Ripped to shreds that Adebajo gave JCS nightmares...He gave him too much space first half. 2nd half did much better but game was over by then.The left side was 4 out the 5 goals that really worries me tonight
You;re 100% right. When you're bossing a game having high wing backs is ok but we were exposed continually down our left flank and needed to convert to a 4 4 2 to protect it, but that requires conventional full backs.What has annoyed me about tonight is that if I (a football nobody) was managing Luton, I would have told them to hit the ball in behind our wing backs who look to push high. It basic as fuck yet has absolutely undone us!! Clarke- Salter and Maatsen were in no man's land for the first 20 mins. Lost McFadzean's trust and then he fluffs it by coming across to firefight.
It’s not like we just “lost” is it. People can take losing if it’s a contested game. That was an absolute annihilation. Odd that you expect people to be happy or not express how pissed off they are. It’s valid too, JCS has had a mare, but Robins surely should’ve changed things.This place is crap after we lose.
Pretty crap anywhere when we lose.This place is crap after we lose.
Sorry, but wingbacks have to defend too, thr 4th goal Maatsens does not track his man. Thats not good enough.There is nothing wrong with wing backs being high up the pitch, that's the whole point of them.
It's down to the centre back on that side to cover the long ball.
Hyam manages it perfectly fine. JCS.... less so.
You;re 100% right. When you're bossing a game having high wing backs is ok but we were exposed continually down our left flank and needed to convert to a 4 4 2 to protect it, but that requires conventional full backs.
Sorry, but wingbacks have to defend too, thr 4th goal Maatsens does not track his man. Thats not good enough.
Its easy to point at JCS and say that Hyam manages it, but Kane was constantly tracking back and helping defend, so Hyam was nowhere near as exposed as JCS. JCS was poor though
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Sheaf will be doing that his entire careerThey obviously targeted our left side, where our inexperience clearly showed, Maatsen had a fucking nightmare, consistently leaving JCS exposed, who was out muscled and embarrassed on more that a few occasions.
However, the Pen was outside the box, and there was a hint of offside for the second, and Sheaf needs a kick in the bollocks for getting caught in possession for the fifth, if the last goal was the winner in a 1-0 defeat, Sheaf would be getting pelters on here.
Honestly the guy who picked his pocket was sat in the back of the stand when Fadz passed to him!
Anyway, time to draw a line under that game and move forward to saturday, time for the fans to lift the boys and be the twelfth man !
Sheaf will be doing that his entire career
They put a high press on us from the very start,not allowing us to settle. It was not only a high press but a very aggressive one. They had done their homework and carried out a great game plan.
We will have learned a lot about ourselves last night, and you can bet Mark and Adi will have missed nothing.
It will be put right on the training ground. So let’s not panic, let’s wait and see how we cope next time. And there WILL be a next time.
Can JCS play LWB (I ask because I don’t know). He made a couple of half decent runs last night- maybe Rose in CB and JCS LWB?Still think it’s absolutely mad that we didn’t bring in a second LWB. Maatsen is only a kid and there is no-one there to cover for him when he’s having a rough patch, or that we can bring in for games he’s not suited to. I know Kane can supposedly play there but we really should have tried to bring in someone who plays there natural and has a bit of experience. Left side was appalling tonight.
He won’t be here his entire careerAnd you will be doing this for his entire career?
The wingbacks have to get forward for this formation to work, especially chasing the game, but they need to get back and defend out of possession but that's exactly what Maatsen is doing - getting back. Kane has done the right thing too - Maatsen has gone forward and Kane is marking his man in a fullback position.Sorry, but wingbacks have to defend too, thr 4th goal Maatsens does not track his man. Thats not good enough.
Its easy to point at JCS and say that Hyam manages it, but Kane was constantly tracking back and helping defend, so Hyam was nowhere near as exposed as JCS. JCS was poor though
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The wingbacks have to get forward for this formation to work, especially chasing the game, but they need to get back and defend out of possession but that's exactly what Maatsen is doing - getting back. Kane has done the right thing too - Maatsen has gone forward and Kane is marking his man in a fullback position.
What should have happened is that the back 3 should all be 5 metres to the left. JCS should be way closer to the ball and in a position to stand his man up to avoid him driving at the box at full speed or getting an early cross in, Fadz should be in a position to cover JCS if he gets skinned and Hyam should be on the toes of their one central attacker.
If anything I thought Kane needed to be the one that got forward more last night, especially after the first couple of goals. Luton clearly targetted that side, so let Maatsen be the one that tucks in and protect that left side. The awful performance was less worrying for me than lack of adaptation to what was unfolding, we just kept doing the same thing all night.
Good analysis now I think back.The wingbacks have to get forward for this formation to work, especially chasing the game, but they need to get back and defend out of possession but that's exactly what Maatsen is doing - getting back. Kane has done the right thing too - Maatsen has gone forward and Kane is marking his man in a fullback position.
What should have happened is that the back 3 should all be 5 metres to the left. JCS should be way closer to the ball and in a position to stand his man up to avoid him driving at the box at full speed or getting an early cross in, Fadz should be in a position to cover JCS if he gets skinned and Hyam should be on the toes of their one central attacker.
If anything I thought Kane needed to be the one that got forward more last night, especially after the first couple of goals. Luton clearly targetted that side, so let Maatsen be the one that tucks in and protect that left side. The awful performance was less worrying for me than lack of adaptation to what was unfolding, we just kept doing the same thing all night.
I guess Robins thought that the players coming on offered different attributes to the players coming off. At that point I suppose nothing was going to alter the inevitable outcomeThe most annoying thing is that we didn't actually change the approach.
Yeah we made 3 subs but still tried to do the things that didn't work in the 5th minute.
The most annoying thing is that we didn't actually change the approach.
Yeah we made 3 subs but still tried to do the things that didn't work in the 5th minute.
I’m guessing he brought Gyok off so he was fresh for Saturday.I guess Robins thought that the players coming on offered different attributes to the players coming off. At that point I suppose nothing was going to alter the inevitable outcome
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