No, but anyone who celebrates anything to do with Brexit that might be negative, but couldn't stop crying when the referendum result was confirmed because they were worried it was the decision which would kill the country strikes me as a bit of a hypocrit.
It isn't even just you. It's a considerable amount of people who voted remain.
I don't think many remainers are celebrating the fuck up known as Brexit or the negative things to do with it.
No, but anyone who celebrates anything to do with Brexit that might be negative, but couldn't stop crying when the referendum result was confirmed because they were worried it was the decision which would kill the country strikes me as a bit of a hypocrit.
It isn't even just you. It's a considerable amount of people who voted remain.
I am angry about the damage that will be done to our country. In no way have I ever or will celebrate. I do believe that those who lied about Brexit and who pushed for it should be held to account though.
Of course.
What about the project fear brigade that are already showing that they were wide of the mark though?
You know, if the remain campaign would have been honest and humble, they would have won. 100% no doubt about it.
I was born into a working class family (born in Radford). Must have put my X in the wrong box by mistake. Hey ho
I have no idea if this can be supported by survey, but I think that the typical Remainer was born with a silver spoon in their mouth. Brought up in relative wealth: second or third generation of wealth and busy living the dream on inherited money (even if not actually inherited yet); never wanted for anything; university education from Mummy & Daddy's money. And yet those of us that inherited fuck all; who had next to nothing whilst growing up and were made to realise it in the playground in extremis; who had to work for every penny and yet even so made something of it; who refuse to be bullied and take the EU's shit; must be Neanderthal: must be racist; must be stupid; must be the enemy.
Apologies in advance; I've been sat in the garden drinking... but fuck you! We've had to fight for everything and we don't take shit from anyone, including the EU and Juncker. When a deal is bad we will walk away - especially from a privileged bureaucrat like Juncker. The middle class is so far removed from what is actually happening in the world, especially the under 40s who haven't ever had to fight for anything; that I cannot give a shit about their opinions.
So stiffen the sinews etc.
Oh yeah - I left out the bit about being the son of Irish immigrants.I also came from a working class Irish family, oh well.....
I would also have zero chance of home ownership in the UK either due to a lack finance of deposit etc.
Of course.
What about the project fear brigade that are already showing that they were wide of the mark though?
You know, if the remain campaign would have been honest and humble, they would have won. 100% no doubt about it.
I have no idea if this can be supported by survey, but I think that the typical Remainer was born with a silver spoon in their mouth. Brought up in relative wealth: second or third generation of wealth and busy living the dream on inherited money (even if not actually inherited yet); never wanted for anything; university education from Mummy & Daddy's money. And yet those of us that inherited fuck all; who had next to nothing whilst growing up and were made to realise it in the playground in extremis; who had to work for every penny and yet even so made something of it; who refuse to be bullied and take the EU's shit; must be Neanderthal: must be racist; must be stupid; must be the enemy.
Apologies in advance; I've been sat in the garden drinking... but fuck you! We've had to fight for everything and we don't take shit from anyone, including the EU and Juncker. When a deal is bad we will walk away - especially from a privileged bureaucrat like Juncker. The middle class is so far removed from what is actually happening in the world, especially the under 40s who haven't ever had to fight for anything; that I cannot give a shit about their opinions.
So stiffen the sinews etc.
Yeah well, as a mathematician I understand that 'typical' doesn't mean 'all'. I also understand that Irish doesn't mean poor. And, BTW, that an ellipsis has only three dots.
Of course.
What about the project fear brigade that are already showing that they were wide of the mark though?
You know, if the remain campaign would have been honest and humble, they would have won. 100% no doubt about it.
We won't have to abide by decisions made by bureaucrats in Brussels, we'll have to abide by decisions made by bureaucrats in London.I still don't understand how the UK is going to be better off by leaving EU.
We won't have to abide by decisions made by bureaucrats in Brussels, we'll have to abide by decisions made by bureaucrats in London.
So it depends on whether you prefer the ones in Brussels or London.
Haha you're pathetic.
Pleasant.
Biggest propaganda was not project fear, but project blame everything on the EU. This has being going on since we joined, but more so in recent years as Europe was moving together. Some people obviously don't want a major trading block to work- for whatever reason..,
Oh really? Are you suggesting leave won because they did conduct an honest and humble campaign? I think the public seemed to go for the campaign that lied and distorted the most, and the one that played on the fear of foreigners .... creating a feeling of Job insecurity and foreigners is a simple way of winding up the voters for demagogues... Farage and Boris were in their element.. as was Trump in the USA...their followers threw caution to the wind... now, who knows what will happen?
Yes, you are right. The whole thing was and continues to be a Tory balls up.Of course.
What about the project fear brigade that are already showing that they were wide of the mark though?
You know, if the remain campaign would have been honest and humble, they would have won. 100% no doubt about it.
Yes, you are right. The whole thing was and continues to be a Tory balls up.
The remain side was an utter disgrace, led by arrogant Tories and half hearted Labourites (who should have voted against having a referendum and voted against triggering article 50)
The whole thing has been a tragedy and will continue to be so. In ten years time all may be well but it's unlikely that it will have been worth the 12 wasted years and division and recriminations it has caused.
What we are seeing is an unnecessary leap in the dark. Anyone who tries to stop that leap or urge caution is denounced as a traitor, an enemy of the people, remainer , remainiac etc.
I hope it turns out well in the end, I really do, but I hate this nastiness and anti-EU, "let's hope it crashes and burns so we can say we were right to leave" nonsense. The whole thing is a nightmare IMO
Yes... thought you'd like that.... take your blue passport and your pounds and ounces, along with your pounds shillings and pence, and negotiate with your mates Trump and Bannon.... Trump knows how to negotiate with people in a weak position...
I think you mean YOU haven't got a clue what she is doing. She is hardly going to tell anybody her bargaining position(s). There will be a priority list.May hasn't got a clue about what she is doing. There are going to be plenty who are going to be in for a shock once things kick off. I see the 'they need us to sell their BMWs and cheese to' rubbish that was spouted on here has been shown up for what it is is, rubbish!
Or is that what the Gov't wants everyone to think?Er no.... it seems from this that May is the unprepared delusional wanker.
Those words in isolation can be construed in at least 3 ways.He said that "Brexit cannot be a success", which I took to mean that both the UK and EU will be harmed by it.
Successive governments have ruled by fear...so usually win on fear factors.Oh really? Are you suggesting leave won because they did conduct an honest and humble campaign? I think the public seemed to go for the campaign that lied and distorted the most, and the one that played on the fear of foreigners .... creating a feeling of Job insecurity and foreigners is a simple way of winding up the voters for demagogues... Farage and Boris were in their element.. as was Trump in the USA...their followers threw caution to the wind... now, who knows what will happen?
60m+ people are never going to be united on anything. The majority vote wins the day...which is why we are leavingOne thing I'm sure we can all agree was that May was talking rubbish when she said the people of the UK were coming together. British society is now going to be divided for the foreseeable future.
60m+ people are never going to be united on anything. The majority vote wins the day...which is why we are leaving
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Successive governments have ruled by fear...so usually win on fear factors.
Our be auroras are now going to have to find another gear & become more accountable & more efficient. They can no longer blame the EU for bad stuff. But there are many more be autocratic in place than alone we will need. So central government costs will in 10yrs time most likely be relatively less...so either we get lower taxes, or more on health & education...or whatever
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