dongonzalos
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An owner who is a fan of the club
A owner with financial plans to make them competitive in the championship
Possibly an owner he can trust
Double his wages
any one hear the huddersfield match commentator interviewed this morning on CWR ?. Even he was surprised.
He couldnt see on the face of it how Huddersfield were a better option based on the crowds we get and how we have been doing. Said HTFC couldnt even get 31k fans in their ground for a cup game and the JPT crowd showed the fan potential at CCFC. But he did point out that Huddersfield were financially secure and backed by an entrepeneur, money no problem. Recent history he felt gave CCFC a higher profile, but HTFC had a solid base and structure that CCFC does not appear to have. Hoped that at some point the directors of CCFC would make things clear (that will be a first !). Said that in reality the agents had been working on this prior to the formal approach so the deal was almost done when official approach made. Said he understood CCFC fans anger because what we know just didnt seem to make a lot of sense. Wanted to know the reasons why MR would jump ship - seemed to imply it wasnt just about money.
SISU had a plan to appoint Robins when AB was sacked but fans pressure led them to appoint Thorn.
They eventually appointed Robins but he choose to leave. Little an owner can do in those circumstances
If we appoint another manager who does well, we will lose them as well.
Robins wanted the release clause, precisely to give him options like this. You can't force people to sign contracts any more
SISU had a plan to appoint Robins when AB was sacked but fans pressure led them to appoint Thorn.
They eventually appointed Robins but he choose to leave. Little an owner can do in those circumstances
If we appoint another manager who does well, we will lose them as well.
Robins wanted the release clause, precisely to give him options like this. You can't force people to sign contracts any more
You are entitled to your opinion Steve but during our owners tenure:Yeah it's sisus fault the pope resigned and SISU were on goal for Crewe last week! Etc etc etc etc bore off!
An owner who is a fan of the club
A owner with financial plans to make them competitive in the championship
Possibly an owner he can trust
Double his wages
Go back and look at the press reporting and bookies records for the period post-AB. Robins was clearly reported as the man SISU wanted.
Then compare and contrast some of the fans comments - on the lines of "if SISU don't appoint Thorn, I am handing back my season ticket"
It was noteworthy at the time because I was surprised that there was such interest in Robins, when his record appeared unremarkable
You are entitled to your opinion Steve but during our owners tenure:
The debt has increased by about 50%
Successive managers have been appointed and failed badly
The club still doesn't own its ground
Anyone of any value leaves when tapped up almost immediately
We were relegated due to a severe cost cutting strategy at the worst possible time
Orange Ken in the dug out
Piss poor communication and cover ups all round
Rent unpaid
Etc Etc Etc !!
Totally agree that they are to blame for all that mate. But in this instance I think it's as black and white as Robins wanted to leave! What can SISU do about that? Chain him to the training gates?
So in all honesty it is your opinion because the bookies had him as one of the favourites.
Yet Andy Thorn did well as caretaker. SISU get to save money by employing him and you genuinely think they were forced into that move by the fans?
In all honesty, all the available evidence was that Robins was lined up. It was reported in the media and listed by the bookies. These confirm nothing but were strong indicators. Yet after strong fans protests, exercised in various public domains, Thorn was appointed.
When Thorn did relatively well, SISU tried to claim credit and were roundly criticised for doing so, from fans who insisted it was fans pressure that led to Thorn being given the job.
Again, well documented at the time and I was broadly sympathetic because Thorn had steered us clear from relegation,playing good football.
Robins was always the man SISU wanted and his subsequent appointment should have been no surprise to anyone who had watched events closely
You are entitled to your opinion Steve but during our owners tenure:
The debt has increased by about 50%
Successive managers have been appointed and failed badly
The club still doesn't own its ground
Anyone of any value leaves when tapped up almost immediately
We were relegated due to a severe cost cutting strategy at the worst possible time
Orange Ken in the dug out
Piss poor communication and cover ups all round
Rent unpaid
Etc Etc Etc !!
Its all the fans fault eh Tommy...........................must have been the 30,000 who showed up the other night as a demonstration of potential, or perhaps the 5000 to Spurs and MK Dons or the 8000 to Arsenal...........Those same fans that chose Thorn must have driven away MR and those same fans who have put their hands in their pockets all season also chose to have the club dragged through the courts by not paying the rent...........As someone else pointed out, we are seen as an easy target by almost all other clubs due to the well documented threats of administration, Liquidation, Ground sharing, points deductions etc etc !
Its all the fans fault eh Tommy...........................must have been the 30,000 who showed up the other night as a demonstration of potential, or perhaps the 5000 to Spurs and MK Dons or the 8000 to Arsenal...........Those same fans that chose Thorn must have driven away MR and those same fans who have put their hands in their pockets all season also chose to have the club dragged through the courts by not paying the rent...........As someone else pointed out, we are seen as an easy target by almost all other clubs due to the well documented threats of administration, Liquidation, Ground sharing, points deductions etc etc !
Not sure what your point is in all this. Not the fault of the fans or the Club. Robins wanted to leave.
Again, you can't see further than "it's all SISU what done it". And you never will.
This MR departure/discussion may well just be human ambition/greed but our owners have not improved conditions at the club in 6 years to enable us to fight off these advances.
In all honesty, all the available evidence was that Robins was lined up. It was reported in the media and listed by the bookies. These confirm nothing but were strong indicators. Yet after strong fans protests, exercised in various public domains, Thorn was appointed.
When Thorn did relatively well, SISU tried to claim credit and were roundly criticised for doing so, from fans who insisted it was fans pressure that led to Thorn being given the job.
Again, well documented at the time and I was broadly sympathetic because Thorn had steered us clear from relegation,playing good football.
Robins was always the man SISU wanted and his subsequent appointment should have been no surprise to anyone who had watched events closely
While SISU certainly have to take responsibility for failures over the last six years, previous boards have more to answer in my view. Why sell our ground? What happened to all the cash? Why negotiate an unsustainable rent?
On this we are in agreement completely !.........................I'm not sure about a net investment of £40 million though?
Which of course proves that most of the blame for our problems resides with Robinson and Richardson, not SISU
SISU and Ranson just didn't have the necessary resources to repair the damage, caused by years of financial extravagance beyond our means
Unfortunately, I'm not privvy to their strategies and plans for the Club. Wish I was.
You may not be privvy to info (who is?) but as someone who is not sisu-out what is your opinion/thoughts? I keep asking this cos I just cannot see what sisu can do next, especially with no access to even part ownership of the ricoh.
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