Stop the clock (1 Viewer)

[CDK]

Robins time works perfectly.

 

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[shmmeee]

Just need a general “being pricks” rule

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

A few points on this matter.
Having a 60 minute stop clock system must not happen as it's clearly unpractical in all forms of the game. Hardly going to be done at Sunday League or even Conference standard.

Timewasting has become almost as bad for the image of the game as faking fowls. Wigan were absolutely terrible and took it in turns to just sit on the floor and feigning some injury.

Something has to be done and it seems that it has at this world cup. Officials playing 9 or 10 minutes injury time in both halfs seems to have eradicated time wasting. It's pretty boring have such long injury times played but its worked.

I suggest UK officials follow the same pattern. for those people who leave 5 or 10 minutes early in a match they would miss a massive portion of the game and might think twice in future about that. However people do need to know when a game is likely to finish though for planning their journey. For instance 1500 kickoff would normally finish at around 1650 to 1655 and could be 1700 or 1710! However as soon as managers know timewasting is literally a 'waste of time' under new system they wouldnt do it anymore.

It's no more impractical than making them work out injury time. For that they need to have one watch on continuously and another that they stop and start to work out injury time to add on.

Or they could just stop and start a stopwatch and see how much time's left.

 

[wingy]

I like the idea, but do wonder if the opposing team start doing everything they can to feign 'fouls' from challenges, particularly if the team is near the limit. May well work with VAR (sigh) who could check the validity of each yellow card decision - leading to a yellow for the other team trying to con the ref. E quite like the player having to go off for 10 minutes for a yellow (again, checked by VAR, to avoid incorrect decisions, or a yellow for the other player if they have dived etc.

Oops there's a further ten minutes lol

Anyway overall any talk of it being restricted to 60-70 minutes needs to stop.
That would be rewarding chelating.
They can FO, you're reducing a third of the game that you've been given to beat them

 

[play_in_skyblue_stripes]

It's no more impractical than making them work out injury time. For that they need to have one watch on continuously and another that they stop and start to work out injury time to add on.

Or they could just stop and start a stopwatch and see how much time's left.

At grass roots level this would be difficult to implement. It's hard enough getting referees already. To have this extra burden and chance of mistakes would deter amateur ref's. I remember in my playing days, the abuse they got . It would get maybe even worse if they got it perceived as wrong.

 

[Legia Sky Blue]

At grass roots level this would be difficult to implement. It's hard enough getting referees already. To have this extra burden and chance of mistakes would deter amateur ref's. I remember in my playing days, the abuse they got . It would get maybe even worse if they got it perceived as wrong.

Surely if it was cut and dried, ie the clock only runs when the ball is in play, then there is little room for argument. Much less than now anyway, when it is much more arbitrary, depending on the whim of a ref as to whether he wants to add time on or not.

 

[robbiekeane]

Oops there's a further ten minutes lol

Anyway overall any talk of it being restricted to 60-70 minutes needs to stop.
That would be rewarding chelating.
They can FO, you're reducing a third of the game that you've been given to beat them

You’re missing the point. The game has never been a “90 minutes in play” game.

The way it’s going at the World Cup it’s adding literally all of the time it was not in play on after 90 minutes has been played, making the game ridiculously long.

If they go down this route they need to make the game 70 minutes. I would suggest they stop the clock though rather than add on

 

[robbiekeane]

bump

 

[northstander]

Don't need new rules, the officials need to enforce existing rules properly.

 

[Captain Dart]

Listening to CWR on my way home yesterday and Oggy said there are moves afoot to impose an 8 second limit on goalies holding the ball with a corner being given if they hold on too long. I think they tried something similar before and it was never properly enforced.

 

[Shannerz]

No

We just need officials to be stronger with teams taking the piss.

 

[robbiethemole]

The rule at the moment is 6 seconds, so why extend it?
The shit refs we have don’t enforce it now so it wont make any difference, just allow more timewasting

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

Whether it’s this or something else. Something needs to change

 

[Nick]

They will bring rules in, figures in football like Klopp (I know he's let Liverpool) will whinge about it and it will get changed back again. Just like when we were seeing 11 or 12 minutes added time every week.

Poor players were too tired for it (until of cause they can fly around the world for friendlies).

 

[Nick]

Whether it’s this or something else. Something needs to change

Officials need to grow some bollocks and start booking and then second booking for it. It would soon stop when teams are down to 9 because of it.

 

[Otis]

Officials need to grow some bollocks and start booking and then second booking for it. It would soon stop when teams are down to 9 because of it.

Yup and only allow the captain to approach the ref. No-one else.

That Hannibal of theirs yesterday, showed an incredible amount of dissent and should have been red carded.

 

[Nick]

Yup and only allow the captain to approach the ref. No-one else.

That Hannibal of theirs yesterday, showed an incredible amount of dissent and should have been red carded.

There's just no consistency. After we scored, their players were screaming in the faces of the lino and the ref but no bookings.

Few minutes later, Kitching says something after one of our players get studded and it's a yellow. Lampard says something, red card.

 

[peteCCFC]

Whether it’s this or something else. Something needs to change

Unless we're winning, of course! Football fans are so fickle.
It seems to be brilliant 'gamesmanship' when we do it, then throw the toys out if our opponents do it.

 

[Nuskyblue]

I voted no. Understand the argument and yes we'd get more football and all that but you would still get all this bullshit in games. The shit housing effectively killed any chance of a game of football breaking out. The stop clock would make it worse IMO.

The referees just need to grow a pair and ignore the nonsense (feigning injury & diving) and actually penalise blatant time wasting. In the big international tournaments the refs basically ignored players rolling on the floor... refs in England have disappeared up their own arses. Filled with a sense of their own importance, trying to be mates with the players on the pitch.

 

[Nuskyblue]

Just need a general “being pricks” rule

"Back to Old Trafford where the whole Manchester United team, bench and crowd have been shown the red card"

 

[Otis]

Unless we're winning, of course! Football fans are so fickle.
It seems to be brilliant 'gamesmanship' when we do it, then throw the toys out if our opponents do it.

Not from me and I dare say, many others too.

I hate it when we do it too.

It's anti-football.

 

[Chicken Mcgraw]

Unless we're winning, of course! Football fans are so fickle.
It seems to be brilliant 'gamesmanship' when we do it, then throw the toys out if our opponents do it.

First home game we’ve lost in a long time and they start this nonsense again. How about the time we wasted setting up set pieces and long throws? The time we wasted trying to get Hannibal booked or the time Torp wasted crying on the floor for no reason.

Pathetic

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

Unless we're winning, of course! Football fans are so fickle.
It seems to be brilliant 'gamesmanship' when we do it, then throw the toys out if our opponents do it.

No I don’t think even if we win. People pay a lot these days to only have the game on for a 55 minutes is ridiculous.

All for a bit of shithousery just think it’s a 90 minute game. It should be played for as close to 90 minutes as possible

 

[SBT]

Think I said it earlier in this same thread, but I think people are massively under-estimating how much a stop clock system would change tactics and the way teams manage out games.

Bizarre that the 2022 WC seemed to have found a solution for it but it just got quietly abandoned.

 

[Balli001]

Listening to CWR on my way home yesterday and Oggy said there are moves afoot to impose an 8 second limit on goalies holding the ball with a corner being given if they hold on too long. I think they tried something similar before and it was never properly enforced.

Yes that rule is coming in next season

 

[SBAndy]

Was enlightening hearing Mark Clattenburg voicing that he felt the reason 6 seconds wasn’t enforced was that it was “too harsh”. Don’t give a fuck, mate. Can’t decide which rules to apply and which to ignore.

 

[shmmeee]

Was enlightening hearing Mark Clattenburg voicing that he felt the reason 6 seconds wasn’t enforced was that it was “too harsh”. Don’t give a fuck, mate. Can’t decide which rules to apply and which to ignore.

This is why people hate referees. It’s not your job to write the rules mate.

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

Bradley Walsh from The Chase he knows how to stop the clock.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

This 8 second rule will be heavily enforced for about a month.

They also need to include goal kicks and go back to take it the side it goes out.

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

First home game we’ve lost in a long time and they start this nonsense again. How about the time we wasted setting up set pieces and long throws? The time we wasted trying to get Hannibal booked or the time Torp wasted crying on the floor for no reason.

Pathetic

Congratulations, You've just summed up what's wrong with every game in the football world.

 

[SBAndy]

This 8 second rule will be heavily enforced for about a month.

They also need to include goal kicks and go back to take it the side it goes out.

Think a month is generous.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

Think a month is generous.

I originally thought a week but hoped they might show a bit of back bone

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Listening to CWR on my way home yesterday and Oggy said there are moves afoot to impose an 8 second limit on goalies holding the ball with a corner being given if they hold on too long. I think they tried something similar before and it was never properly enforced.

Won't make the slightest bit of difference adding 2 seconds onto the existing rule. Most hold it for longer than 8 seconds anyway.

 

[JAM See]

The goalie thing is easy to enforce. Just do it and stick to it.

The issue with players going down and halting the game is also easy to address.

If a player is injured (player safety is paramount), then let the game continue whilst the 'injured' player is being treated.

Let's be honest. In a situation where a player is genuinely hurt (David Busst for example) all the players will stop anyway.

 

[harvey098]

I’m probably not renewing my ST next season for the first time in my adult life. I still get a buzz when Cov win but football as a sport has lost its magic really.

- The timewasting, which refs literally do nothing to stop.
- Fouls given for the slightest thing
- Players being absolute pussies.
- The possession based game which is effective but boring to watch (give me route one chaos and “stick it in the mixer” every time).
- The games all spread out at random times across the weekend (or even week)
- the gap between the prem and champ being so big that it’s almost impossible to stay up if we got there.
- The media training making every post match interview sound the same.

Either that or I’m just getting old, miserable and cynical.