shmmeee
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I don’t get it?
Morning lol, just banter.. As you were
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I don’t get it?
Yeah, even Grendel put this forward as a compromise before.
As did Nigel. He’s allowed to change his mind though.
I’m not twisting it. It’s a remain paper. They are pinning their hopes on Corbyn (as caretaker) to at least delay Brexit.
Ps It says ‘....since ousting Johnson in time to affect the Brexit process may also require the creation of caretaker government government under Labours Jeremy corbyn’ ie to be able to do something about Brexit everyone might need to accept Corbyn becoming caretaker.
I do take your point that this is rather ironic given that Corbyn is a massive leaver at heart !!!
Haha course not, it's just a joke anyway... Cheer up, did you sign the petition... Should go far lol
So can I. Interestingly another constitutional expert was on the bbc news last night and guess what? She said the PM will control the date if a no confidence vote results in no government and he can easily make it November
There was a Norway style deal put to parliament in those silly meaningless votes. It was rejected
No seriously. I don’t get it. Who did him where? Who is Amelia?
That’s not what your link said, although you thought it did despite it saying in very plain English that if no government can be formed in 14 days an election is automatically called. So again I’m going to dismiss your interpretation of what a constitutional expert said as you’ve demonstrated that you can’t read plain English so it’s unlikely you understood what would have been a complicated conversation, well complicated for someone who can’t read plain English anyway.
Not sure what that’s got to do with Nigel changing his mind. He’s not and never has been an MP.
That makes no sense what are you on about?
You say parliament is sovereign and a sovereign parliament who say they want to have more time to debate Brexit believe that the option is not an acceptable one
Thanks for proving my point. Wrote in plain English but yet again you don’t understand what you’re reading.
Parliament doesn’t have the numbers to accept any brexit. Are you suggesting we cancel?
It still irrespective of my point that Niggle is allowed to change his mind while no one else is.
No it was illiterate drivel, are you just saying an election is called after 14 days is that the big reveal?
It probably was to you. Given that you provided a link that stated an election is automatically called at the end of the 14 day period if no government can be formed as evidence that it isn’t automatically called.
Parliament was elected to deliver Brexit - the fact that it cannot and you seem to acknowledge it never will and therefore further “debate” is a charade
That’s what i said and what I also said is that the incumbent Prime Minister sets the time table and can make it November
That is just ridiculous & you are every bit as bad as the worst gutter press journo.
Favouring a Corbyn caretaker government!
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That is just ridiculous & you are every bit as bad as the worst gutter press journo.
You selected a section carefully from an article - then had to go a step further & highlight specific words carefully missing out the key words "may also" which can quite dramatically change interpretation.
Nah, I don't accept that. You are able to link to Twitter & I would be amazed if you hadn't done that before...& could have this timeI just lifted the picture from twitter mate, the highlighting was already there. You’ll notice, as you read them, that the words “may also” are still present and so the meaning has not been changed.
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Now though due to parliament there is leave at all costs or remain and that is it. It’s now a battle of wills.
I still think the deal will be re presented to parliament in October and that is the choice people will face. Take that deal or we leave
Nah, I don't accept that. You are able to link to Twitter & I would be amazed if you hadn't done that before...& could have this time
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A) it wasn’t
B) you keep referring to the fixed term parliament act as if you’ve read it and understood what it says. Does it or does it not say in that act that once an election is called the election is held 25 days later? Remember you also thought that this act also stated that there’s only one way an early election could be called. Which you were also wrong on despite being an eye witness to the other way an election can be called under the act in 2017.
Me deluded?Yes I can see it getting through if it went back to parliament.
If you genuinely believe thay the UK is now in a position to demand better terms will get them, then you're seriously deluded.
I deflect nothing. That is your job.You'd think that if it was all above board they wouldn't have dropped their appeal.
And you constatly deflect and find excuses for Leave activities while continually going on about the EU and then wonder why you get called out on it. What you're supporting and justifying sets a very dangerous precendent for the future. If it were the EU you'd be going on about it for years.
No it doesn’t as it misses out some crucial legal aspects regarding the calling of the date including parliamentary wash up time and when dissolution via the queen has to be done - which was simplified in the article which stated categorically that the PM has control of the timetable and can make it November - it says that doesn’t it Tony?
There is only one way an election is called.
Due to the above the opposition are avoiding dealing with the issue correctly and therefore are trying to circumvent it as they cannot deliver following sovereign procedure - as they are not going to accept a government that can dictate the election date timetable.
If you really want to get into semantics some observers actually believe even if the opposition parties can try and force the government into implementing policy it can divert this by doing the following
The government declared a no confidence motion in itself on the final day of the no deal Brexit debate and declared an election. In November
The Tory Mps side with the motion
Then the opposition either support the motion or reject it and then by definition are supporting the government. At which point the attempt to force an act against a government the opposition has just declared support for becomes null and void
Fully agree, it will be the same deal but repackaged. I wonder how the more hardliners will take it though.
The article said automatically called at the end of the 14 days not at the end of the 14 days Boris gets to decide when an election is called. That’s what your link said. The fixed term parliament act states that once an election is called voting takes place 25 days later. Again, this is the legislation you refer to.
You seem to be suggesting that the government can loose a vote of no confidence next month and then hold onto power until May 2022 because the onus is on Boris to set the date. Essentially you’re claiming that we can bump along with no government until the fixed election which is May 2022.
Nah, I don't accept that. You are able to link to Twitter & I would be amazed if you hadn't done that before...& could have this time
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Apologies if I’ve missed the strict sourcing policy of this thread.
Anyway here’s a link to a tweet
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From a pro remain editor - there was a research done somewhere on articles around Brexit and the FT had more pro remain articles than any other paper
All it’s doing is backing a remain mantra - it’s not supporting the Eu hating Jeremy Corbyn - it along with you just fails to see the irony
Fair enough - I can accept that. No offence intended.Apologies if I’ve missed the strict sourcing policy of this thread.
Anyway here’s a link to a tweet
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Fair enough - I can accept that. No offence intended.
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