To be honest Otis It wasn't me who changed the thread.
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I'm either very drunk or I never ever wrote that. :thinking about:
SBTaylor says.....To your point about young players: 'if you're good enough, you're old enough', Wilson and Philliskirk haven't been destroyed by playing as a lone striker, in fact, how would playing with another inexperienced striker help? Also, I'm not one for accommodating 1 at best, mediocre, at worst shit, player and actually the team plays better at 4-5-1, we have no worthy striker as Leon and Elliott are out,
I agree if you're good enough, you're old enough...Why was Wilson brought off against Brentford and Bell on after 64 mins then?
Why was Philliskirk brought off against Orient and McDonald on after 70 mins?
SP left both of these youngsters on their own for 64, and 70 mins respectively. what purpose did that serve?...Nothing.
Except that we saw them get "Imho" hustled off the ball on many ocassions by experienced defenders. If you think differently, then in your own words...You're a Shmuck!
SP is about as "Tactically Aware" as Thorn was...
Finally Read all that I've written son...I said Diamond is a very good formation, when you have the players competent enough to play it. Atm we don't, and haven't since Leon Clarke had to have his operation.
As an afterthought, why did SP play 4-4-2 after taking the kids off in those two games? Could it have been he "Royally Fooked up" playing them on their own and tried to make up for it by trying to get a draw out of those games?
PS....what makes your copy and paste, better than mine???.....which part of Wembley were you in??? Oh sorry, the only thing you were in was your grandad's ball bag!!!:wave:
Cloughie's definition was totally different to yours. You chose the Americanism. Cloughie quotes the original.
You say......You're still ignoring the questions I pose: do you think playing 2 inexperienced players or not. Simple yes or no answer so cut the BS.
I say....You are the one who hasn't answered my point...I didn't pick the team SP did. I would never have played 2 inexperienced players up front together.
I would however have played either McDonald alongside Wilson, or Philliskirk. Maybe even McSheff with one of the youngsters.
So you cut the BS. This I would have done at the expense of Jennings or Bailey, who in my eyes have done diddly squat over the last 4-5 games. Too many players being played in midfield. Am I also to be impressed by you playing prop at rugby? Come back when you get paid for doing it...I might be vaguely impressed then.
Take your head out of your arse son, pin back your "lug holes" and listen.....To play an inexperienced kid on his own is suicidal, as was proved....Both Wilson and Philliskirk being taken off after 64 mins, and 70 mins, after both players getting smothered out of the game by clever defenders. Then what did SP do???
Sends on EXPERIENCED pro joint strikers...I asked why? for the last time you Shmuck, CCFC do NOT have players that are fit enough to play on their own up front...Has that sunk in to your fucking thick skull? as for your stupid reply about"Insinuating" playing 2 front runners....the senior pros would have talked the kids through the game better than leaving them to their own devices. You actually answer your own question when saying we're not scoring goals.
You say.....We've been creating the chances, but do not have a striker who has the clinical finishing ability Leon has - that's what we've missed, and that is an elephant in the room at the minute.
Doh!!! isn't that what I've been saying!!! You really are a bigheaded prat.
Football in Scotland btw, isn't, or wasn't when I played as shit as you are trying to make out it was/is. I made a good living out of football, both on and off the field. I played against some top teams in Div1/Prem in cup matches. I've never said or intoned that I was a Ronaldo, or Messi, but I'll tell you what...I played with and against some top pros in their time, and played in front of big crowds...Like I've said before, I've had my time, been there, done that, bought the "T" shirt"....Your time is still in front of you...wether you actually get there is another matter....I did, albeit to a certain standard.
Take your head out of your arse son, pin back your "lug holes" and listen..... To play an inexperienced kid on his own is suicidal, as was proved....Both Wilson and Philliskirk being taken off after 64 mins, and 70 mins, after both players getting smothered out of the game by clever defenders. Then what did SP do???
Sends on EXPERIENCED pro joint strikers...I asked why? for the last time you Shmuck, CCFC do NOT have players that are fit enough to play on their own up front...Has that sunk in to your fecking thick skull? as for your stupid reply about"Insinuating" playing 2 front runners....the senior pros would have talked the kids through the game better than leaving them to their own devices. You actually answer your own question when saying we're not scoring goals.
You say.....We've been creating the chances, but do not have a striker who has the clinical finishing ability Leon has - that's what we've missed, and that is an elephant in the room at the minute.
Doh!!! isn't that what I've been saying!!! You really are a bigheaded prat.
Football in Scotland btw, isn't, or wasn't when I played as shit as you are trying to make out it was/is. I made a good living out of football, both on and off the field. I played against some top teams in Div1/Prem in cup matches. I've never said or intoned that I was a Ronaldo, or Messi, but I'll tell you what...I played with and against some top pros in their time, and played in front of big crowds...Like I've said before, I've had my time, been there, done that, bought the "T" shirt"....Your time is still in front of you...wether you actually get there is another matter....I did, albeit to a certain standard.
Another clear and concise answer from SBK.
Cloughie's definition is an outdate definition, and obvious it weren't what I was calling anyone, and the word schmuck is used to call someone a fool rather than a penis, even Jews use it for hat purpose.
Answered your point? You've just been rambling about 1 upfront! I've asked what the alternative and I got more rambling and asking if playing an inexperienced player (who is 20, so should be pushing to start) upfront was beneficial? To which I answered, if they're good enough, there old enough, in simpleton terms, it's a moot point, if he's good enough age is irrelevant, also, he would've learned from the experience. To propose Cody and Wilson or Philliskirk would've changed our fortunes is laughable really, based on no evidence, you also miss out that Wilson has started 2 games, Philliskirk 1, Ball 2, Cody 3 games, between them, only managing 2 goals. Are you insinuating that with a combination of Ball/Wilson/Philliskirk/Cody would've changed anything? Based on what exactly?
We've been creating the chances, but do not have a striker who has the clinical finishing ability Leon has - that's what we've missed, and that is an elephant in the room at the minute.
SP said he'd experiment, he's done exactly that with the midfield and strikers.
Why would anyone be impressed that someone is a prop in rugby? I was describing that I was put in the 'deep end', only being legally able to play adults rugby in the 'row since 18, and prop is the equivalent of GK in football, the older ones have the know how that is indispensable. If I were you, I'd get off the that high horse, the level you played football at was poor (Scottish lower divisions, effectively non-league semi-pros) and about the same level as Broadstreet RFC and I have at least 20 years of rugby left in me so who knows what the future holds.
Max Clayton is a great of example of this, not! He's 17 and he had a season in L2 when he was 16, he could hack it because he's good enough. There's just no evidence to support your claims, how's getting taken off a bad thing? It's tactical or they just didn't play well, probably because they aren't good enough, which isn't a reflection on Pressley as a manager. Welbeck played upfront on when he was about 20, he's turned out well, so did Hernandez, they've both played on their own as 'young and inexperienced' players, but I guess Ferguson is a stupid twat of a manager! :facepalm:
SP brought Cody on in an attempt to change the game he's hardly experienced, he's not playing because he doesn't suit the system we play, but more importantly, just hasn't showed his worth, and is certainly nowhere near good enough to change the system which has hd success this season to accommodate him.
You say we don't have the strikers to play 4-5-1, but we don't have the strikers to play 4-4-2 either, I'd only consider playing 4-4-2 if we had 2 quality strikers, we don't have that, and actually, when we've played 4-4-2 we haven't played well, we don't have the team, nor the style to play 4-4-2, I think that's the general consensus at the minute.
Quote where you have said all we're missing is Leon Clarke? If you have, you've quite clearly contradicted yourself, as you've said the system SP plays is failing, but if that's all we're missing, that clearly can't be the case. Also, if we don't have a good enough striker to play 1 upfront, how can you post that if we play 2 upfront, it'll be all better? Last time I checked, 2 shit strikers don't make a good partnership.
Oh also, we have lots of quality on the bench in midfield we have: Moussa, Fleck, Barton, Bailey, Jennings, Thomas and Daniels all for CM, all bar Daniels are quality (albeit what has happened to Bailey and Jennings this year), how can you justify playing 4-4-2 when we're short on strikers, to play a formation with less CMs, when we've got good quality CMs? 4-5-1 is he logical formation for us, and the ONLY formation to have worked for us this season, now, I'm not saying we should never, ever play 4-4-2 under no circumstances, but 4-5-1 is the most suitable formation, and I for one am glad, in fact, relieved that SP has come out and said he won't compromise on the philosophy here, that's what Martinez started at Swansea, when he left, they carried on with his model and look at them now, that's the model CCFC should take, we ought to build a footballing culture at CCFC, and I think SP will do it, he needs time and resources.
I'm one of Elliott's biggest critiques, but, I'd have him 10/10 over any of Cody, Ball, Wilson or Philliskirk.
Hate to interupt you 2 but you said earlier you knew it meant penus
You really are "One thick feck" aren't you!!!
That is your quote, not mine!...Clarke is the only striker on CCFC books, that can play on his own, and even when fit struggles at times, ie- playing against big defenders in the air.
Playing 2 strikers doubles your chances of scoring, I never said we definately would score. You need to grow up son. To answer the last highlighted section of yours....
You seriously have had a bad head trauma in those scrums son, if you think that is "Lots of quality"
A few posters on here have said you need to live a bit more..not saying you haven't got valid points to make, just don't try forcing your opinions on others. Which is what you do.:facepalm:
I apologise for being against the flow but I like the presenters on CWR. You basically have 3. Geoff who loves ice hockey. Clive who loves cricket and Stuart who I believe is head of sport, and therefore has been lumped with us and footie. I think Stuart always come over as more of a neutral than most presenters around the country. It is only natural that through the demise of our club we have all been looking for scapegoats. The board, the team, the manager, the radio, the TV, Jim the gateman with the bad leg, Beryl the tealady et al.
CWR is broadcast to a fair number of people with a wide age range. We, on here, ontheotherhand are mainly male from 20+. The majority, on here, are half empty kind of people who get more pleasure out of negativity than positivity, so I think our listenership does not hold the majority of listeners. I know many people of all ages who love Stuart and I think he has done a remarkable job over the past number of years coming in for alot of abuse.
There is an old saying that if you don't like what a person is doing, do it yourself. I would bet the majority would crumble. Most of you I would switch off but I would love to hear Otis doing the show.
Isn't the max clayton example a little flawed. Crewes academy system and structures to between academy and their first team have been embedded over 25 years, they have been playing the same football principles at all levels. Their players know their jobs inside out so can slip into them. SP has said that this is what we wants to replicate, so players can move between levels much easier.
Wilson for example has come through our academy playing up top with Jeffers in a 442, we're now asking him to play the lone role.
Max clayton is a good young player but he hasn't been asked to play a role he's not familiar with.
@ Nick...
My main teams were....Coventry Sporting Club.(Icluding the FA cup games at HR and playing against Wolves including Steve Kindon"Second £1m player in England", Dave Wagstaffe, Kenny Hibbit, Phil Parkes...Estimated at £2m of talent playing at Kirby Corner that day.Final score...3-3. and Kindon didn't score!) Ayr utd, Montrose, and a brief spell at Raith Rovers(Retired with knee injury after 6 games.)
No, the Max Clayton example was to refute the claim that playing an inexperienced player on his own is suicidal, obviously, it isn't, as I firmly believe, 'if you're good enough, you're old enough', and if Wilson or Philliskirk at 20 can't hack meaningless L1 games, then, I'm sorry, but they just aren't good enough.
Answer this Stupot, would you play 2 strikers (but both being below average quality) thereby sacrificing quality and quantity (which would help in defence as well as attack, when passing), to accommodate this? Especially when Jennings and Bailey haven't been good enough lately (but they are good players) so that should rule them out, and Fleck is a sure starter (rightfully) under SP, so that leaves Fleck and? Moussa, Barton or Thomas? Do them 3 offer the balanced CM for a 4-4-2? Would it benefit the team as a whole? No.
But being honest here, I don't want neutral where any of his stances seem to be the 'right' side of neutral. It would be great to have a partisan journalist, a real fan who may be able to tell it as it is but can at least empathise with the masses.
While I'm on a roll, what was all this 'March to the Arch' crap for? Why 'Elvis'? Enthusiasm chanelled in the wrong place?
Scratching beneath the surface he is probably Coventry City through and through. But come on Mr Linnell, show some mettle and ask a few probing, journalistic questions when you have the chance. The other presenters on the CWR interactive need to man up and stop asking insipid questions.
No, the Max Clayton example was to refute the claim that playing an inexperienced player on his own is suicidal, obviously, it isn't, as I firmly believe, 'if you're good enough, you're old enough', and if Wilson or Philliskirk at 20 can't hack meaningless L1 games, then, I'm sorry, but they just aren't good enough.
Answer this Stupot, would you play 2 strikers (but both being below average quality) thereby sacrificing quality and quantity (which would help in defence as well as attack, when passing), to accommodate this? Especially when Jennings and Bailey haven't been good enough lately (but they are good players) so that should rule them out, and Fleck is a sure starter (rightfully) under SP, so that leaves Fleck and? Moussa, Barton or Thomas? Do them 3 offer the balanced CM for a 4-4-2? Would it benefit the team as a whole? No.
All arguments you have fall down with your ludricous stance on fleck.
Fleck in midfield is an oppositions dream. Put Barton in the same midfield and its party time.
Would be interesting to see win ratio with and without fleck in the team.
Unbelievable
For YEARS this guy has said it is crazy for anyone to be given a contract for less than 3 years.
ALL OF A SUDDEN - he would NEVER give anyone a 3 1/2 year contract! UTTER JOKE
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