Tavares (8 Viewers)

Briles · Jan 22, 2022

Sick of hearing the "Tavares needs a chance" bollocks.

Hes 21, about 8 stone wet through and because he's scored 4 against Solihull B team people want him in the first team. This isn't football manager, I get you want to bring through an unknown youngster who will tear up the championship because he got 2 goals and an assist against Barnsley reserves, but fact is, he isn't big enough. The coaches know when he's ready. "Worth bringing on for the last 20 mins surely"

Why?

higgs · Jan 22, 2022

Briles said:
Sick of hearing the "Tavares needs a chance" bollocks.

Hes 21, about 11 stone wet through and because he's scored 4 against Solihull B team people want him in the first team. This isn't football manager, I get you want to bring through an unknown youngster who will tear up the championship because he got 2 goals and an assist against Barnsley reserves, but fact is, he isn't big enough. The coaches know when he's ready. "Worth bringing on for the last 20 mins surely"

Why?

Has he Shagged ur missus?

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Briles · Jan 22, 2022

higgs said:
Has he Shagged ur missus?

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Wouldnt have the strength

Alex1987 · Jan 22, 2022

Briles said:
Sick of hearing the "Tavares needs a chance" bollocks.

Hes 21, about 11 stone wet through and because he's scored 4 against Solihull B team people want him in the first team. This isn't football manager, I get you want to bring through an unknown youngster who will tear up the championship because he got 2 goals and an assist against Barnsley reserves, but fact is, he isn't big enough. The coaches know when he's ready. "Worth bringing on for the last 20 mins surely"

Why?

Seems like he might be able to finish a chance of it fell to him in the box....don't think people are saying he should be leading the line away at fulham

rob9872 · Jan 22, 2022

Tbf sometimes you just need a chance. We're not going to win the FA cup and with a lot of games in Feb, can't afford Vik injured so it's the Southampton game I'd play him in. Be a great test and see if he's at the level with less risk. He's full of confidence and you never know.

stevefloyd · Jan 22, 2022

Can't really use him in the fa cup...I would think we need the extra revenue a cup run may bring

stupot07 · Jan 22, 2022

Briles said:
Sick of hearing the "Tavares needs a chance" bollocks.

Hes 21, about 11 stone wet through and because he's scored 4 against Solihull B team people want him in the first team. This isn't football manager, I get you want to bring through an unknown youngster who will tear up the championship because he got 2 goals and an assist against Barnsley reserves, but fact is, he isn't big enough. The coaches know when he's ready. "Worth bringing on for the last 20 mins surely"

Why?

11 stone? How heavy do you want him to be? You do realise that most footballers are generally lean and not that heavy.

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rob9872 · Jan 22, 2022

But if vik plays and gets injured we've fekked everything and he'd have to play in the league. The ideal time imo

Deleted member 9744 · Jan 22, 2022

stupot07 said:
11 stone? How heavy do you want him to be? You do realise that most footballers are generally lean and not that heavy.

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Must admit I couldn't understand that comment either

Deleted member 9744 · Jan 22, 2022

stupot07 said:
11 stone? How heavy do you want him to be? You do realise that most footballers are generally lean and not that heavy.

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Must admit I couldn't understand that comment either

larry_david · Jan 22, 2022

According to Google godden is 12 stone, o hare is 10.2

Liquid Gold · Jan 22, 2022

Skinny bitches

SheafIsGod · Jan 22, 2022

Briles said:
Sick of hearing the "Tavares needs a chance" bollocks.

Hes 21, about 11 stone wet through and because he's scored 4 against Solihull B team people want him in the first team. This isn't football manager, I get you want to bring through an unknown youngster who will tear up the championship because he got 2 goals and an assist against Barnsley reserves, but fact is, he isn't big enough. The coaches know when he's ready. "Worth bringing on for the last 20 mins surely"

Why?

One of the worst takes I’ve seen.

What’s the plan with him then? Just bang in goals in the under 23’s for the next 2 years and then sell him to the first offer?

21? Irrelevant. Players younger than him are playing every week for better teams than us.

We’ll be crying out for goals now in Goddens absence. Give him a few games. If he’s not good enough, we’ll soon find out.

larry_david · Jan 22, 2022

Yep very weird thread. The guy really can't do much more in terms of scoring goals against the opposition he faces. Robins has repeatedly said he's a great kid with a wonderful attitude and infectious personality so it's not like he's a jonno type bellend either. Not sure why there's this negative attitude towards fans who see a young player scoring left right and centre and ask the question of him stepping up

Fergusons_Beard · Jan 22, 2022

Doing my head in too.

He’s not the messiah just a very good player at reserve level.

Didn’t really get a chance to break into the first team at Rochdale either.

Needs a decent loan and a season playing first team football.

And before anyone says he’s better than Walker-pace alone does not make a player.

Got a long way to go but fingers crossed he’ll be an asset.

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Deleted member 5849 · Jan 22, 2022

The fact he wasn't on the bench today shows all you need to know about where the management rate him atm, really.

Tea & Busquets · Jan 23, 2022

think he’s ready for a league 2 loan along with bapz. would be nice to get the two on loan at the same club to build a senior partnership.

sylus · Jan 23, 2022

Deleted member 5849 said:
The fact he wasn't on the bench today shows all you need to know about where the management rate him atm, really.

i was disappointed not to see him even on the bench, but i guess or hope his time will come, personally i would of dropped Eccles for him yesterday.

Lord_Nampil · Jan 23, 2022

Everyone says he’s not ready, yesterday Stoke started wright-Phillips, who scored his first first team goal after playing u23 for most the season… similar age to Tavares…

Deity · Jan 23, 2022

Briles said:
Sick of hearing the "Tavares needs a chance" bollocks.

Hes 21, about 11 stone wet through and because he's scored 4 against Solihull B team people want him in the first team. This isn't football manager, I get you want to bring through an unknown youngster who will tear up the championship because he got 2 goals and an assist against Barnsley reserves, but fact is, he isn't big enough. The coaches know when he's ready. "Worth bringing on for the last 20 mins surely"

Why?

Like most City fans I’ve not seen him play enough to really know.

What I do know is that he can’t do more this season to be given a go. He has pace, he’s in goal scoring he’s confident, qualities that Vik and Waggy don’t have currently.

Robins says he’s a natural finisher, he would know.

when you can have 7 subs it’s strange not to give yourself that option.

better days · Jan 23, 2022

I reckon we'll see the lad in the coming weeks when we have a huge number of games in a short period
With no PL next week the Championship will take centre stage
God help him if he doesn't score in his first game or two

Sick Boy · Jan 23, 2022

Ideally he’d have gone out on loan this season - wasn’t he also a reserve striker for Rochdale?

theferret · Jan 23, 2022

Sick Boy said:
Ideally he’d have gone out on loan this season - wasn’t he also a reserve striker for Rochdale?

At 18. He is now 21. If he physically isn't up to it now, I doubt he ever will be.

Torquay Sky Blue · Jan 23, 2022

Torquay had QPR 19 year old Sinclair Armstrong on loan. He scored a couple and certainly made an impression , big fast striker with a big future. Gone back to QPR whilst they decide where next. Obviously not ready for first team. Point is , the National league is a good grounding for potential but not for the faint hearted in physicality.
Think it's time Tavares steps up to mens football now. Needs to test himself against stronger centre backs

Jagmannn · Jan 23, 2022

The trouble is we are hearing about this natural goal scorer in the U23s...& we need a goal scorer in the first team......That is why the fans are frustrated with him not being given a chance ...so give him a go - if it doesn't work out ...we just give him a bit more time in U23s

Fergusons_Beard · Jan 23, 2022

Two words that’ll sort the clamour out-

Jordan Ponticelli.

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SBT · Jan 23, 2022

SheafIsGod said:
Give him a few games. If he’s not good enough, we’ll soon find out.

Unlike oiks like you and me, Robins doesn’t need to see him get match experience to know whether he’s good enough.

larry_david · Jan 23, 2022

Don't get the ponticelli argument. He came in the back end at league 2, scored some goals. Next season went for a seasonal loan at Macclesfield, broke his toe on debut and basically out for the season. He then never came back from it. Injuries got him at a crucial time in his cov career, in the meantime we raised up without him. It happens.

We've signed tavares whilst we've been in the championship as a low cost transfer. We've not risen without him, we're exactly where we were when we signed him and he's had a year of developing, scoring goals (top scorer in the u23s league last I heard) and getting good words off MR.

Is it time for him to feature? Not sure personally but all he can do is score goals against the oppo he faces and work on his weaknesses which we are told he's doing.

TomRad85 · Jan 23, 2022

Problem here is the lack of middle ground I think, so I'm going to take it. Almost certainly he's not the next Callum Wilson, but then nobody would have predicted Callum Wilson would become Callum Wilson really would they. On the other hand there's every chance he'll end up a better player than Ponticelli who always looked kind of tubby and not very mobile to me. Will that be Championship standard? Possibly not, but I'd quite like to see him off the bench personally, not like we've left ourselves with much fucking option have we.

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SAJ · Jan 23, 2022

Briles said:
Sick of hearing the "Tavares needs a chance" bollocks.

Hes 21, about 8 stone wet through and because he's scored 4 against Solihull B team people want him in the first team. This isn't football manager, I get you want to bring through an unknown youngster who will tear up the championship because he got 2 goals and an assist against Barnsley reserves, but fact is, he isn't big enough. The coaches know when he's ready. "Worth bringing on for the last 20 mins surely"

Why?

Michael Owen was 17 when he first played for Liverpool at a standard considerably above what we play. Wayne Rooney was 17. Robbie Fowler was 18. If you don’t give them a chance they can’t do it. We’re playing a striker who hasn’t scored in our last 15 games and the other only fir one has scored one goal all season yet we have someone within the club who appears to know where the net is. Seems to me give the guy a go if he shows he’s not up to it fair enough but he may well surprise the management team.

TomRad85 · Jan 23, 2022

SAJ said:
Michael Owen was 17 when he first played for Liverpool at a standard considerably above what we play. Wayne Rooney was 17. Robbie Fowler was 18. If you don’t give them a chance they can’t do it. We’re playing a striker who hasn’t scored in our last 15 games and the other only fir one has scored one goal all season yet we have someone within the club who appears to know where the net is. Seems to me give the guy a go if he shows he’s not up to it fair enough but he may well surprise the management team.

Also to add to that, it seems we aren't going down and sadly it also seems we've royally messed up our play off chances so it's not the worst time to stick him on for 20 mins. Not much to lose from doing it.

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Jan 23, 2022

I can understand why people think he'd be worth a spot on the bench, especially now with Walker on loan, Godden out and Waghorn working his way back to fitness after a lengthy layoff.

There are some who seem to be of the opinion that all he can do is run fast, but he's scoring goals in the U23's, so it's not like ALL he's able to do is run fast. He does know where the net is. Yes, it's not the same standard or intensity but he can only score against who he's pitted against and he's doing that regularly.

With the sudden lack of striking options, a number of games in quick succession coming up, his performances in the U23's, the fact he's different to our other forwards in that he has pace and as an unknown quantity the opposition may not have done that much homework on him yet, it's worth taking a chance putting on the bench given it has seven berths. Maybe he'd struggle if he came on? Maybe he'd exceed everyone's expectations? But the surefire way he definitely won't be making an impact is if he's not able to come on at all.

Grendel · Jan 23, 2022

We play one up front anyone who thinks Tavares will contribute a tenth of what Gyokeres did yesterday is clueless

TomRad85 · Jan 23, 2022

Grendel said:
We play one up front anyone who thinks Tavares will contribute a tenth of what Gyokeres did yesterday is clueless

Should we even be playing one up front at home? Different question for a different day I suppose.

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Houchens Head · Jan 23, 2022

He sings a mean song though..........
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