In the history of the game?! Maybe a little ott!!
In the history of the game?! Maybe a little ott!!
Even Adrian Durham, who has traditionally dismissed our club and city as insignificant, actually sympathised with our plight.Media on our side! I'm just trying to figure out if CCFC can use that to their advantage with the appointment of the new manager...
I can't get to a radio, will you let us know the gist of what he says?
Agreed! But he is a Wolves fan, i believe.Funny listening to this. Danny Kelly is more upset about the Robins departure than Andy Turner is. Defeatist attitude in this city.
Agreed! But he is a Wolves fan, i believe.
You might be thinking about Adam Dent there.
and Eakin is a Tranmere fan -even our own press are'nt with usYes, i am sure you are right, but i did not think that Mr Turner supported us..
I can't get to a radio, will you let us know the gist of what he says?
why else would he move, only two weeks ago he had sky blue blood !! After all there is only 1sky blue, USRobins is a greedy bastard.
Listen online?
Flicking between doing work for uni and looking at the site, don't really have the time to listen on-line.
Funny listening to this. Danny Kelly is more upset about the Robins departure than Andy Turner is. Defeatist attitude in this city.
Uh? The local hack refuses to jump up and down with false indignation and this somehow renders the whole city defeatist?
Anyone would think we are the first club to ever have their manager poached. Some people need to have a word with themselves.
Even Adrian Durham, who has traditionally dismissed our club and city as insignificant, actually sympathised with our plight.
And, although he said that Robins is a good manager, he could not justify why he left us to join Huddersfield, UNLESS IT WAS GREED..
Reverse that statement and you have it - minus the 'false' part.
Defeatist mindset right there.
You do not need to 'jump up and down with indignation' to be peeved that a manager has chosen to walk five months into a three year contract.
No it isn't. What do you want, more anger? Shall we all converge on Huddersfield and drag him back kicking and screaming? Being defeatist is taking the view that with his departure goes any chance of promotion this season.
I don't believe that, quite the opposite in fact, I believe we are still in there with a fair chance.
So let's just get on with the business of winning football games and appointing the new man as soon as possible rather than bleating about something we have no power to change.
My claim of defeatism was much more general than that. The dictionary definition of defeatism is 'demonstrating expectation or acceptance of failure'. Sums Coventry up to a tee.
A fair chance? The team has a nominal chance at best. That is not based on gut instinct, but the facts of history; the team would need to go on a very improbable run of success to make the playoffs.
To take and accept it without protest ... defeatism, wouldn't you say?
What sums Coventry up to a tee is how it coped during times of real strife - the Blitz for example, the very definition of refusing to be defeated.
Some people just love to have a go at this city. I, however, believe it is a great city and the people stoic and resilient, but that's because I refuse to have a defeatist attitude and wallow in self-pity.
Now then, if we're talking about defeatism, writing off our chances as 'nominal at best' reeks of it.
We have 14 games left. We need to amass something like 26-28 points to make the playoffs. In our last 14 games our tally was 27 points. Improbable? To simply repeat our points haul from the last 14 games. Really?
We have 14 games left. We need to amass something like 26-28 points to make the playoffs. In our last 14 games our tally was 27 points. Improbable? To simply repeat our points haul from the last 14 games. Really?
The Blitz that took place 72 years ago and didn't involve 99.99% of the people currently alive and from the city?
You continue to confuse criticism with weakness. It is plausible to criticise the city because people have love for it and wish for it to improve in any number of aspects. Keeping the chin up and the blinkers on is no way to progress.
Well, if you want to call it a defeatist analysis, then that's fine. But it is a rational analysis, not a character trait.
Really. I crunched the numbers a couple of weeks back (and posted them on this forum) and it was looking unlikely then - things have only gotten worse since.
You do not have an argument that stands up to any sort of scrutiny I'm afraid. What is your point? Your argument about this city's supposed propensity to 'defeatism' is its apparent lack of righteous indignation about the untimely departure of Mark Robins? Is that it?
All this against a backdrop of so called 'rational analysis' that suggests we have practically no hope of being promoted this season. The irony here is that yours is probably the most defeatist appraisal of our chances I have yet come across.
A classic case of somebody seeing something that isn't there. All this nonsense talk about defeatism which amounts to nothing more than an opinion based on half-baked observations and weak anecdotal evidence that has no factual basis.
Put simply, just another miserable old cynic trying far too hard to find fault with their home city.
It could just be that the general acceptance of most people to recent events is an example of the type of 'rational analysis' you run to when it suits. But that doesn't fit the with 'everything's shit' view of Coventry that many people seem determined to make happen.
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