Match Thread Supporter's Meeting with Doug King Match Thread (15 Viewers)

[Deity]

As I say, I hope I'm wrong
I'd heard a while back that everything at the club revolves around Doug
No problem if it's a success, which hopefully it will be
Time will tell

That’s how CEO’s drive transformational change initially whilst in parallel putting in the team that can continue that more independently.

I think this is what we are seeing occurring.

 

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[nicksar]

That’s how CEO’s drive transformational change initially whilst in parallel putting in the team that can continue that more independently.

I think this is what we are seeing occurring.

I agree,and he actually said that on Monday evening.

 

[peteCCFC]

I hope I'm wrong but is there a chance we are going to be the Doug King show now?

We were the Sisu show before. We'll always be CCFC. He says he's going to appoint a director of football, so hopefully he'll only turn up for photoshoots from now on.

We're a better fanbase when we're all a bit agitated, it's been boring since it's all been nice and happy. Let's hope last weeks change can add the spark we needed.

 

[peteCCFC]

So just to be clear, you're saying the majority of the 25k in a stadium don't give two hoots about the current situation?

I think he's saying the 25000 people that attend are less likely to be as reactive as 25 internet heroes who probably don't see the light of day apart from when ubereats delivers their groceries.

 

[clint van damme]

As I say, I hope I'm wrong
I'd heard a while back that everything at the club revolves around Doug
No problem if it's a success, which hopefully it will be
Time will tell

You'll have his fanboys on your case, careful, theyre worse than Swifties.

 

[Skyblueweeman]

I think he's saying the 25000 people that attend are less likely to be as reactive as 25 internet heroes who probably don't see the light of day apart from when ubereats delivers their groceries.

I guess so.

However there’s an argument that those who’ve spent their hard earned money might be more interested on who’s leading the team they’re paying money to see.

 

[Grendel]

A loan which will need to be repaid.

No it doesn’t - Brentfords owner used a loan system and has never been repaid

 

[oldfiver]

No it doesn’t - Brentfords owner used a loan system and has never been repaid

It will probably depend on where DK got his funds from.

 

[Skyblueweeman]

No it doesn’t - Brentfords owner used a loan system and has never been repaid

And Chelsea didn't pay Ambramovic back either did they?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

So Andy turner has said he did have permission from the club for the interviews with adi

So dk wasn’t correct about that

 

[Nick]

So Andy turner has said he did have permission from the club for the interviews with adi

So dk wasn’t correct about that

Andy Turner knows AV had permission?

 

[Grendel]

So Andy turner has said he did have permission from the club for the interviews with adi

So dk wasn’t correct about that

Why - because Andy Turner says so - did the club vet the content before publication?

 

[shmmeee]

Andy Turner knows AV had permission?

I imagine he knows if Andy Turner had permission from the club.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Andy Turner knows AV had permission?

Nope he sought permission he thinks dk might be misremembering and not realising then3 stories came from the one interview which is plausible

 

[Deity]

Why - because Andy Turner says so - did the club vet the content before publication?

Clubs are not normally allowed to do that.

 

[SBT]

Remember thinking at the time that the interview was unusually detailed and candid, especially in the middle of a season. Wouldn’t be surprised if Viveash got permission to speak to Turner and then went way beyond what the club agreed or assumed he would discuss.

 

[SBT]

Clubs are not normally allowed to do that.

The CT would never agree to it, and clearly from reading the pieces the club had no involvement anyway.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Remember thinking at the time that the interview was unusually detailed and candid, especially in the middle of a season. Wouldn’t be surprised if Viveash got permission to speak to Turner and then went way beyond what the club agreed or assumed he would discuss.

Still can’t believe we’ve not heard anything due to the nda and statement from solicitor and then boom lol

 

[robbiethemole]

Surely DK has blown any NDA out of the water with his revelations on Monday?? If he's able to speak like that, aren't Mark and Adi allowed to reply without any jeopardy.

 

[skyblueelephant76]

Surely DK has blown any NDA out of the water with his revelations on Monday?? If he's able to speak like that, aren't Mark and Adi allowed to reply without any jeopardy.

You can have a unilateral NDA that only applies to one side.

 

[wingy]

No it doesn’t - Brentfords owner used a loan system and has never been repaid

Enough to wreck em if he left/demanded it back?

 

[blunted]

You can have a unilateral NDA that only applies to one side.

NDAs in recent years have been breached on numerous occasions even from employees who were working for top law firms and received considerable payoffs. Admittedly, the main one was related to a sexual harassment case, but there was also an element of bullying involved. There has never ever been a mention about NDAs from anyone involved, only speculation on social media. There was certainly ones in place when Richardson left, as he and the club said there were.
I find it troubling that one day King is the big bad wolf, the next he is red riding hood and Robins is the bad guy. Think it is more complex than that, and I believe it would be healthily paranoid not to take everything King has said at face value. He is presenting his opinions on events that led up to the sackings. Maybe Adi and Mark would see it slightly differently and will use the right to reply, but I wouldn't hold your breath. King is in the main saying he has no liability for the footballing events at the club, as Robins had all the power on the footballing side? May be the case, but I find that hard to believe where the owner is the Chairman and CEO, in fact the whole Board. I thought that flouted the UK Corporate Government Code. He does not come across as someone who leaves the footballing side completely alone.
My concerns are King speaks of transparency but it is like the whole of the staff and players have been issued with edicts not to talk about anything regarding the club except when their pronouncements have more than likely been vetted.
Robins has been honest with us for years and it is only this season he has alluded to having less power than in the past. This does not square with what King told us.
I'm in the party that says Robins without Adi is unfortunately not as good, but to say everything that is bad at the club on the footballing side is Robins fault is unfair.

 

[blunted]

There's no such thing as the real world. You are all a figment of my imagination

That is a really scary imagination.

 

[Grendel]

Still can’t believe we’ve not heard anything due to the nda and statement from solicitor and then boom lol

What I cannot fathom is why you were so more trusting of Seppalla than King when Seppalla was an absolute disaster for the club

 

[Dhinsa's_Millions]

King appears to have been lying (misremembering would be generous) about the article.

An article which was used as the main backbone for the reason AV was sacked due to it being 'unauthorised.' He went into a lot of detail on this point.

Turner stated the press officer was present during the interview with AV so how can the interview be unauthorised?

 

[TewkesburySkyBlue]

That’s how CEO’s drive transformational change initially whilst in parallel putting in the team that can continue that more independently.

I think this is what we are seeing occurring.

That's a fine theory but some cant let go .

 

[DrPoolittle]

What I cannot fathom is why you were so more trusting of Seppalla than King when Seppalla was an absolute disaster for the club

Apart from overseeing two promotions, a cup win and signing Hamer, Gyokeres and COH, she did nothing for CCFC.

Not even an aqueduct

 

[Grendel]

Apart from overseeing two promotions, a cup win and signing Hamer, Gyokeres and COH, she did nothing for CCFC.

Not even an aqueduct

She had to ensure of course we reached our lowest league position for half a century first

 

[TomRad85]

Apart from overseeing two promotions, a cup win and signing Hamer, Gyokeres and COH, she did nothing for CCFC.

Not even an aqueduct

That's certainly a positive spin on getting us relegated to league 2. Fair play.

 

[fernandopartridge]

I think there is too much reading into the article itself being the reason rather than just being a by-product of a falling out

 

[Deity]

King appears to have been lying (misremembering would be generous) about the article.

An article which was used as the main backbone for the reason AV was sacked due to it being 'unauthorised.' He went into a lot of detail on this point.

Turner stated the press officer was present during the interview with AV so how can the interview be unauthorised?

Maybe it was not authorised by Robins, but it was by the club.

AV might have thought that OK, Robins might have thought that AV should have asked his permission too.

I rather suspect the article was the final straw in a strained relationship rather than the issue in itself. .

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

What I cannot fathom is why you were so more trusting of Seppalla than King when Seppalla was an absolute disaster for the club

Don’t think I am
And I only met her on the way back up
And it was a different club once robins and boddy were given free reign
That’s my issue with dk he doesn’t know football but let’s see

 

[Grendel]

Don’t think I am
And I only met her on the way back up
And it was a different club once robins and boddy were given free reign
That’s my issue with dk he doesn’t know football but let’s see

She stroked your ego and king won’t

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

Don’t think I am
And I only met her on the way back up
And it was a different club once robins and boddy were given free reign
That’s my issue with dk he doesn’t know football but let’s see

Doug King doesn't need to know about football that's why he employees Managers and Coaching staff.

He just needs to know how to run a business which CCFC is.

 

[colinc]

NDAs in recent years have been breached on numerous occasions even from employees who were working for top law firms and received considerable payoffs. Admittedly, the main one was related to a sexual harassment case, but there was also an element of bullying involved. There has never ever been a mention about NDAs from anyone involved, only speculation on social media. There was certainly ones in place when Richardson left, as he and the club said there were.
I find it troubling that one day King is the big bad wolf, the next he is red riding hood and Robins is the bad guy. Think it is more complex than that, and I believe it would be healthily paranoid not to take everything King has said at face value. He is presenting his opinions on events that led up to the sackings. Maybe Adi and Mark would see it slightly differently and will use the right to reply, but I wouldn't hold your breath. King is in the main saying he has no liability for the footballing events at the club, as Robins had all the power on the footballing side? May be the case, but I find that hard to believe where the owner is the Chairman and CEO, in fact the whole Board. I thought that flouted the UK Corporate Government Code. He does not come across as someone who leaves the footballing side completely alone.
My concerns are King speaks of transparency but it is like the whole of the staff and players have been issued with edicts not to talk about anything regarding the club except when their pronouncements have more than likely been vetted.
Robins has been honest with us for years and it is only this season he has alluded to having less power than in the past. This does not square with what King told us.
I'm in the party that says Robins without Adi is unfortunately not as good, but to say everything that is bad at the club on the footballing side is Robins fault is unfair.

If King had no involvement in the football side and it is all Robins' responsibility, then reaching the playoff final and last season's cup run (both of which are the reason for 20k plus season ticket holders) are nothing to do with King either.