The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (33 Viewers)

Grendel · Jul 19, 2019

Sick Boy said:
He’s come out with so much now that he would look an even bigger fool to present a May type deal.

Why will he? He produces some kippers out of one pocket and some ice from another and makes a bizarre story about added cost to an island not even in the EU.

If may or hunt did it they’d be destroyed. Johnson does it and everyone thinks it’s funny and no one cares it was a stunt to gain attention.

You have no idea about the marketing and image creation that is Boris Johnson - the silly zip wire stunt where he got stuck in mid air and waved the Union Jack? Didn’t get stuck. It was rigged. He’s often done speeches where he laughs and says he forgot the punchline over and over again. He can screw any woman he wants and people will laugh.

This is brand Boris and he can easily get a deal already defeated pretend it’s his and no one will care - it’s all a big laugh

shmmeee · Jul 19, 2019

Grendel said:
Hardly a surprise.

Let’s be honest the one thing Johnson is voted in for is to get Brexit done.

If that’s delivered the Brexit party vanishes and crucially labour having publicly declared (sort of as the great leader agrees with Johnson really) that they will campaign for remain will have nowhere to go. Corbyn is drastically on the wane - peak Corbyn is long long gone.

So it’s a means to an end. Deliver the result get an election done which will move Corbyn out and labour back to a minority opposition and that’s it job done.

Johnson is tommy cooper. It’s all a bad magic act - everything is false but it’s all done to get a result - which if he gets a Brexit if sorts done he will achieve

If that were the case, then that question about being a good prime minister would be lower than this one about handling Brexit from the same poll, it’s not:

43% of Leavers say Boris good at Brexit, 48% say good PM.

I know of several people that voted Brexit because Boris backed it and they love Boris.

The vast majority are really not your Dan Hannan faux intellectuals, they’re the great unwashed I’m afraid.

Though one of my great pleasures in all this is each side of the unholy alliance (on both sides of the Brexit debate) pretending the other is just like them really.

Deleted member 5849 · Jul 19, 2019

Grendel said:
Why will he? He produces some kippers out of one pocket and some ice from another and makes a bizarre story about added cost to an island not even in the EU.

If may or hunt did it they’d be destroyed. Johnson does it and everyone thinks it’s funny and no one cares it was a stunt to gain attention.

You have no idea about the marketing and image creation that is Boris Johnson - the silly zip wire stunt where he got stuck in mid air and waved the Union Jack? Didn’t get stuck. It was rigged. He’s often done speeches where he laughs and says he forgot the punchline over and over again. He can screw any woman he wants and people will laugh.

This is brand Boris and he can easily get a deal already defeated pretend it’s his and no one will care - it’s all a big laugh

I wish I could argue with that!

shmmeee · Jul 19, 2019

Grendel said:
Why will he? He produces some kippers out of one pocket and some ice from another and makes a bizarre story about added cost to an island not even in the EU.

If may or hunt did it they’d be destroyed. Johnson does it and everyone thinks it’s funny and no one cares it was a stunt to gain attention.

You have no idea about the marketing and image creation that is Boris Johnson - the silly zip wire stunt where he got stuck in mid air and waved the Union Jack? Didn’t get stuck. It was rigged. He’s often done speeches where he laughs and says he forgot the punchline over and over again. He can screw any woman he wants and people will laugh.

This is brand Boris and he can easily get a deal already defeated pretend it’s his and no one will care - it’s all a big laugh

Yeah this is spot on.

skybluetony176 · Jul 19, 2019

It’s alright. A British tanker has just been overtaken in international waters and is currently on its way to Iran. Brand Boris will be able to amuse their release just like he has with Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe. What could possibly go wrong.

Grendel · Jul 19, 2019

shmmeee said:
If that were the case, then that question about being a good prime minister would be lower than this one about handling Brexit from the same poll, it’s not:

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43% of Leavers say Boris good at Brexit, 48% say good PM.

I know of several people that voted Brexit because Boris backed it and they love Boris.

The vast majority are really not your Dan Hannan faux intellectuals, they’re the great unwashed I’m afraid.

Though one of my great pleasures in all this is each side of the unholy alliance (on both sides of the Brexit debate) pretending the other is just like them really.

Not really because what does the question a good PM mean? Jeremy Corbyn has the lowest rating in polling history so a dead donkey would attract a good rating if the question is interpreted as “versus what else is out there”

Sick Boy · Jul 19, 2019

Grendel said:
Why will he? He produces some kippers out of one pocket and some ice from another and makes a bizarre story about added cost to an island not even in the EU.

If may or hunt did it they’d be destroyed. Johnson does it and everyone thinks it’s funny and no one cares it was a stunt to gain attention.

You have no idea about the marketing and image creation that is Boris Johnson - the silly zip wire stunt where he got stuck in mid air and waved the Union Jack? Didn’t get stuck. It was rigged. He’s often done speeches where he laughs and says he forgot the punchline over and over again. He can screw any woman he wants and people will laugh.

This is brand Boris and he can easily get a deal already defeated pretend it’s his and no one will care - it’s all a big laugh

Can’t argue with that but it’s a very sad reflection of where the country has now found itself.

As PM though he won’t be able to get away with it so much.

I should also add a prediction...he’ll offer Farage a job to get ‘his’ deal through and Farage won’t be able to resist and will sell out.

martcov · Jul 19, 2019

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
I don't disagree with that one little bit. I thought he'd have been shot by now.

The gun nuts are on his side. He made sure of that.

SkyblueBazza · Jul 19, 2019

Now there's a curious thing...
Brexit campaigner wins appeal against over-spending fine - Reuters

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martcov · Jul 19, 2019

Grendel said:
Hardly a surprise.

Let’s be honest the one thing Johnson is voted in for is to get Brexit done.

If that’s delivered the Brexit party vanishes and crucially labour having publicly declared (sort of as the great leader agrees with Johnson really) that they will campaign for remain will have nowhere to go. Corbyn is drastically on the wane - peak Corbyn is long long gone.

So it’s a means to an end. Deliver the result get an election done which will move Corbyn out and labour back to a minority opposition and that’s it job done.

Johnson is tommy cooper. It’s all a bad magic act - everything is false but it’s all done to get a result - which if he gets a Brexit if sorts done he will achieve

Yes, but as we have witnessed yet again, Boris is not diligent, he doesn’t do due diligence. See the kipper fiasco. The chances of a total fxxk up are enormous. The best case is a Brexit of sorts, but once again, no one will be happy with a Brexit of sorts.

martcov · Jul 19, 2019

SkyblueBazza said:
Now there's a curious thing...
Brexit campaigner wins appeal against over-spending fine - Reuters

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Appeal?

martcov · Jul 19, 2019

Grendel said:
Why will he? He produces some kippers out of one pocket and some ice from another and makes a bizarre story about added cost to an island not even in the EU.

If may or hunt did it they’d be destroyed. Johnson does it and everyone thinks it’s funny and no one cares it was a stunt to gain attention.

You have no idea about the marketing and image creation that is Boris Johnson - the silly zip wire stunt where he got stuck in mid air and waved the Union Jack? Didn’t get stuck. It was rigged. He’s often done speeches where he laughs and says he forgot the punchline over and over again. He can screw any woman he wants and people will laugh.

This is brand Boris and he can easily get a deal already defeated pretend it’s his and no one will care - it’s all a big laugh

I think the kippers weren’t forethought, he was given the information, didn’t check it, but as you say the faithful just say it’s just Boris. I think he will get support from the devil Trump to say he will get a great deal in record time. The Brexiters will say I told you so and break on in cheers.

When everything has died down the terms of any deal will be revealed.

The as with the water cannons and the garden bridge, someone will have to pick up the tab

martcov · Jul 19, 2019

skybluetony176 said:
It’s alright. A British tanker has just been overtaken in international waters and is currently on its way to Iran. Brand Boris will be able to amuse their release just like he has with Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe. What could possibly go wrong.

Best time for them to do it. Distraction of new PM and potential no deal and therefore stress with EU friends.

skybluetony176 · Jul 19, 2019

martcov said:
Best time for them to do it. Distraction of new PM and potential no deal and therefore stress with EU friends.

Seems that although the ship is British registered its Swedish owned and internationally crewed. Maybe Boris won’t need to get involved. Unless we want the flag back. Maybe he could zip wire in, grab the flag and zip wire back out waving it.

Grendel · Jul 19, 2019

martcov said:
I think the kippers weren’t forethought, he was given the information, didn’t check it, but as you say the faithful just say it’s just Boris. I think he will get support from the devil Trump to say he will get a great deal in record time. The Brexiters will say I told you so and break on in cheers.

When everything has died down the terms of any deal will be revealed.

The as with the water cannons and the garden bridge, someone will have to pick up the tab

The kipper incident of course was deliberate as it got him headlines

Sky Blue Pete · Jul 19, 2019

Sick Boy said:
Can’t argue with that but it’s a very sad reflection of where the country has now found itself.

As PM though he won’t be able to get away with it so much.

I should also add a prediction...he’ll offer Farage a job to get ‘his’ deal through and Farage won’t be able to resist and will sell out.

And won’t get a deal

skybluetony176 · Jul 19, 2019

martcov said:
I think the kippers weren’t forethought, he was given the information, didn’t check it, but as you say the faithful just say it’s just Boris. I think he will get support from the devil Trump to say he will get a great deal in record time. The Brexiters will say I told you so and break on in cheers.

When everything has died down the terms of any deal will be revealed.

The as with the water cannons and the garden bridge, someone will have to pick up the tab

Problem is a lot of the defence people were throwing Harvey Weinsteins way for years was by saying it’s just Harvey as an excuse to turn a blind eye to his behaviour. I would think any logical person should have already passed the point of saying it’s just Boris as if it’s a cleansing process to move on from with a blank page. Throw in a few “will of the people” remarks and logic seems to leave many people’s thought process. Which is exactly why brexit has become a cult.

skybluetony176 · Jul 19, 2019

Grendel said:
The kipper incident of course was deliberate as it got him headlines

So you’re seriously suggesting that Boris deliberately told a load of porkies so someone from the EU could correct it? Then again if it’s not broke don’t fix it I guess, it’s got him this far. People are stupid.

Grendel · Jul 19, 2019

skybluetony176 said:
So you’re seriously suggesting that Boris deliberately told a load of porkies so someone from the EU could correct it? Then again if it’s not broke don’t fix it I guess, it’s got him this far. People are stupid.

He made a career of it when he was journalist - it’s what got him noticed

Sick Boy · Jul 19, 2019

Grendel said:
He made a career of it when he was journalist - it’s what got him noticed

Yeah, just sort of qualities to look for in a PM. He’s massively unsuitable and it’s a major embarrassment for the country.

skybluetony176 · Jul 19, 2019

Reports coming in (but unverified) that Iran has taken a second tanker now. Just when you need your best man on the job we’re getting Boris.

Apparently the second tanker is Liberian. Or as Boris would call them piccaninnies.

Sick Boy · Jul 19, 2019

As well as praising the send her back crowd, Trump has also praised Johnson.
Great.

skybluetony176 · Jul 19, 2019

Trump sounds very concerned about the unfolding events. If the unfolding events are being concerned about Kanye Wests mate who’s been locked up in Sweden for fighting. Priorities and all that. Still Kanye Wests mate is black and because of the stupid things he tweets Trump is now at pains to not look a racist by pretending he’s concerned that Sweden might have made a political prisoner of Kanye’s mate and he’s going to use his diplomacy skills to free him.

I’m not even making this shit up and that isn’t even the funny thing. The funny thing is that I’m talking about the president of America.

Sick Boy · Jul 19, 2019

skybluetony176 said:
Trump sounds very concerned about the unfolding events. If the unfolding events are being concerned about Kanye Wests mate who’s been locked up in Sweden for fighting. Priorities and all that. Still Kanye Wests mate is black and because of the stupid things he tweets Trump is now at pains to not look a racist by pretending he’s concerned that Sweden might have made a political prisoner of Kanye’s mate and he’s going to use his diplomacy skills to free him.

I’m not even making this shit up and that isn’t even the funny thing. The funny thing is that I’m talking about the president of America.

The UK is gong to get shafted by him and the likes of China, it’s not going to be pretty.

Sick Boy · Jul 19, 2019

Brexit weakens pound to worst-performing major currency in the world | Metro News

Good news for me when visiting this summer!

skybluetony176 · Jul 19, 2019

Sick Boy said:
Brexit weakens pound to worst-performing major currency in the world | Metro News

Good news for me when visiting this summer!

Fortunately I had the good sense to change a shit load earlier in the year for my summer holidays in just over a week. Seen this coming.

shmmeee · Jul 19, 2019

Sick Boy said:
Brexit weakens pound to worst-performing major currency in the world | Metro News

Good news for me when visiting this summer!

Enjoy your Brexit bonus!

martcov · Jul 19, 2019

Sick Boy said:
Yeah, just sort of qualities to look for in a PM. He’s massively unsuitable and it’s a major embarrassment for the country.

And he hasn’t started yet.

Grendel · Jul 20, 2019

Sick Boy said:
As well as praising the send her back crowd, Trump has also praised Johnson.
Great.

All presidents say positive things about future PMs as they have to work together.

SkyblueBazza · Jul 20, 2019

skybluetony176 said:
Fortunately I had the good sense to change a shit load earlier in the year for my summer holidays in just over a week. Seen this coming.

But in reality - most people's budget, it makes a difference of what? £5-10 on their spending pot for a 2wk holiday?

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SkyblueBazza · Jul 20, 2019

Sick Boy said:
As well as praising the send her back crowd, Trump has also praised Johnson.
Great.

What is it that these women said to gain this kind of response from Trump. I haven't looked for it but haven't seen or heard it reported either. I saw that he claimed at least on of them has said some horrible & unacceptable things about Amercia...but nobody has specified what they were from what I know.

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Grendel · Jul 20, 2019

SkyblueBazza said:
What is it that these women said to gain this kind of response from Trump. I haven't looked for it but haven't seen or heard it reported either. I saw that he claimed at least on of them has said some horrible & unacceptable things about Amercia...but nobody has specified what they were from what I know.

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Mainly it’s Llhan Omah and views on 9 11.

Astute · Jul 20, 2019

Sick Boy said:
Brexit weakens pound to worst-performing major currency in the world | Metro News

Good news for me when visiting this summer!

Lies.

Or what do they count as a major currency?

Grendel · Jul 20, 2019

Oh and the Donald thinks she married her brother to get to the US

Sick Boy · Jul 20, 2019

SkyblueBazza said:
What is it that these women said to gain this kind of response from Trump. I haven't looked for it but haven't seen or heard it reported either. I saw that he claimed at least on of them has said some horrible & unacceptable things about Amercia...but nobody has specified what they were from what I know.

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Shocking that you’re even bothering to try and justify it.

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