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The lengths you will go to trying to make out that I have said something that I haven't is unbelievable.So you’re basing it on individual people.
Wow.
If you genuinely believe that outside of Brexiteers and the UK there are people placing blame on the EU for all of this, then you really are off your head.
The lengths you will go to trying to make out that I have said something that I haven't is unbelievable.
Come on then. Yet again you couldn't show where I said countries and not every day people like yourself and I. Now you have gone off on another one which you won't be able to show where I have said it because I haven't. And I am supposed to be off my head for saying what I haven't said now.
I suppose I will have highly praised BJ next like when Schmmee praised May for doing an amazing job. And you agreed with him. Yet not one of you has said why you think May did an amazing job.
Then you wonder why I call out people for their lies and misinformation frequently.
You are full of shit and getting worse. Yes you have finally got me wound up with your constant bullshit on what I am supposed to have said. Yet you never show where I have said the words you say I have. That is because I never have done. All you do is put another load of bullshit together like this post I am replying to.Your statement is quite frankly absurd and is impossible to prove and is based upon your opinion.
Everyday people like you and I are reflected by the general mood of a country.
As I said though, name somewhere where there is anti EU sentiment growing outside of the UK based upon the EU’s actions.
Go on, back it up for a change. Where is this happening?
I’m actually shocked you’ve moved your family over to the EU when you seem to spend so much time on here ranting about it.
I think Brexit is a disaster but actually suggested an alternative in the EEA route as a compromise and that would have been sensible in the long term, whereas you’ve just spent the last few years ranting about the EU and remain voters, while claiming to see the POV of both sides while changing your mind at various occasions.
Nothing wrong in that though of course, it’ll be one of the most defining moments in our lives.
I don’t attack your posts or call you out because it’s you but because of your inconsistencies and contradictions in what you post.
Your statement is quite frankly absurd and is impossible to prove and is based upon your opinion.
Everyday people like you and I are reflected by the general mood of a country.
As I said though, name somewhere where there is anti EU sentiment growing outside of the UK based upon the EU’s actions.
Go on, back it up for a change. Where is this happening?
I’m actually shocked you’ve moved your family over to the EU when you seem to spend so much time on here ranting about it.
I think Brexit is a disaster but actually suggested an alternative in the EEA route as a compromise and that would have been sensible in the long term, whereas you’ve just spent the last few years ranting about the EU and remain voters, while claiming to see the POV of both sides while changing your mind at various occasions.
Nothing wrong in that though of course, it’ll be one of the most defining moments in our lives.
I don’t attack your posts or call you out because it’s you but because of your inconsistencies and contradictions in what you post.
You are full of shit and getting worse. Yes you have finally got me wound up with your constant bullshit on what I am supposed to have said. Yet you never show where I have said the words you say I have. That is because I never have done. All you do is put another load of bullshit together like this post I am replying to.
So I ask again. Why did you agree with Shmmeee when he said May had done an amazing job? Because all you ever did was have a go at her. It just shows you don't care how much you contradict yourself to have a go at me or others.
You don't want a debate. You just want to dictate to everyone what they should think.
Thought this was project fear?
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A survey carried out in April 2018 for the European Parliament by Kantar Public consulting found that support for the EU in Germany (and the UK) had dropped by about 2% since the previous survey.
And it is ironic isn't it that you say you are shocked by Astute moving his family to an EU country given the time he spends on here ranting about it...especially since you have moved to an EU country, & spend so much time ranting about Brexit?
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You do realise he’s trying to actually aim that at the Eu automotive suppliers as much as anything else?
A survey carried out in April 2018 for the European Parliament by Kantar Public consulting found that support for the EU in Germany (and the UK) had dropped by about 2% since the previous survey.
And it is ironic isn't it that you say you are shocked by Astute moving his family to an EU country given the time he spends on here ranting about it...especially since you have moved to an EU country, & spend so much time ranting about Brexit?
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Are EU automotive suppliers involved in the negotiations?
You do realise, as usual, you’re diverting rather than face up to any failure by the leavers?
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No I’m stating the fact is he is saying Eu suppliers will not be able to distribute goods through. Some if them are not huge and some have well over half their revenue from uk automotive suppliers so they will go down very quickly. Shame the Eu are happy to destroy lives to flatter their own egos
What are you even arguing? You could have just said you didn’t mean countries but large groups of people grouped socially and economically. The reasonable thing to ask in reply to your original point was to suggest a country unhappy with the EU as governments and MEPs of said countries are the ones acting on behalf of individuals.
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No I’m stating the fact is he is saying Eu suppliers will not be able to distribute goods through. Some if them are not huge and some have well over half their revenue from uk automotive suppliers so they will go down very quickly. Shame the Eu are happy to destroy lives to flatter their own egos
Why are you telling me this?In other words, a change within the margin of error. The EU just wants to know what the hell we’re doing so they can prepare either way. It’s us that needs to act, not them
What I do agree with Bojo on is that by taking no deal off the table (or out of the equation if you prefer that term) - it ties your own hands in negotiations...which is why Bojo has said by pressuring for a deal only exit it makes it more likely we don't get an acceptable deal!
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Oh, you’re back. Want to carry on the economic debate?
Bazza, I don’t agree. No deal will damage us more than the EU. The EU are more prepared for no deal than we are.
The idea we can play chicken with the EU around no deal is, I think, extremely misguided. Not least by the fact that (as acknowledged by leavers) you are also playing chicken with parliament and at least half of the population of the U.K.
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The Eu actually are not anymore prepared at all as they’ve admitted it was never happening. The other huge headache is that we won’t oat the £39 billion as much of that was actually for the 18 month post exit period so there will be significant re-budgeting across many countries who can’t afford it
What do you mean they’ve admitted it was never happening? They seem to have done a lot more prep than us having pilot tested systems and are actually passing law and legislation. Something we haven’t done and now don’t have time to do.
We might not legally owe some of it but that’s open to interpretation and legal challenge. It will also then become our biggest headache once the EU use it as leverage for future arrangements.
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Sure can. How would you cope with a run on the pound which would happen if Gezza gets in? He’s already also promised his Marxist mate another referendum so how would that work for you?
Barrier has admitted a no leave option was never discussed with May and never taken seriously
Of course some countries will be horribly impacted as major suppliers would be bust. We can devalue currency and that alone will in the short term bridge any gap for exporters - the Eu countries are tied to a strategy that benefits some at the expense of others
And then there’s the budget shortfall...
Corbyn is seen as the enemy by the labour MPs - the Sinn Fein suck up doesn’t represent the millions of voters - represents a rag tag bunch of anarchists who want to destroy the country
Why are you telling me this?
Both sides need to look at the situation & put their heads together to arrive at a solution & acceptable deal. That is something I have said will happen all along as no deal is in nobody's interest.
What I do agree with Bojo on is that by taking no deal off the table (or out of the equation if you prefer that term) - it ties your own hands in negotiations...which is why Bojo has said by pressuring for a deal only exit it makes it more likely we don't get an acceptable deal!
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The pound has already taken quite a beating in the last few years and your mate has reduced it to virtually 1:1 with the Euro. Why is it that when right wing economics is allowed to go the whole hog it has caused the most severe worldwide financial crises?
I've just looked at the survey, can you clarify what you're on about here as it looks like you've just cherry picked some numbers to meA survey carried out in April 2018 for the European Parliament by Kantar Public consulting found that support for the EU in Germany (and the UK) had dropped by about 2% since the previous survey.
And it is ironic isn't it that you say you are shocked by Astute moving his family to an EU country given the time he spends on here ranting about it...especially since you have moved to an EU country, & spend so much time ranting about Brexit?
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It’s nothing to do with right wing economics that’s your rather deluded perception
I've just looked at the survey, can you clarify what you're on about here as it looks like you've just cherry picked some numbers to me
No deal represents the wishes of a few self-serving individuals like the ERG who stand to make a pretty penny out of it and are willing to cause massive problems to get it.
A survey carried out in April 2018 for the European Parliament by Kantar Public consulting found that support for the EU in Germany (and the UK) had dropped by about 2% since the previous survey.
What were the root causes of the Wall St Crash and the 2008 global recession? What do you think Trump’s economic agenda is going to result in?
Trickle down economics doesn’t work-the empirical evidence is overwhelming
The same causes that have provided wonderful opportunities in the intervening decades - prosperity, improved technology and opportunity - of course there would be no crash in a socialist state as there would be nothing to crash from
There is not a socialist country on earth that is a successful comparison to capitalism (right wing economics to you) - why don’t you move to Caracas and enjoy the equal (lack of) opportunity for all society that it is?
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