Supporters forum - 5pm Thursday 20th July (2 Viewers)

[hill83]

we tell you this every time

It’ll be this bit that did it mate

 

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[MalcSB]

oh change the subject because you are in the wrong

I can tell you for a fact there are no issues with the design of the stadium or that no work would needed to be undertaken to allow the stadium to have city fans in all four stands. That is confirmed from someone involved with the SAG and the councils sign off of it.

All I said was what has changed and you had a hissy fit

This has reminded me that one of the design features mentioned previously was the roller shutter doors which split the concourse. Having looked back, these are included in the list of dilapidations prepared during the Wasps administration process.

 

[David O'Day]

It’ll be this bit that did it mate

it's true though

 

[David O'Day]

This has reminded ma that one of the design features mentioned previously was the roller shutter doors which split the concourse. Having looked back, these are included in the list of dilapidations prepared during the Wasps administration process.

and that would of been a fair answer

Thank you

 

[hill83]

it's true though

Irrelevant. It’ll be that bit that did it. Say that to someone in real life and expect them to say something back.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

He has a point though doesnt he? He asked a valid question, you ignored it or didnt answer.

I didn’t it’s been answered before and I answered it again at which he pointed out what had been said before
When you go into discussions with that attitude don’t expect to build relationship or any kind of influence

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Irrelevant. It’ll be that bit that did it. Say that to someone in real life and expect them to say something back.

Normally I wouldn’t bite but it’s like a bloody merry go round
He won’t like what the safety certificate guy was saying about capacity and how it doesn’t matter how many seats you have it’s how many people you can get out in an emergency that dictates the capacity

 

[Saddlebrains]

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[David O'Day]

I didn’t it’s been answered before and I answered it again at which he pointed out what had been said before
When you go into discussions with that attitude don’t expect to build relationship or any kind of influence

It really hasn't been answered before though, at the last forum the club seemed to think there wasn't anyway to divide that concourse.

 

[David O'Day]

Normally I wouldn’t bite but it’s like a bloody merry go round
He won’t like what the safety certificate guy was saying about capacity and how it doesn’t matter how many seats you have it’s how many people you can get out in an emergency that dictates the capacity

The safety certificate is for the full capacity of the stadium, once again I can confirm that as a fact as I am friends who actually signs that off. If the club couldn't safely evacuate 32,000 people they wouldn't of been allowed to sell that many tickets for the Womens international.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

The safety certificate is for the full capacity of the stadium, once again I can confirm that as a fact as I am friends who actually signs that off. If the club couldn't safely evacuate 32,000 people they wouldn't of been allowed to sell that many tickets for the Womens international.

Me too and I spoke with him on Thursday
When were there that many in the ground for the womens internationals

 

[David O'Day]

Me too and I spoke with him on Thursday

The guy from the council who actually issues the safety certificate? If so tell him Dave says hi and what time we meeting in the pub?

 

[Grendel]

The guy from the council who actually issues the safety certificate? If so tell him Dave says hi and what time we meeting in the pub?

The way you’ve kicked off this morning I assume you are already in it

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

The guy from the council who actually issues the safety certificate? If so tell him Dave says hi and what time we meeting in the pub?

Martin Garvin and Andrew Walster

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

@David O'Day what does he say about why we don’t sell all tickets available

 

[Irish Sky Blue]

It does seem strange that a stadium built to hold 32k for men’s football matches can’t handle that capacity. I suppose it ultimately comes down to morons who think it’s okay to use football and our club for anti social and violent activities. It does seem that the problems with people attacking the Preston coaches a few years ago and with a few idiots at the Derby game more recently have put the kibosh on City fans being behind that goal for the foreseeable future.
I still think the segregation is over the top when you compare it to other grounds. I also don’t think I have heard that the save evacuation of people from that end is the issue causing the limiting of capacity being stated before, but I might have missed it?
Are their a lack of exits at that end? You would think in a real emergency the vehicle access doors in the corner would be opened.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

It does seem strange that a stadium built to hold 32k for men’s football matches can’t handle that capacity. I suppose it ultimately comes down to morons who think it’s okay to use football and our club for anti social and violent activities. It does seem that the problems with people attacking the Preston coaches a few years ago and with a few idiots at the Derby game more recently have put the kibosh on City fans being behind that goal for the foreseeable future.
I still think the segregation is over the top when you compare it to other grounds. I also don’t think I have heard that the save evacuation of people from that end is the issue causing the limiting of capacity being stated before, but I might have missed it?
Are their a lack of exits at that end? You would think in a real emergency the vehicle access doors in the corner would be opened.

Club and council very very concerned about backs of blocks singers corner hence safe standing

 

[David O'Day]

@David O'Day what does he say about why we don’t sell all tickets available

Segregation which is a different matter to how many people a ground is safely allowed to admit.

 

[hill83]

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[David O'Day]

It does seem strange that a stadium built to hold 32k for men’s football matches can’t handle that capacity. I suppose it ultimately comes down to morons who think it’s okay to use football and our club for anti social and violent activities. It does seem that the problems with people attacking the Preston coaches a few years ago and with a few idiots at the Derby game more recently have put the kibosh on City fans being behind that goal for the foreseeable future.
I still think the segregation is over the top when you compare it to other grounds. I also don’t think I have heard that the save evacuation of people from that end is the issue causing the limiting of capacity being stated before, but I might have missed it?
Are their a lack of exits at that end? You would think in a real emergency the vehicle access doors in the corner would be opened.

It can safely hold 32k, Pete is right when he says safety certificates are based on how many people can safely be evacuated from a stadium and you can safely get 32k out of the CBS in an emergency.

Segregation is a different matter but doesn't effect how many people can be evacuated

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Segregation which is a different matter to how many people a ground is safely allowed to admit.

Well that’s all part of the discussion

It was martin Garvin that talked about safe capacity now I’ve checked

 

[Levship20]

Club and council very very concerned about backs of blocks singers corner hence safe standing

Do we now know what our break even crowd figure is? At one time I was sure we needed 16000 through the gate before we started making a profit?

 

[MalcSB]

It can safely hold 32k, Pete is right when he says safety certificates are based on how many people can safely be evacuated from a stadium and you can safely get 32k out of the CBS in an emergency.

Segregation is a different matter

Which may come back to the “dilapidation” of the roller shutter doors - the estimated costs associated were £200k - assuming the segregation rollers are what is meant in the report. If that s the reason, I don’t understand why the club wouldn’t say so though.

 

[Irish Sky Blue]

Club and council very very concerned about backs of blocks singers corner hence safe standing

It would be good if the club through Boddy or the safety officer actually came out and gave the whole rationale for the limiting of capacity at that end of the ground. It does seem at the moment a bit piecemeal. If people can see the whole picture and the good reasons why decisions are made, the whole issue could be put to bed rather than have the frustration and annoyance as at the end of last season when we had a ground with thousands of empty seats and thousands of Coventry fans who wanted to buy them but weren’t allowed.

 

[David O'Day]

Well that’s all part of the discussion

It was martin Garvin that talked about safe capacity now I’ve checked

Yeah and the safe capacity as is 32k, segregation doesn't effect the ability to get people out in an emergency. If segregation barriers are blocking someone from the nearest and safest exit point them something has gone wrong.

 

[David O'Day]

Which may come back to the “dilapidation” of the roller shutter doors - the estimated costs associated were £200k - assuming the segregation rollers are what is meant in the report. If that s the reason, I don’t understand why the club wouldn’t say so though.

Yeah and I think that would be a fair answer but i'd then follow up by asking if the roller shutters are broken how did they work against boro?

 

[David O'Day]

It would be good if the club through Boddy or the safety officer actually came out and gave the whole rationale for the limiting of capacity at that end of the ground. It does seem at the moment a bit piecemeal. If people can see the whole picture and the good reasons why decisions are made, the whole issue could be put to bed rather than have the frustration and annoyance as at the end of last season when we had a ground with thousands of empty seats and thousands of Coventry fans who wanted to buy them but weren’t allowed.

This is the point, looking through the brief notes on here it seems they refuysed to answer someone's question on teh figures behind their justification for larger segregation

 

[David O'Day]

It would be good if the club through Boddy or the safety officer actually came out and gave the whole rationale for the limiting of capacity at that end of the ground. It does seem at the moment a bit piecemeal. If people can see the whole picture and the good reasons why decisions are made, the whole issue could be put to bed rather than have the frustration and annoyance as at the end of last season when we had a ground with thousands of empty seats and thousands of Coventry fans who wanted to buy them but weren’t allowed.

I really do think they need to explain the rationale when you can see scenes like this at games liek United vs Leeds where there is a real threat of trouble

 

[usskyblue]

It’s all a bit fucking bizarre Pete especially the semi final first leg, when our fans were segregated from.. *checks notes*

..our fuckinfans

Has a statement ever officially been made as to the reasoning behind segregation in that corner?

 

[Skybluedownunder]

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[David O'Day]

It’s all a bit fucking bizarre Pete especially the semi final first leg, when our fans were segregated from.. *checks notes*

..our fuckinfans

Has a statement ever officially been made as to the reasoning behind segregation in that corner?

That was weird, the excuse of they didn't want sideways movement from 15 and 14 to the away stand was nonse as it's easier to move through an empty block than a full one and there is a fence.

I do suspect peopel thought 13 is in the away stand

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

It can safely hold 32k, Pete is right when he says safety certificates are based on how many people can safely be evacuated from a stadium and you can safely get 32k out of the CBS in an emergency.

Segregation is a different matter but doesn't effect how many people can be evacuated

That’s interesting I may go back to Dave or even Andrew to clarify

The reason they’ve left the ends in that area is to limit the numbers in those specific blocks

Very concerned at an incident and significant injury

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Do we now know what our break even crowd figure is? At one time I was sure we needed 16000 through the gate before we started making a profit?

34500

 

[David O'Day]

David ain’t got a thrust in him… he’d be the taker


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Homophobic as well as c**t Skippy?

You'd be all over my onlyfans account of I had one

 

[Skybluedownunder]

Homophobic as well as c**t Skippy?

You'd be all over my onlyfans account of I had one

How is that homophobic you melt?

I’m saying you would definitely be a shit shag regardless of the gender. The question was shag or fight.

P.S I’m English


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