Nick
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Still, nothing at all like you claimed...
Still, nothing at all like you claimed...At that time I didn't know what "Trolling, Multiple accounts or anything else meant. All I know is, there was a lot of bullying going on, Non more so than from a woman called Mrs Angry. Nasty piece of work was that one.
Basically what I said then.
This "an offer not made to SISU or CCFC"
You could say "if you don't ask you don't get".
Did CCC offer 250 years to Wasps or did Wasps ask for or demand it, I suspect the latter. From memory were SISU not offered a 100 year lease at one point. Really shouldn't get hung up on the number of years in any case the value to CCC of 100 years to 250 years is not going to be massively different.
At no point it seems to me did the parties get to a position where SISU were bidding for the whole of ACL. The freehold was never on the market, it didn't need to be. By August 2012 SISU and AEHC had negotiated for the AEHC shares and both parties walked away. By December 2012 CCC and SISU had done a deal dependent on SISU owning the AEHC shares - they had walked away from owning those earlier so how could the CCC deal work?. When CCC were selling the shares to Wasps Seppala said they wouldn't interfere. The offer to AEHC in October 2014 it would seem was not better than the Wasps one overall so was rejected (see post above). Fisher then said they were not deals he would have done on those terms - so had they been offered the same terms they would have rejected them it seems. SISU had 7 years to get some sort of deal, you can say CCC would never have given it to CCFC/SISU but when exactly did any cohesive interest take place. It seems to me that what went on was buying time whilst ACL became distressed but that's just my opinion, others will differ I accept
Yes the Ricoh should have been CCFC's, but too many games not enough real intention on many sides it seems to me and SISU played a very large part in that.
Exactly what it says, resources that were wasted. Hence multiple others also closed.So what did "Wasted resources" mean then... Everything was hunky dory?
So what did "Wasted resources" mean then... Everything was hunky dory?
SISU will have you appearing as their star witness with comments like that! CCC made a £14m loan to a struggling, even if nobody would admit it at the time, ACL who were in dispute with CCFC over unpaid rent on the basis that the rent CCFC weren't paying would cover the repayments!
No wonder Mutton said at the time ' Not many councils would have done what we've done',
Now what are you on about?Are you completely oblivious to the details and outcome of JR 1 by accident or through choice?
"The loan was supposed to be paid off with revenue off CCFC" what the fuck are you on about.
On this thread you've stated the people of Coventry we're glad as the council would have been in debt. Bollocks - 90% of Coventry didn't even know the loan existed anyway. They don't care.
ACL got the rent money from CCFC. ACL was repaying the loan. The rent strike showed the dependence on CCFC. After that everyone knew about the loan.
What the fuck are you on about?
I can not help thinking of the Vichy French when I read some of the comments from the more sympathetic to SISU on here.
Yes the Germans are in charge but I still whole hardly support the French state. Blowing up railway stations is damaging France not Germany.
Can someone point out 1 bit of action that has actually had an effect on sisu. Not ccfc who've lost their home, thousands of fans and league position. What has damaged sisu and how have they been damaged?
Did you see the state of Joy at the recent court case?What has damaged sisu and how have they been damaged?
Can someone point out 1 bit of action that has actually had an effect on sisu. Not ccfc who've lost their home, thousands of fans and league position. What has damaged sisu and how have they been damaged?
How much have the court cases cost SISU so far?
How much have the court cases cost SISU so far?
That's still not what he asked though
So what you're saying is cov fans haven't hurt sisu at all. They've only hurt themselves.I am answering a question with a question.... a known tactic on here ;-)
I'm not fucking up the club the only ones that are fucking up the club are the owners and what a great job they have done and are continuing to do. If we were in the same position as we were when they took us over do you really think we would be getting crowds of 6000?So what you're saying is cov fans haven't hurt sisu at all. They've only hurt themselves.
My question still stands. How have sisu been damaged by any of the actions taken by our fans. As far as I can tell we're only fucking up the club we profess to support.
Yeah I used to be on that. Can't remember my username though. Famed for Vicky and Adrian.
So what you're saying is cov fans haven't hurt sisu at all. They've only hurt themselves.
My question still stands. How have sisu been damaged by any of the actions taken by our fans. As far as I can tell we're only fucking up the club we profess to support.
Yes, it's more SISU destroying themselves... doing very well at that without fans help. Don't see much that the fans can do to help them destroy themselves... Still the action at the Sheffield game was justified and necessary although I don't think it should happen on a regular basis. The fans had to say something at that point and show their discontent- regardless of whether it hurt SISU or not.
Still doesn't answer his question
To the every day man on the street, they would have thought that ACL didnt rely on CCFC, ACL was washing it's face and CCFC was only a small factor as that's what was being pushed through the media / PR lines.
I said they don't need fans help to destroy themselves. Which implies trying to hurt SISU through CCFC won't hurt SISU as much as SISU have hurt themselves.
the everyday man on the street wouldn't have a clue who ACL are. Just because CCFC is a large part of our lives, many people go around completely unaware of the ins and outs of this mess
So in conclusion nothing fans have done has hurt sisu. NOPM doesn't hurt sisu, marches don't hurt sisu, flying pigs don't hurt sisu.
I can't believe the trust, after 9 years of sisu being here haven't managed to focus their attention on sisu's business activities and offices. Arranging days where people block their phones all day. A picket line outside their offices. Adverts in the FT about their many failures.
Yeah fair enough but those are just a couple of things off the top of my head. Surely an organisation with hundreds, if not thousands, of members could come up with legal means of targeting sisu and not city.In fairness to the Trust, I am not sure if some of that would cross a few "legal" lines so can understand people from the trust with mortgages, families etc not wanting to put their name to things like that.
Yeah fair enough but those are just a couple of things off the top of my head. Surely an organisation with hundreds, if not thousands, of members could come up with legal means of targeting sisu and not city.
How does law work around something like the trust. Could they vote for illegal measures and then when sisu bring legal action disband with those on the board saying they were against the idea and it was done by unknown members.Well yeah, there are ways direct at SISU but just if it is stuff like blocking phone lines that could be something like obstructing business or whatever law / angle could be pulled it's understandable if they aren't there leading it.
How does law work around something like the trust. Could they vote for illegal measures and then when sisu bring legal action disband with those on the board saying they were against the idea and it was done by unknown members.
I'm not suggesting this happen I'm just curious as to how the trust is treated under law.
So you are agreeing with him? What you say now makes hurting CCFC to try and get at SISU even more pointless
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