Match Thread Sunderland - Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 9th Nov (17 Viewers)

[shmmeee]

I'm sure you will be boycotting again soon then. I was still there every week in League 2 to be able to talk about the tactics what was going on on the pitch.

Course my opinion is moot because you are busy losing your mind about iPads and tracksuits.

No your opinion is moot cos you post whatever the opposite of what everyone else is saying like diet Grendel. Meanwhile in the real world up until King arrived we were generally recognised as having one of the best setups in the pyramid.

 

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[SBT]

King arrived before the playoff final.

Sorry it’s the internet if you’re doing a bit can you post an emoji at the end or something. Genuinely not sure if you don’t grasp the point being made or are doing a Nick impression.

What’s the point you’re making? That a coaching staff consisting of Mark Robins, Adi Viveash and Dennis Lawrence was a generational powerhouse that could never be bettered and would have inevitably delivered promotion?

 

[Evo1883]

What’s the point you’re making? That a coaching staff consisting of Mark Robins, Adi Viveash and Dennis Lawrence was a generational powerhouse that could never be bettered and would have inevitably delivered promotion?

Well the evidence does suggest that under that trio , promotion was a possibility at some point .

But we will ofcourse never know

 

[covcity4life]

Nick you’ve been talking shite on him since L2. Your opinion is moot.

Doug started changing things last season, not last summer.

We been shit since Palmer left yet his haters don't wanna mention that

Lots of factors led to this dismissal

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

That’s fair enough, give yourself some time, you’ll get it back again I’m sure!

Thanks, even this year I've looked forward to the games even on a losing streak, just want todays game out of the way and see what happens next week

 

[Nick]

No your opinion is moot cos you post whatever the opposite of what everyone else is saying like diet Grendel. Meanwhile in the real world up until King arrived we were generally recognised as having one of the best setups in the pyramid.

Or I just post what I'm seeing at games. Yeah in league 2 when we were drawing at home to forest green with 2 DMS and 1 striker in last half an hour I did point it out.

Literally nobody said we had the best setup in the pyramid, I'm not sure what real world that was from.

 

[covcity4life]

No your opinion is moot cos you post whatever the opposite of what everyone else is saying like diet Grendel. Meanwhile in the real world up until King arrived we were generally recognised as having one of the best setups in the pyramid.

No we wernt?

Just known as having a long serving manager

Robins papered over the cracks for sisu

 

[David O'Day]

Or I just post what I'm seeing at games. Yeah in league 2 when we were drawing at home to forest green with 2 DMS and 1 striker in last half an hour I did point it out.

Literally nobody said we had the best setup in the pyramid, I'm not sure what real world that was from.

Just ban the twat until he finally works out ow to pay for his season ticket

 

[robbiekeane]

Structures are useful for instilling a base level of competence in an organisation with the drawback of restricting top tier talent. They try and codify mediocrity so those below the level are dragged up, but they also stop exceptional people breaking the mould.

Structures are for when you’re shit and want to be average. But they’re a means to an end. If you’re already at the end there’s no need for a means. Keep doing what you’re doing. You’ve exceeded the structure.

i’ve heard some shite in my time but this really takes the biscuit

absolute waffle

 

[David O'Day]

Believing we had a good set up under sisu is sectioning behaviour

 

[shmmeee]

No we wernt?

Just known as having a long serving manager

Robins papered over the cracks for sisu

Amazing statement. For someone who knows so much about the game I’m astounded you don’t think Robins and what he’d done was held in high regard.

Honestly I think you’re outing yourself as a fundamentally unserious poster here. Wow. First saying we’ve never played well under him now claiming he was just some curiosity of management term and nothing to do with what he did.

I think it might be time to claim your cousin is posting again.

 

[SBT]

Well the evidence does suggest that under that trio , promotion was a possibility at some point .

But we will ofcourse never know

Well we don’t have a ton of evidence to go on. I personally think the playing staff and then the manager are what decides our fortunes more than anything. The amount of influence people are attributing to individual coaches seems crazy to me but I suppose we’ve got to blame someone.

 

[shmmeee]

i’ve heard some shite in my time but this really takes the biscuit

absolute waffle

Solid response I’m convinced.

 

[David O'Day]

Solid response I’m convinced.

You are a sociopath

 

[robbiekeane]

anyway, unfortunately what’s done is done and there’s no going back now is there. there’s no world in which mark robins comes back to this club unless it’s a few years down the line.

so we have to get behind the team, otherwise we are going to end up as toxic as that season sunderland got relegated to the championship and immediately got relegated to league one. we can’t become that.

 

[shmmeee]

Well we don’t have a ton of evidence to go on. I personally think the playing staff and then the manager are what decides our fortunes more than anything. The amount of influence people are attributing to individual coaches seems crazy to me but I suppose we’ve got to blame someone.

And the Performance Director of course. This isnt 1992!

 

[Nick]

Believing we had a good set up under sisu is sectioning behaviour

I do find it weird that people who boycotted because of them now think we had an amazing setup under them.

Bring back joy and Tim

 

[covcity4life]

Amazing statement. For someone who knows so much about the game I’m astounded you don’t think Robins and what he’d done was held in high regard.

Honestly I think you’re outing yourself as a fundamentally unserious poster here. Wow. First saying we’ve never played well under him now claiming he was just some curiosity of management term and nothing to do with what he did.

I think it might be time to claim your cousin is posting again.

I'm being serious now. You are embarrassing yourself and other posters see it too

The fact i just said robins papered over the cracks for an entire ownership structure shows just how much esteem I hold him in

And I never said we never played well under him. I cited league 1 as great play. And first season back in championship I always stood up for how we passed it around

Just haven't felt last 3 years was free flowing. Never doubted it's effectiveness though

 

[alexccfc99]

Which was a couple of years ago and even then he made some questionable decisions.

Bringing Palmer on to take him off again. Bringing dabo on etc.

I always say Wilson-Esbrand should have been brought on over Dabo! I’ll never understand why, Dabo was on the way out and was way past his best for us

I can understand Palmer, it was a wildcard we probably needed to play when Hamer went off injured

 

[Grendel]

And the Performance Director of course. This isnt 1992!

you hate women in authority - do you need to share?

 

[SBT]

Meanwhile in the real world up until King arrived we were generally recognised as having one of the best setups in the pyramid.

What?

 

[Evo1883]

I'm being serious now. You are embarrassing yourself and other posters see it too

The fact i just said robins papered over the cracks for an entire ownership structure shows just how much esteem I hold him in

And I never said we never played well under him. I cited league 1 as great play. And first season back in championship I always stood up for how we passed it around

Just haven't felt last 3 years was free flowing. Never doubted it's effectiveness though

So you think in the last 3 years we stumbled upon success ?

 

[covcity4life]

So you think in the last 3 years we stumbled upon success ?

Is that what I wrote?

I said I don't doubt the tactics effectiveness. Just wouldn't label it as free flowing. More solid efficient and allowing moments of magic

 

[theferret]

Anyway, today's game. Come on you Sky Blue bastards. 3 points would be beautiful. Fancy us a bit, which means nowt I know, but feeling it.

 

[shmmeee]

What?

I SAID PRIOR TO KING ARRIVING OUR COACHING AND RECRUITMENT SETUP WAS SEEN AS ONE OF THE BEST IN THE LEAGUE!

 

[Evo1883]

Is that what I wrote?

I said I don't doubt the tactics effectiveness. Just wouldn't label it as free flowing. More solid efficient and allowing moments of magic

It's vague and a bit strange , effective but shit ?

We never played Like Wimbledon so how did we play ?

 

[covcity4life]

Believing we had a good set up under sisu is sectioning behaviour

He's lost the plot. Took offence to me talking about the real world but he's I'm bizarre world right now. He is sisus biggest fan

 

[Nick]

I SAID PRIOR TO KING ARRIVING OUR COACHING AND RECRUITMENT SETUP WAS SEEN AS ONE OF THE BEST IN THE LEAGUE!

You didn't and it wasn't.

 

[covcity4life]

It's vague and a bit strange , effective but shit ?

We never played Like Wimbledon so how did we play ?

Where have I said we were shit? I said I wouldn't label it as free flowing. Is there need for hyperbole?

 

[shmmeee]

He's lost the plot. Took offence to me talking about the real world but he's I'm bizarre world right now. He is sisus biggest fan

No game on Sky you should be watching? Don’t want to lose your status as the world most knowledgable fan.

 

[Evo1883]

Where have I said we were shit? I said I wouldn't label it as free flowing. Is there need for hyperbole?

No but you could atleast explain how we played .. rather than say " moments "

 

[covcity4life]

No game on Sky you should be watching? Don’t want to lose your status as the world most knowledgable fan.

Solid response I’m convinced.

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

Me too, to coin a phrase. In the situation we're in now, it feels like a nothing game.

Sacking Robins without having anyone lined up, especially just before an international break, doesn't exactly shout "football genius", does it...

Not if it's Lee Carsley, make the announcement after the international break.

 

[robbiekeane]

Solid response I’m convinced.

i’m just not sure this is the time or the place for your romanticised anarchic anti-structure non-conformist ramblings

 

[shmmeee]

Solid response I’m convinced.

Im trying to mock you not convince you.

You’re upset because Championship Coventry City weren’t winning every game 10-0 playing like a mix of Total Football Holland and 1970s Brazil and you expect other people to take you seriously?