If the club gets relegated and then goes into liquidation, will any of the nay-saysers take satisfaction in saying "we told you so" to the optimists on here? If not (I hope not), then stop whining and get behind the team for one of the most exciting run-ins we've had in years!
Right, for clarity's sake...
1. I was referring to the games we've lost but had 'chances' in and therefore 'unlucky' to lose (as per some fans opinions)
2. This post, when read correctly will show that I'm looking for a soloition to stay up - not accepting relegation with a defeatist attitude.
I have no problem with the belief of all fans and I stand right beside you - but you can't just say "everything will be alright if we get behind the team" or "keep the faith". Sometimes more than a positive attitude is required. So I'm simply stating the facts and giving my 'opinion' on a soloition. Actions speak louder than... positive thoughts.
Fact 1: the team plays well one week and dog poo the next
Fact 2: if we play like we did against Barnsley, we would have to be very lucky to stay up
Fact 3: the manager is not getting the best out of the team
You can all sit there and have faith that this manager will get us out of trouble- its your 'opinion' - but hey... Don't forget, he's the one that led the team to that position.
Now, if you still think 1. the team is good enough to stay up and 2. We need to get behind them - I have just one question...
If you think the team is good enough to stay up, then surely that means SISU left Andy Thorn with a competitive side. Therefore, if we do go down - is it not his fault? Ie: if you believe that this team can stay up and we don't, the It's a management problem, because there was nothing wrong with the team?
we have been nailed down for relegation since August and now all of a sudden we are in with a real chance of staying up.
But of course, that's not good enough for some - haven't all the "changes" you mention i.e. predicatable knee jerk reactions, got us into this mess in the first place?
I want to support the team unconditionally and I expect the same of others. Grow up.
No we aren't.
No.
I understand you're keen to throw my little sneer back in my face, but you really shouldn't be saying "grow up" whilst simultaneously taking great pride in a closed mind.
So we're not in with a chance of staying up? How about that for a closed mind. Pathetic.
Can't understand this mentality.
Yes, we'd all rather be higher up the league but we are where we are, why not back the team during the crucial run-in?
Answer - because it's easier to sit on the sidelines being cynical and mocking loyal fans.
I've been to 12 games this season during which we've only gained 1 point in total, do you hear me moaning, no. I won't be writing us off any time soon, not until we are mathematically down. Shame on you for giving up and taking pride in that.
Self-help guff? Where did you pull that from???
History doesn't tell you everything, from your analysis we will never win another away match, ever, because of our recent record.
My own view of history is that chopping the manager and bringing a replacement hasn't produced long term benefits.
What the club needs now is unconditional support.
We are 1 measly result away from safety, and yet you think we have "no real chance of staying up" - why do to you take pleasure in waving the white flag before the real dog fight has even started?
Stay away then you're the reason were losing.
The season is based on 46 games, not 30-35 - it's where we are at the end of the season that counts.
We're in with a real shout
because effectively the season starts now - who cares what's gone before?
You're talking like we're down when the issue is far from settled.
I'd agree we're not hot favourites to stay up, but we have a real fighting chance
anyone can see that
It's results not performances that count
so the win over Barnsley was fine with me. I started this season expecting us to be dead and buried by now, but here we are fighting our corner still.
Frankly, I don't see AT as ineffective. He has a criminally poor squad with no resources, managing a club that has long punched well above its weight in this division. Even if we go down I;d give him a 3 year contract as manager. If we stay up, make it 5 years.
. Even if we go down I;d give him a 3 year contract as manager. If we stay up, make it 5 years.
SISU must love people like you, it lets them get away from investing and hiring a decent manager.
They must be laughing their heads off.
SISU must love people like you, it lets them get away from investing and hiring a decent manager.
They must be laughing their heads off.
Absurd. SickBoy, Sisu are cutting costs, that is their sole rationale. Meanwhile they also continue to pay off Coleman and Boothroyd.....while you would appoint "?" who would cost "?" who would be paid with"?" while demanding"?" a budget of £ "?" to sort this weak squad - a consequence of the aforementioned cost cutting.
You haven't begun to think this through, have you?
I wish I could share the optimism, I just hope that in 5 years we aren't looking back at this season and thinking we should have tried anything to avoid relegation to League 1.
Absurd. SickBoy, Sisu are cutting costs, that is their sole rationale. Meanwhile they also continue to pay off Coleman and Boothroyd.....while you would appoint "?" who would cost "?" who would be paid with"?" while demanding"?" a budget of £ "?" to sort this weak squad - a consequence of the aforementioned cost cutting.
You haven't begun to think this through, have you?
Ah, that old paradox. The squad that is supposedly so bad that it is relegation fodder, and yet supposedly has the ability to stay up. Which is it? You can't keep having it both ways. Either Thorn is doomed with a rubbish squad, or he is not making enough of their ability (which is sufficient to survive).
I still don't think some people are getting this bit you know?
- Teams not good enough to stay up but Thorn is doing the best he can = Good manager/Relegation
- Teams good enough to stay up but Thorn is doing a poor job based on results = Poor manager/Change required
You can't have both opinions - that's a contradiction and its dumb.
You can't believe we'll survive on one hand and then have your reason why we didn't pre-planned - otherwise you're no better than SISU. It's basically saying that you can see the problem, but you wont accept it's there. BURY... HEAD... SAND...
I feal that some poeple want us to go down
I'm for one going to remain positive because the thought of dropping another division is heartbreaking.
Play up Sky blues!!!
want to go down?...........what a stupid thing to say
the squad is good enough to stay up,we just beat a playoff chasing team and a mid table team
if we go down its due to bad management
It makes you wonder if some of them have deliberately stuck up for Thorn, especially when results have been going bad as they have had a personal agenda.
we will more than likely go down.
In your opinion.
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