The boat/James (28 Viewers)

[WillenhallSkyBlues]

He's sent out a text about refunds. Don't know how much is being refunded as
I haven't bothered myself. I had a cracking day a scrounged a lift back to Cov on his coach so all's good as far as im concerned.

Been apparently sending out texts about refunds for the last 2 weeks hasn’t he

 

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[clint van damme]

Been apparently sending out texts about refunds for the last 2 weeks hasn’t he

Yeah, I've had a couple. Doesn't say how much it the texts

 

[Nick]

Yeah, I've had a couple. Doesn't say how much it the texts

He's going round the houses with bags of 2ps

 

[Otis]

He's going round the houses with bags of 2ps

I've heard otherwise and that he's not doing that at all, so which is right?

2p or not 2p, that is the question.

Oh, come on! Someone had to do it!!!

 

[usskyblue]

Been apparently sending out texts about refunds for the last 2 weeks hasn’t he

Do you have a link m8 ?

 

[WillenhallSkyBlues]

All going on over on twitter

 

[Otis]

You are mum? You are court file?

They might have trouble understanding the court file.

 

[WillenhallSkyBlues]

You’d think after scamming thousands out of fellow city fans he’d stay out of the limelight abit though wouldn’t you

 

[Nick]

It's a bit random how he has just ignored it all and carried on.

 

[Otis]

You’d think after scamming thousands out of fellow city fans he’d stay out of the limelight abit though wouldn’t you

What has he said then? All I can see there is this woman's response to whatever it was he was saying?

I agree though, he should be 100% focused on refunding any money he owes.

 

[Nick]

What has he said then? All I can see there is this woman's response to whatever it was he was saying?

I agree though, he should be 100% focused on refunding any money he owes.

Trying to sell badges by the looks of it.

 

[Otis]

You’d think after scamming thousands out of fellow city fans he’d stay out of the limelight abit though wouldn’t you

What has he said then? All I can see there is this woman's response to whatever it was he was saying.

I agree though, he should be 100% focused on refunding any money he owes.

 

[oucho]

Do we know what his involvement in the Barca trip was, and what actually happened? So far the only allegations I've seen have been hysterical/apeshit rantings on Facebook.....

 

[WillenhallSkyBlues]

It's a bit random how he has just ignored it all and carried on.

Yeah it’s strange how there’s been no reply on any platform or when people have asked him in person for weeks and just randomly pops up to flog his badges

 

[WillenhallSkyBlues]

What has he said then? All I can see there is this woman's response to whatever it was he was saying.

I agree though, he should be 100% focused on refunding any money he owes.

All he replied back to her was

‘I’ve messaged you’

 

[Otis]

Trying to sell badges by the looks of it.

Ah, but maybe he is trying to sell badges in order to pay people their money back.

On the other hand though, maybe he used their money to buy more badges.

 

[WillenhallSkyBlues]

Ah, but maybe he is trying to sell badges in order to pay people their money back.

On the other hand though, maybe he used their money to buy more badges.

Someone’s asked him if he donates money to the British legion and all he was bothered about is mentioning that he’s the only one in the country he knows that does the 100 year ones then had to mention he gives £1 of every badge after someone asked him again haha

 

[Liquid Gold]

Why does everything good seem to be ruined by the person that started it being a nutter.

Club is being bought out, no more sisu. Oh fuck it's Dale Evans and his imaginary poker winnings

Nice boat trip with some drinks for us all. Fuck off, stand on a rainy deck with no booze, lots of love, committed fraudster

 

[WillenhallSkyBlues]

He needs to be clever about them poppy badges cause someone will grass him up out of spite of the boat fiasco and he’ll gave another fraud case on his hands

 

[oucho]

He needs to be clever about them poppy badges cause someone will grass him up out of spite of the boat fiasco and he’ll gave another fraud case on his hands

Nice boat trip with some drinks for us all. Fuck off, stand on a rainy deck with no booze, lots of love, committed fraudster

Has the bloke actually been charged with, or convicted of, fraud? Or are these just allegations at this stage?

 

[PurpleBin]

He's said he hasn't done refunds as the funds haven't hit his account...Mad how the people defending him on here with bank statements and that have gone quiet

 

[PurpleBin]

Has the bloke actually been charged with, or convicted of, fraud? Or are these just allegations at this stage?

I think he acknowledged he's been in nick for fraud. Might be wrong though.

 

[Liquid Gold]

Has the bloke actually been charged with, or convicted of, fraud? Or are these just allegations at this stage?

From what I understand with passing (barely) interest he has done time for fraud in the past. I'm sure if you have time to jump back in this thread it is confirmed somewhere.

 

[chiefdave]

Do we know what his involvement in the Barca trip was, and what actually happened? So far the only allegations I've seen have been hysterical/apeshit rantings on Facebook.....

He was running trips to various matches in Europe. Claimed he had a whole plane booked out. People paid up front and then there was no trip. Lots of promises of refunds but seems like nothing has been paid back.

 

[The Great Eastern]

I think he acknowledged he's been in nick for fraud. Might be wrong though.

By his own admission, he's done a bit of time in Her Majesties Hotel. Pretty sure that was for fraud.
Allegedly.........

 

[james raffell]

I’ve spoke with the woman about the Barca trip regularly and she cancelled going a week before the trip, I’ve said to her she can have the refund but I need the money refunded in my account first. She knew my address and phone number from the outset.
The poppy badges are something I’ve done every year, I’ve tried keeping up to date with texts but it’s impossible, every person on that boat that wanted money back or some have opted for a free trip will get it back, but I need the money in my account in order to send it out to people.

 

[PurpleBin]

Bit random but he's not related to Raf is he?

 

[Nick]

I’ve spoke with the woman about the Barca trip regularly and she cancelled going a week before the trip, I’ve said to her she can have the refund but I need the money refunded in my account first. She knew my address and phone number from the outset.
The poppy badges are something I’ve done every year, I’ve tried keeping up to date with texts but it’s impossible, every person on that boat that wanted money back or some have opted for a free trip will get it back, but I need the money in my account in order to send it out to people.

Surely if she cancels a week before she doesn't get a refund or if she does it is a percentage?

 

[WillenhallSkyBlues]

I’ve spoke with the woman about the Barca trip regularly and she cancelled going a week before the trip, I’ve said to her she can have the refund but I need the money refunded in my account first. She knew my address and phone number from the outset.
The poppy badges are something I’ve done every year, I’ve tried keeping up to date with texts but it’s impossible, every person on that boat that wanted money back or some have opted for a free trip will get it back, but I need the money in my account in order to send it out to people.

What about the people like myself that booked via people you know rather than you directly, I’ve spoken to them about a refund and they’ve said they’ve heard nothing from you about it. So bit of billshit there cause you’ve not contacted everyone who was on the boat

 

[james raffell]

If they have contacted me I’ll have their details about a refund. I’ve tried to keep a lot of them unread so when it credits me I can go straight down the messages and all ‘unread’ messages I can go in and pay.

Also Nick, a full refund was agreed but said to her that it’ll be a case of when I get the money back, I was hoping it would have been by now and I said to her it’ll be before the end of October, I’ve spoke to her again today and said it hasn’t credited me so I can’t send it but I want this sorry affair over more than anyone

 

[Otis]

If they have contacted me I’ll have their details about a refund. I’ve tried to keep a lot of them unread so when it credits me I can go straight down the messages and all ‘unread’ messages I can go in and pay.

Also Nick, a full refund was agreed but said to her that it’ll be a case of when I get the money back, I was hoping it would have been by now and I said to her it’ll be before the end of October, I’ve spoke to her again today and said it hasn’t credited me so I can’t send it but I want this sorry affair over more than anyone

James, have you not thought of borrowing the money off family members (mum, dad, brother) so you can pay people back?

If you know money is coming back into your account it should prove to be a very short term loan shouldn't it?

That would sort it all out right now.

 

[james raffell]

James, have you not thought of borrowing the money off family members (mum, dad, brother) so you can pay people back?

If you know money is coming back into your account it should prove to be a very short term loan shouldn't it?

That would sort it all out right now.

It would be a short term loan but most of the family aren’t in a position to do it. My bro is looking at getting a mortgage and my mum and dad are retired so live from their pension and because I f**ked up a boat trip shouldn’t have them short for £1,400 for a few weeks (that’s the amount still owed for the boat).

 

[WhaleOilBeefHooked]

It would be a short term loan but most of the family aren’t in a position to do it. My bro is looking at getting a mortgage and my mum and dad are retired so live from their pension and because I f**ked up a boat trip shouldn’t have them short for £1,400 for a few weeks (that’s the amount still owed for the boat).

bullshit

 

[Otis]

It would be a short term loan but most of the family aren’t in a position to do it. My bro is looking at getting a mortgage and my mum and dad are retired so live from their pension and because I f**ked up a boat trip shouldn’t have them short for £1,400 for a few weeks (that’s the amount still owed for the boat).

Yep, but it's all gotten quite nasty hasn't it.

How much longer until you have the funds? Obviously some people are now simply not believing you ,or anything you are saying.

 

[Nick]

If they have contacted me I’ll have their details about a refund. I’ve tried to keep a lot of them unread so when it credits me I can go straight down the messages and all ‘unread’ messages I can go in and pay.

Also Nick, a full refund was agreed but said to her that it’ll be a case of when I get the money back, I was hoping it would have been by now and I said to her it’ll be before the end of October, I’ve spoke to her again today and said it hasn’t credited me so I can’t send it but I want this sorry affair over more than anyone

Are the boat people giving you refund? If you arent staying in touch with people they will speculate and it will get worse won't it.