Really? They are complaining that they don’t ( at least Heidi is ). Farage won’t debate her. I thought he wasn’t afraid of interviews and believed in democracy?
What’s a bigger scandal is Heidi Whatshername and Austerity Anna get any airtime as they command a whopping 4% and they are getting equal footing with Farage
I couldn’t care about his manifesto - I want him to cause mayhem in the Brussels Reichstag - how can you have a manifesto when we are supposed to be leaving?
Really? They are complaining that they don’t ( at least Heidi is ). Farage won’t debate her. I thought he wasn’t afraid of interviews and believed in democracy?
Crap.
As leader of a party that’s polling at 34% and growing, it would be scandalous if broadcasters weren’t queueing up to get him on TV and radio.
He's on TV and radio because he’s not scared of being interviewed. Unlike Corbyn and May who are frightened to show their face and dodge every opportunity.
And I suppose the poor have never been ignored before this?Traders and investors stand to make money on the collapse of the pound. Doesn’t mention anything about the forgotten people in post industrial Britain. They have been told to believe in Britain and, by Farage, that Juncker is permanently drunk after lunch and that they should vote for the BXP to show their faith in Great Britain.
Crap.
As leader of a party that’s polling at 34% and growing, it would be scandalous if broadcasters weren’t queueing up to get him on TV and radio.
He's on TV and radio because he’s not scared of being interviewed. Unlike Corbyn and May who are frightened to show their face and dodge every opportunity.
And I suppose the poor have never been ignored before this?
We have always been run for the benefit of the rich. And think about it. The better off have benefited much more with the cheap labour that freedom of movement has given. Look at us now. Record employment. Lowest amount of jobless for 50 years. Is it the poor who have benefited? Why haven't you protested about this?
He is someone who knows how to hold a stage. And he has been given a platform by people like yourself who just want to totally ignore about half the population. You said they didn't have a voice like the remainers who went on a march. And you wouldn't listen when I said it would change when it looked like we might not be leaving. Now I have been shown to be correct yet again you see it as a complete travesty.It's a one concept party in an election for a parliament they don't want to be in. It's opportunism at it's finest. And he is only happy being interviewed when he is in control of the discussion, if he's not he spits his dummy out.
And yet again you don't consider a point I have made but make out it is a view of my own.Do you think the libertarian, free market ideologues leading the Brexit charge want free markets in everything except labour?
Most of the Brexit campaigners promised more immigration, not less. It was the voters that made it about immigration, to the denial of all the leading figures.
They outright said they want more immigration from the Indian subcontinent and the voters went “yeah kick out the Muzzies!!”
Open door immigration is by definition a right wing policy. They just arent honest about it.
A one trick pony who has learned a second trick.It's a one concept party in an election for a parliament they don't want to be in. It's opportunism at it's finest. And he is only happy being interviewed when he is in control of the discussion, if he's not he spits his dummy out.
He is someone who knows how to hold a stage. And he has been given a platform by people like yourself who just want to totally ignore about half the population. You said they didn't have a voice like the remainers who went on a march. And you wouldn't listen when I said it would change when it looked like we might not be leaving. Now I have been shown to be correct yet again you see it as a complete travesty.
You were never going to keep half the population silent. Now it has become messier than it needed. And all because many tried to silent those who voted against what you and other millions wanted. But if course you will still pretend not to get the point.
So children and babies should have voted now?Half the population didn’t even vote so I’m not sure how you can claim half the population voted for brexit. It was about a quarter at best.
Farage “not scared of interviews”
Why does he spit his dummy whenever he’s asked any questions he doesn’t like then?
Did anyone see the Huw Edwards interview with Ferage yesterday?
Blah blah BMW, blah blah blah French wine, blah blah blah WTO, blah blah blah technology blah blah blah.
Basically he still has no answers so is regurgitating the same old factless and already dismissed urban myths. I was half expecting him to claim Marc Almond has taken a line up of sailers meaning he had to have his stomach pumped because he’d overdosed on spunk and the doctors counted a gazillion different types of semen in his stomach.
I couldn’t care about his manifesto - I want him to cause mayhem in the Brussels Reichstag - how can you have a manifesto when we are supposed to be leaving?
So children and babies should have voted now?
It was people like yourself who voted for Farage and UKIP that gave him a stage.
Heat getting to you Tony?
I take it you haven’t seen it then?
He is someone who knows how to hold a stage. And he has been given a platform by people like yourself who just want to totally ignore about half the population. You said they didn't have a voice like the remainers who went on a march. And you wouldn't listen when I said it would change when it looked like we might not be leaving. Now I have been shown to be correct yet again you see it as a complete travesty.
You were never going to keep half the population silent. Now it has become messier than it needed. And all because many tried to silent those who voted against what you and other millions wanted. But if course you will still pretend not to get the point.
You must have me confused with someone else...
I have argued countless times that the Remain approach has been arrogant, fronted by careerists that do not remotely appeal to anyone other than their London-centric focus groups.
I have also argued that the root cause of Leave is austerity, inequality and an abandonment of post-industrial towns, funding and infrastructure only seems to exist south of Milton Keynes.
I agree that you can not abandon half the population, and this is why I have consistently said that Labour have the hardest gap to bridge. A largely remain vote in and around the capital, however in the marginal seats they need to hold AND win - its leave in the majority. Their ambivalence has come from not knowing which side to fall on. 12 months ago I would say that Labour should be trying to convince their Leave voters that they can transform their lives with their manifesto and build a better world without the need to leave. Now I think it’s the Remainers that need to come over and accept we have to go.
Farage has exploited this situation for sure.... but he can’t live in the Brexit bubble forever
Marc almond in an orgy - oddly no
I understand where you’re coming from and the remain campaign was dire, but the problem is that in reality how is Brexit going to improve the lives of those who voted remain, and leave for that matter.
How is leaving the EU going address the Londoncentric approach and bridge the gap between the rich and the poor? There’s little to suggest that Brexit would do any of that and that those at the top in favour of it have any inclination to do so.
It’s no good just saying remainers have to get on side, it’s going to take hard evidence to convince these people.
I understand where you’re coming from and the remain campaign was dire, but the problem is that in reality how is Brexit going to improve the lives of those who voted remain, and leave for that matter.
How is leaving the EU going address the Londoncentric approach and bridge the gap between the rich and the poor? There’s little to suggest that Brexit would do any of that and that those at the top in favour of it have any inclination to do so.
It’s no good just saying remainers have to get on side, it’s going to take hard evidence to convince these people.
The argument goes that voting for establishment parties also didn’t solve their problems. So you offer them a great big unknown and enough go “fuck it, how bad can it be?”
Farage “not scared of interviews”
Why does he spit his dummy whenever he’s asked any questions he doesn’t like then?
It wasn't meant for you sorry. You are one of the rare ones on here that looks at both sides without bias. And it is a very hard thing to do sometimes.You must have me confused with someone else...
I have argued countless times that the Remain approach has been arrogant, fronted by careerists that do not remotely appeal to anyone other than their London-centric focus groups.
I have also argued that the root cause of Leave is austerity, inequality and an abandonment of post-industrial towns, funding and infrastructure only seems to exist south of Milton Keynes.
I agree that you can not abandon half the population, and this is why I have consistently said that Labour have the hardest gap to bridge. A largely remain vote in and around the capital, however in the marginal seats they need to hold AND win - its leave in the majority. Their ambivalence has come from not knowing which side to fall on. 12 months ago I would say that Labour should be trying to convince their Leave voters that they can transform their lives with their manifesto and build a better world without the need to leave. Now I think it’s the Remainers that need to come over and accept we have to go.
Farage has exploited this situation for sure.... but he can’t live in the Brexit bubble forever
Still didn't answer the questions though did he....I can only assume you’re referring to the interview where he rightly challenged ach-remainer Marr on his line of questioning. He exposed the spluttering BBC stooge as a biased dimwit and in the process strengthened his own popularity.
What mistake? Stop talking the bollocks you accuse me of and explain who the half was that didn't vote for Brexit then. Because if it was votes cast over half voted to leave. That is why we are in this mess. But you said half the population didn't even vote. But as usual you try to change what you have said.Should they? I wouldn’t say so. Which is exactly the point. Half the population didn’t vote for brexit. You could just acknowledge your mistake instead of taking bollocks.
So who is the half of the population that didn't vote?Half the population didn’t even vote so I’m not sure how you can claim half the population voted for brexit. It was about a quarter at best.
And there is the problem. Try telling those who voted leave that things will improve if we remain in the EU.I understand where you’re coming from and the remain campaign was dire, but the problem is that in reality how is Brexit going to improve the lives of those who voted remain, and leave for that matter.
How is leaving the EU going address the Londoncentric approach and bridge the gap between the rich and the poor? There’s little to suggest that Brexit would do any of that and that those at the top in favour of it have any inclination to do so.
It’s no good just saying remainers have to get on side, it’s going to take hard evidence to convince these people.
I’m not saying I’m right, and in fact your good points are testament to the fact that it is incredibly complex.
Since the result I feel the remain camp have merely trotted out the line of 'you were wrong to vote Leave, you were misinformed/stupid/naive'. Look at the people championing the 2nd Ref/PV - Umanna, Soubry, Blair, Cable..... people that not going to inspire anyone, especially not Leave voters.
They have utterly lost the argument, even when you have evidence that exiting the EU would have a detrimental effect. That's why I feel it may have to be this camp that moves first to find a middle ground.
The Tories were telling everyone that this negotiation was going to be a piece of piss, and we'd have the EU eating out of our hands, but it couldn't have been further from the truth. People love to try and pin this on Labour, but actually they can't do a thing... they don't have the numbers in terms of seats, and their ambivalence will have cost them voters, but their vote demographic was the most complex of all the parties.
My problem with Farage is that he wants a Hard Brexit for his own personal gain. And he is now pushing the notion that anything other than that isn't really Brexit. It's a lie and he knows it.
A solution? Who knows...
And I suppose the poor have never been ignored before this?
We have always been run for the benefit of the rich. And think about it. The better off have benefited much more with the cheap labour that freedom of movement has given. Look at us now. Record employment. Lowest amount of jobless for 50 years. Is it the poor who have benefited? Why haven't you protested about this?
I can only assume you’re referring to the interview where he rightly challenged ach-remainer Marr on his line of questioning. He exposed the spluttering BBC stooge as a biased dimwit and in the process strengthened his own popularity.
And there is the problem. Try telling those who voted leave that things will improve if we remain in the EU.
Whether things improve depends on the UK government. The Union is not a super state and does not rule the UK. The UK government is responsible for the UK economy, and more importantly, wealth distribution within the UK. You just fell into the trap. Blame the EU. Ignore the fact that the UK has a sovereign parliament and passes it’s own laws.
Back to Selmayr and Juncker soon. Lets the UK government off the hook.
Leaving solves nothing. If anything it creates more potential problems by putting the country into the situation of a distressed trading partner. A pointless for the point of view of the UK less well off, but handy for creating a more US style economy away from EU labour rights and regulatory protections. Plus it takes the heat of Crown Colony tax havens.
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