Transfer Rumour Summer 2024 (3 Viewers)

[shmmeee]

Also I’m not convinced by this splashing £4m+ on players. I don’t think we’ve done significantly better than when we were buying £1m players so I’d restrict the scouting team and get them to focus on bargains again not £8m strikers and £5m L1 players. More Torps and Sakas.

 

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[alexccfc99]

Presuming we’re staying in the Championship next season we need to still do a lot of work with this squad to enable it to compete at the top.

Goalkeepers:

Out: Wilson, Moore

In: Need to spend some decent money on a top keeper. It makes a huge difference. Need to find the next Kieran Westwood and the impact he made when we signed him. Johansson at Rotherham probably going to a Euro side in the summer but would happily take him:

Defenders:

Out: Binks, Jay Dasilva

In: probably two at the LB/LWB position. A younger Jake Bidwell type and a proper LWB option.

Also, we need someone more experienced than Thomas and a Fadz replacement. Likely to pair with Kitching.

Midfield:

Out: Sheaf. Controversial but not ever getting a full season is causing us issues. Also summer would be the time to get maximum value from him and continue the reinvestment.

CoH won’t be here so that is a decision that will be made by him.

Palmer: An enigma and isn’t the future. Move him off our wage bill.

Kelly: Writing is on the wall

In: The next Sheaf, the next CoH, some more cover in the DM and attacking mid position. Also look at another right sided winger.Left will be covered by Mas

Strikers

Out: Godden and Taveres. One isn’t at this level anymore and the later isn’t going to be at this level.

In: We need 2 strikers in, one being at a level they’re regularly scoring goals and the other an upcoming younger talent.

All in all a very busy summer.

I would be more than happy for a new No. 1 to come in but think it is a case of get to the back of the queue for Johansen - Top goalie and zero chance he stays at Rotherham in L1

I also would not be surprised to see the club cash in on Sheaf either

 

[Winny the Bish]

A name to keep an eye on: Mathias Kvistgaarden.

 

[Darth Robins]

A name to keep an eye on: Mathias Kvistgaarden.

Imagine this place after his first misplaced pass, kvetching about Kvistgaarden.

 

[wingy]

€5M Brondby!

 

[Ccfcisparks]

A name to keep an eye on: Mathias Kvistgaarden.

Heard something?

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

If Johansson is so good then why has he been at Rotherham for 3 and a half years?

 

[mmttww]

Can’t go into next season with one striker and one RB or frankly shit keepers

Think you're being a bit OTT on a couple of things. Collins isn't sh*t, and Latibeaudiere, Eccles and Burroughs can cover RB or RWB if we need them. Don't think it's realistic to expect two players of MvE's calibre in that position.

 

[wingy]

Also I’m not convinced by this splashing £4m+ on players. I don’t think we’ve done significantly better than when we were buying £1m players so I’d restrict the scouting team and get them to focus on bargains again not £8m strikers and £5m L1 players. More Torps and Sakas.

A £1M transaction is a £500K in old money from last year?

 

[Gibbo]

Each year many (including me) produce lists of 6-8 playing positions highlighting all the gaps. Then, last summer excepted, we have added a couple maybe and a loan or two, but still continued upward in the League.

Better to think in terms of the absolute top priorities, and they are where we are weak as defined by being substandard in our best 1st eleven.

Assume EMC, Wright and Simms all play, as given the money spent on them it would be mad if they weren't. Also O'Hare goes

I come up with something like this. Other opinions are available

Collins
MVE - Kitching - Thomas - Bidwell
Sheaf - Torp - EMC
Saka - Simms - Wright

Squad: Wilson, Burroughs, Da Silva, Lati, Eccles, Palmer. Everybody else is substandard - Kelly, Godden, Tavares, Howley etc

What shouts is 1. A goalkeeper who commands his area and has quicker distribution 2. A left back as solid as Bidwell in defence but better at going forward. 3. Cover at centre-back (this could be a loan). 4. An alternative to Simms (again possibly a loan).

King has to get his head around how useful loans can be - we ended up acquiring Sheaf, O'Hare and Vik. McNally and Doyle were a major part of last season's run

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Each year many (including me) produce lists of 6-8 playing positions highlighting all the gaps. Then, last summer excepted, we have added a couple maybe and a loan or two, but still continued upward in the League.

Better to think in terms of the absolute top priorities, and they are where we are weak as defined by being substandard in our best 1st eleven.

Assume EMC, Wright and Simms all play, as given the money spent on them it would be mad if they weren't. Also O'Hare goes

I come up with something like this. Other opinions are available

Collins
MVE - Kitching - Thomas - Bidwell
Sheaf - Torp - EMC
Saka - Simms - Wright

Squad: Wilson, Burroughs, Da Silva, Lati, Eccles, Palmer. Everybody else is substandard - Kelly, Godden, Tavares, Howley etc

What shouts is 1. A goalkeeper who commands his area and has quicker distribution 2. A left back as solid as Bidwell in defence but better at going forward. 3. Cover at centre-back (this could be a loan). 4. An alternative to Simms (again possibly a loan).

King has to get his head around how useful loans can be - we ended up acquiring Sheaf, O'Hare and Vik. McNally and Doyle were a major part of last season's run

There is no chance EMC plays in centre midfield.

To me we just need more depth:
Keeper to replace Wilson
Da Silva out for a good starting LB
Lati can stay hes good as a bit part
Palmer out for someone who actually makes a difference
Back up CM
New Back up striker/starting striker

 

[shmmeee]

Think you're being a bit OTT on a couple of things. Collins isn't sh*t, and Latibeaudiere, Eccles and Burroughs can cover RB or RWB if we need them. Don't think it's realistic to expect two players of MvE's calibre in that position.

Im not. Eccles and Burroughs aren’t right backs, RWBs at best, but both are midfielders. Lats covers everywhere. There’s a reason MvE Thomas and Lats have played so much this season and it’s that there’s three players for two spots. A cheap freebie or a young gamble there is fine for when MvE needs a rest.

Collins has been unable to consistently displace Wilson. We can do better IMO.

 

[mmttww]

A cheap freebie or a young gamble there is fine for when MvE needs a rest.

Collins has been unable to consistently displace Wilson. We can do better IMO.

If DK and MR think we've got enough cash to upgrade on Collins without compromising priorities (CB, CM, CAM, Fwd), fine. We can always theoretically do better, but that's true of everyone in the squad e.g. LB and LWB.

RE: the RB spot, I'd rather we get CB and CM filled-out with specialists so Latibeaudiere is RB cover unless we're massively in the sh*t with injuries in other positions. Feel like you're expecting us to spend more than we can / will is all.

 

[shmmeee]

If DK and MR think we've got enough cash to upgrade on Collins without compromising priorities (CB, CM, CAM, Fwd), fine. We can always theoretically do better, but that's true of everyone in the squad e.g. LB and LWB.

RE: the RB spot, I'd rather we get CB and CM filled-out with specialists so Latibeaudiere is RB cover unless we're massively in the sh*t with injuries in other positions. Feel like you're expecting us to spend more than we can / will is all.

I think we need 25/26 players over a season, that’s roughly what we use and we’re one of the lowest in the division. The arse end of that is Allen Tavares and the kids, the second tier needs to be good enough and specialised enough IMO. We have no cover for MvE or Torp or Simms or Saka or Collins really. O’Hare and Binks are off and IMO we need a better LB.

If we want to try in the cups and sustain a playoff push I think we need 8 players of quality in.

 

[mmttww]

I think we need 25/26 players over a season, that’s roughly what we use and we’re one of the lowest in the division. The arse end of that is Allen Tavares and the kids, the second tier needs to be good enough and specialised enough IMO. We have no cover for MvE or Torp or Simms or Saka or Collins really. O’Hare and Binks are off and IMO we need a better LB.

If we want to try in the cups and sustain a playoff push I think we need 8 players of quality in.

Sounds about right. I'd say Latibeaudiere is good enough to cover MvE, just not as good going fwd.

This is what I'm hoping for and expecting. If expectations get exceeded e.g. GK and LB upgrade, bonus!


Collins | Wilson

MvE | Latibeaudiere | Burroughs
Thomas | [New CB]
Kitching | [New CB]
Bidwell | Da Silva

Sheaf | Eccles
Torp | [New CM] | Howley
[New CAM] | Palmer | Allen

EMC | Sakamoto
Simms | [New CF] | Godden | Obikwu
Wright | Tavares | Andrews

 

[Deity]

Also I’m not convinced by this splashing £4m+ on players. I don’t think we’ve done significantly better than when we were buying £1m players so I’d restrict the scouting team and get them to focus on bargains again not £8m strikers and £5m L1 players. More Torps and Sakas.

I think we need a combination of both.

Players are available for £1m for a reason and normally it’s because they are inconsistent or unproven. You therefore increase the risk with them. If they are £1m because their contract is due expire then that is different.

Once we start paying above £3m is dramatically reduces the competition for the player, and the valuation implies a higher degree of potential or track record.

 

[shmmeee]

I think we need a combination of both.

Players are available for £1m for a reason and normally it’s because they are inconsistent or unproven. You therefore increase the risk with them. If they are £1m because their contract is due expire then that is different.

Once we start paying above £3m is dramatically reduces the competition for the player, and the valuation implies a higher degree of potential or track record.

Im just not sure we’ve got better value from: Wright, Simms, MvE, EMC (TBD), and Kitching as we have from Torp, Saka, Thomas, Dasilva, Lats, Collins

The former came in at over £20m plus add ons, the latter less than half that if we want depth I think we need to load up on the riskier signings for it.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Im just not sure we’ve got better value from: Wright, Simms, MvE, EMC (TBD), and Kitching as we have from Torp, Saka, Thomas, Dasilva, Lats, Collins

The former came in at over £20m plus add ons, the latter less than half that if we want depth I think we need to load up on the riskier signings for it.

Kitching has proven to be miles better signing than DaSilva and Lati who have both been extremely underwhelming imo.

 

[shmmeee]

Kitching has proven to be miles better signing than DaSilva and Lati who have both been extremely underwhelming imo.

And Saka is better than all of them. That’s why I’m saying in the round. Where have we got better value. In the summer if it’s a choice between 8-9 £1m type players and 2-3 £3M I know which I’d prefer.

 

[shmmeee]

Also paying £5m for L1 players really sticks in my throat. We sold Maddison and Wilson for £3M

 

[Ccfcisparks]

And Saka is better than all of them. That’s why I’m saying in the round. Where have we got better value. In the summer if it’s a choice between 8-9 £1m type players and 2-3 £3M I know which I’d prefer.

if its 8 Da Silvas or 3 Kitchings i know which I would prefer.

 

[shmmeee]

if its 8 Da Silvas or 3 Kitchings i know which I would prefer.

What about 8 Sakas or 3 Simms?

 

[SBAndy]

Kitching has proven to be miles better signing than DaSilva and Lati who have both been extremely underwhelming imo.

Surprises me how below-par Latibeaudiere is on the ball for someone who came through Man City’s academy.

Also paying £5m for L1 players really sticks in my throat. We sold Maddison and Wilson for £3M

That was like 2015.

 

[Deity]

Also paying £5m for L1 players really sticks in my throat. We sold Maddison and Wilson for £3M

That’s was 8 years ago.

Transfer fees have exploded since then ….. Championship clubs were not selling midfielders for £15m back then either.

 

[shmmeee]

That’s was 8 years ago.

Transfer fees have exploded since then ….. Championship clubs were not selling midfielders for £15m back then either.

Oh I know. Just sad we sell all ours at yesterdays prices and buy at todays. But still not convinced the value is there compared to Europe/PL castoffs

 

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

Collins | Wilson
MvE | Burroughs
Thomas | Lati
Kitching | new CB
Bidwell | Dasilva
Sheaf | Eccles
Torp | new CM
Sakamoto | new RW
new CAM | Palmer
Wright | EMC
Simms | new ST

Thats 3 additions, and 2 players per position, potentially could bring in another CB and have Lati as a flexible player and maybe get another who can do multiple positions as well. Then I’d check the loan markets to see if there’s any quality players available that we wouldnt be able to otherwise get ahold of.

In terms of who I’d like to see come in
CB - Binks (however its unlikely, so maybe Charlie Cresswell)
CM - Armin Gigovic, Swedish number 8 playing for Midtjylland could be a good understudy to Torp
RW - Tyrhys Dolan
CAM - Ianis Haji
ST - Ricky-Jade Jones

 

[Deity]

The most intriguing part of the Wilson situation was that he wasn’t that highly regarded by City for a long time. In fact a deal had been agreed for him to be sold to Tamworth for a nominal fee. He then broke his foot and the deal fell through.

Fast forward a few months, Wilson has recovered, Cov are skint and have an injury crisis and have no choice but to play him. ….. he did well and never looked back …. The rest as they say is history !

 

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

Has anyone seen much of Obikwu, he looked good in preseason, know if he’ll make the mark?

 

[Winny the Bish]

Has anyone seen much of Obikwu, he looked good in preseason, know if he’ll make the mark?

Unlikely imo.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Collins | Wilson
MvE | Burroughs
Thomas | Lati
Kitching | new CB
Bidwell | Dasilva
Sheaf | Eccles
Torp | new CM
Sakamoto | new RW
new CAM | Palmer
Wright | EMC
Simms | new ST

Thats 3 additions, and 2 players per position, potentially could bring in another CB and have Lati as a flexible player and maybe get another who can do multiple positions as well. Then I’d check the loan markets to see if there’s any quality players available that we wouldnt be able to otherwise get ahold of.

In terms of who I’d like to see come in
CB - Binks (however its unlikely, so maybe Charlie Cresswell)
CM - Armin Gigovic, Swedish number 8 playing for Midtjylland could be a good understudy to Torp
RW - Tyrhys Dolan
CAM - Ianis Haji
ST - Ricky-Jade Jones

Yes Ricky-Jade jones, just what we need, another striker who can't score.

 

[shmmeee]

Yes Ricky-Jade jones, just what we need, another striker who can't score.

A rich man’s Tavares from what I saw.

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

Also paying £5m for L1 players really sticks in my throat. We sold Maddison and Wilson for £3M

That’s was 8 years ago.

Transfer fees have exploded since then ….. Championship clubs were not selling midfielders for £15m back then either.

Not forgetting that was under SISU.

And with add-on's the club have got more than 3m for Maddison.

 

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

Yes Ricky-Jade jones, just what we need, another striker who can't score.

8 goals and 4 assists this season, 21 years old, can play across the front line and in CAM

 

[Cally Fedora]

Summer 24 will possibly see Kelly, Godden Allen leave. I don’t think we need a keeper. If you secure Binks you have 4 CH’s. I’d like us to sign a lb if Bidwell goes. Two mf using Kelly and Allen wages. Then just a cf to replace Godden as we already have emc in addition to what we’ve got. If there’s any left a left sided mf.

 

[long way home]

I cant see Bidwell and Dasilva being our only options on the left. 1 goes and 1 is brought in that is a position we need to strengthen and i believe can.