013

Spionkop said:
Jack, this has got to be a contingency plan. Bottom of our hearts we want CCFC playing at the Ricoh and finally Sisu to go.
But if that doesn't happen a new Coventry City FC playing at the Ricoh has to be a plan. US, the fans, will know we are the true CCFC, whatever name we may choose.
Ideal scenario is, we get placed in Conference North/South or at worst, the league below. No debt, owned by us, at a superb ground. NO SISU. What heaven. With crowds between 6,000-10,000 we'll be well placed to get promotions and be back up where we are in 3 seasons. Viable, with fans who get to enjoy their team again. People will soon jump on the train.
And, it sends out the message to Sisu, WE are CCFC, not you and the 500 who go to Sixfields will soon realise what they've done. A team playing here would kill of this Northampton debacle. We could reclaim our history, just as Wimbledon did.
I stress, this is a contingency plan. But we must have it. Not ideal, I realise. But fans acting together will force the issue. I don't think us fans realise how much power we have working together.

Spot on!!! just not sure how feasible it is to start where you say. I suspect it would be in a league a hell of a lot lower.

stupot07 · Jul 26, 2013

Spionkop said:
Jack, this has got to be a contingency plan. Bottom of our hearts we want CCFC playing at the Ricoh and finally Sisu to go.
But if that doesn't happen a new Coventry City FC playing at the Ricoh has to be a plan. US, the fans, will know we are the true CCFC, whatever name we may choose.
Ideal scenario is, we get placed in Conference North/South or at worst, the league below. No debt, owned by us, at a superb ground. NO SISU. What heaven. With crowds between 6,000-10,000 we'll be well placed to get promotions and be back up where we are in 3 seasons. Viable, with fans who get to enjoy their team again. People will soon jump on the train.
And, it sends out the message to Sisu, WE are CCFC, not you and the 500 who go to Sixfields will soon realise what they've done. A team playing here would kill off this Northampton debacle. We could reclaim our history, just as Wimbledon did.
I stress, this is a contingency plan. But we must have it. Not ideal, I realise. But fans acting together will force the issue. I don't think us fans realise how much power we have working together.

Afc Wimbledon had to start in the 9th tier (3 tiers lower than conference north/south) and took them 9 seasons to achieve the 5 promotions to get into league two. Wimbledons first match in the 9th tier attracted 4657 fans.

Spionkop · Jul 26, 2013

Covkid, a few have said the FA have discretion in where they place you. They would know that we have decent support. Two or three thousand turning up at the Dog & Duck FC ground wouldn't be on. They'd have that in mind. A club of our stature in this trouble is unique I'd say.
Even Wolves, when they dropped to the bottom division, weren't in this trouble.
I don't know is the answer, but I'd be optimistic that we'd get at worst, the division below Conference North. So from there, 4 straight promotions with an enthusiastic support, we'd be back where we are. SISU Northampton will likely have ceased to exist. We could dance on their grave. And get our club back.

Spionkop · Jul 26, 2013

Did somebody speak? Thought I heard a little whining sound.

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Jul 26, 2013

Covkid1968` said:
Spot on!!! just not sure how feasible it is to start where you say. I suspect it would be in a league a hell of a lot lower.

one of the guys at work is a Rushden fan and says no lower than Southern League Premier because of the potential travelling fans lower than this and there are problems.

saltaire bantam · Jul 26, 2013

Covkid1968` said:
Spot on!!! just not sure how feasible it is to start where you say. I suspect it would be in a league a hell of a lot lower.

I keep saying it, health & safety issues will not allow "Coventry" to play in a league where they'd take 1000's away to grounds used to hosting 50-100. How high you start in the pyramid will be determined by how many ST tickets you sell. You would be a special case. SPL Gretna went "pop" but Rangers didn't start in the lower highland league.

You'd probably arrive in the Conference at the same as SISU, tough league to get out of, as Luton have found out.

stupot07 · Jul 26, 2013

saltaire bantam said:
I keep saying it, health & safety issues will not allow "Coventry" to play in a league where they'd take 1000's away to grounds used to hosting 50-100. How high you start in the pyramid will be determined by how many ST tickets you sell. You would be a special case. SPL Gretna went "pop" but Rangers didn't start in the lower highland league.

We're not Rangers

saltaire bantam · Jul 26, 2013

It's a comparison, you would be too big to start where new club should.

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Jul 26, 2013

Spionkop said:
Covkid, a few have said the FA have discretion in where they place you. They would know that we have decent support. Two or three thousand turning up at the Dog & Duck FC ground wouldn't be on. They'd have that in mind. A club of our stature in this trouble is unique I'd say.
Even Wolves, when they dropped to the bottom division, weren't in this trouble.
I don't know is the answer, but I'd be optimistic that we'd get at worst, the division below Conference North. So from there, 4 straight promotions with an enthusiastic support, we'd be back where we are. SISU Northampton will likely have ceased to exist. We could dance on their grave. And get our club back.

Rushden and Diamonds actually play at The Dog and Duck

RPHunt · Jul 26, 2013

I knew a couple of people who were involved with AFC Wimbledon from their earliest days. From what I remember, Wimbledon had to apply to their local association for membership and it was they who decided at what level they would start, so it night have to be somewhere in the Midland Football Combination.

Supporting AFC Wimbledon during their rise, was evidently hugely enjoyable. From being minnows, in the leagues they had become used to, Wimbledon fans were now following a big fish. Promotion, nearly, every year, taking thousands to grounds that barely saw 100 every other match-day and setting new attendance records throughout those leagues.

Sounds a lot more fun to me than the gloom CCFC supporters can expect if SISU are in charge for another 10 years.

Flying Fokker · Jul 26, 2013

Yep. I'm all for plan b now.

Grendel · Jul 26, 2013

What about all the fans who are pledging to go to every away game this season? They must believe the club will return to Coventry and the chances are it will.

Then this new club will fold and die.

Flying Fokker · Jul 26, 2013

Aw shucks, thwarted again.

@richh87 · Jul 26, 2013

I'm in. Fuck Northampton Sky Blues and anyone who turns up to see them at 'home'.

Form our own club.

Grendel · Jul 26, 2013

@richh87 said:
I'm in. Fuck Northampton Sky Blues and anyone who turns up to see them at 'home'.

Form our own club.

What about "away"

Jack Griffin · Jul 26, 2013

Any new club will be winning all the time. will be fun. I like the positive in this.

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Jul 26, 2013

Grendel said:
What about "away"

Away this season because its too late to join any league for the coming season that way you wont get out of the habit of going to a game

@richh87 · Jul 26, 2013

Grendel said:
What about "away"

Don't you understand the difference between 'home' and away? Supporting CCFC in Northampton is supporting a move away from Coventry by showing that people will happily turn up.

Going to away games is normal, and besides if done in numbers it shows the spineless Football League that there's support for City, but on our f*cking terms; not evil Joy's.

Of course you know all of this; and as usual are misbehaving for attention.

Vedere · Jul 26, 2013

Forget the 'AFC' part. It should simply be FC Coventry (1883) - along the lines of FC Barcelona and lots of other great European teams; fans having a say in the club!

I still think we will play at the Ricoh, not all hope is lost!

However, the minute CCFC move out of the city they're dead to me!

I only support them because of the Coventry part...if that's taken away f€&@ them!

stupot07 · Jul 26, 2013

Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Away this season because its too late to join any league for the coming season that way you wont get out of the habit of going to a game

So about 8500 will be out of the habit of going to games before setting up a new club next season

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Jul 26, 2013

stupot07 said:
So about 8500 will be out of the habit of going to games before setting up a new club next season

Could well be heres the alternative we play in Northampton for 3,4,5 or more years lose about 8500 no kids going so no future support :thinking about:

SkyBlueHomer · Jul 26, 2013

This is something that would have to be thought about carefully no knee-jerk reactions. Could I support a new ccfc, no idea. Next season few more away games otherwise its my home town Bedworth Utd for me & would I expect others to follow their local team. Personally I don't think people of Coventry could stick to a new ccfc when these 10-0 wins dont materialize. Starting league level 8 at best I think which has likes of Bedworth in it. What happens when original ccfc returns to Cov & if they come back with new owners?

Noggin · Jul 26, 2013

Things need to get a little worse before the support is really going to be there for this, there is still alot of misplaced optimism, give it a season

Vedere · Jul 26, 2013

It's a big 'if' for us to return. Not that I think SISU intend to develop Coventry into a franchise but I think their poor management of the whole thing will mean CCFC as we know it will vanish!

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Jul 26, 2013

Most people on here and the ones that not keep saying my club this my club that',I think its been proved over the last few months that this is not our club and never really was or will ever be. We have no say or should I say haven't had, this is our chance like 130 years ago when a few lads from a Coventry firm decided to form a football club it was theirs it could be ours something to be proud of not embarrassed about. Something that in years others can say we're proud of those Coventrians for sticking it to the man.
Not united or anything else just COVENTRY play in Sky Blue play in Coventry sing all our songs involve OUR community help our businesses show we are not going to lie down and be walked over by a bunch of arseholes. If you're not in the Trust join show the strength that we have fuck these twats. If you're concerned about the "history" dont be the history of CCFC is in OUR hearts the memories are in OUR memory not theirs. If we do this are we going to be any worse off than sticking with these leaches? I dont think so it might actually be enjoyable and how long has it been since we've been able to say that. sorry for rambling but Ive had a couple of drinks

Deleted member 5849 · Jul 26, 2013

Vedere said:
It's a big 'if' for us to return. Not that I think SISU intend to develop Coventry into a franchise but I think their poor management of the whole thing will mean CCFC as we know it will vanish!

If CCFC do vanish, that's the time.

georgehudson · Jul 27, 2013

so, surely time for JS, TF, & clingers on, to continue, or expand,even attempt an explanation, as to the line trotted out by Igwe about lots more communication with the fans,
in reality, (bizarre sisu concept), the thousands of fans i've spoken with, treat & consider, the owners with a level of scorn unmatched, even by previous incumbents,
yet, the FL & FA have digits firmly in unusual places

Gary.j · Jul 27, 2013

Jack Griffin said:
Right now ACL are still trying to bring CCFC back to the Ricoh.. in the meanwhile they're keeping their powder dry about the potential to bring a new club to the stadium.

Well if Coventry move to Northampton and have the sort of weak crowds everyone anticipates isn't it time to do some market research?

ACL could see how many people are prepared to express an interest on buying a season ticket for a true Coventry owned club starting at the Ricoh next season.

If the numbers saying yes are sufficient then clearly they can cut ties with SISU and let them continue with their folly.

Well, we could start by seeing how many are prepared just to hit a "like" button on Facebook! Come on everyone, shout it out and share it to everybody you know, we need to show that we mean business!

https://www.facebook.com/Coventry1883

Gary.j · Jul 27, 2013

Flying Fokker said:
Yep. I'm all for plan b now.

Yep, but make it plan A!

https://www.facebook.com/Coventry1883

Gary.j · Jul 27, 2013

RPHunt said:
I knew a couple of people who were involved with AFC Wimbledon from their earliest days. From what I remember, Wimbledon had to apply to their local association for membership and it was they who decided at what level they would start, so it night have to be somewhere in the Midland Football Combination.

Supporting AFC Wimbledon during their rise, was evidently hugely enjoyable. From being minnows, in the leagues they had become used to, Wimbledon fans were now following a big fish. Promotion, nearly, every year, taking thousands to grounds that barely saw 100 every other match-day and setting new attendance records throughout those leagues.

Sounds a lot more fun to me than the gloom CCFC supporters can expect if SISU are in charge for another 10 years.

This! And, it would be OURS!

(Btw, B.C.F.A told me midland combination div 2, that was the official initial response but Saltaire Bantam makes good points).

We can do this guys, we've got to show the numbers though! Come on, get on the campaign!

https://www.facebook.com/Coventry1883

Gary.j · Jul 27, 2013

Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Could well be heres the alternative we play in Northampton for 3,4,5 or more years lose about 8500 no kids going so no future support :thinking about:

And that's the point! It may not seem very glamorous in the lower leagues to some, but it's all about building a strong stable club, and securing the legacy for our city, and our future generations.

Two choices; roll over and lie down, or stand and fight! I'd rather die trying!

https://www.facebook.com/Coventry1883

Gary.j · Jul 27, 2013

Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Most people on here and the ones that not keep saying my club this my club that',I think its been proved over the last few months that this is not our club and never really was or will ever be. We have no say or should I say haven't had, this is our chance like 130 years ago when a few lads from a Coventry firm decided to form a football club it was theirs it could be ours something to be proud of not embarrassed about. Something that in years others can say we're proud of those Coventrians for sticking it to the man.
Not united or anything else just COVENTRY play in Sky Blue play in Coventry sing all our songs involve OUR community help our businesses show we are not going to lie down and be walked over by a bunch of arseholes. If you're not in the Trust join show the strength that we have fuck these twats. If you're concerned about the "history" dont be the history of CCFC is in OUR hearts the memories are in OUR memory not theirs. If we do this are we going to be any worse off than sticking with these leaches? I dont think so it might actually be enjoyable and how long has it been since we've been able to say that. sorry for rambling but Ive had a couple of drinks

Don't ever apologise for being passionate about our club. We have the power! Let's take it back!

https://www.facebook.com/Coventry1883

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