Again you’re assuming everyone who criticises leave is a diehard labour/Corbyn fan. Most in this thread are not.
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Never mind it will all be OK.
Labour will make it law that nobody has to work more than 35 hours and will make jobs for those who don't have one. Not sure what will happen to those on minimum wage though.
I see that the rumours about Boris trying to get May’s Mk1 deal through have hit a rock DUP denies changing position on Brexit
Mind you knowing Boris he probably asked her in their private meeting to reconsider a border in the sea and she said no, then when asked later by his aids and advisor if she said yes, knowing that they wanted to hear was yes he just told them yes and hey presto out comes this story.
Yep, all the Tories/DUPs fault !The sooner somebody has the balls to fuck off the DUP, to tell leavers Brexit isn’t going to be an unmitigated success and will involve some loss and compromise, fucks the ERG off and accepts that the tories are going to have to take some damage and can’t remain unified the sooner a practical solution will be found and this will be over.
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Strange reply.Again you’re assuming everyone who criticises leave is a diehard labour/Corbyn fan. Most in this thread are not.
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I certainly missed where it was announced as Labour policy, have you got a link to that as the one you've provided just says 'Labour could implement a 35-hour working week if they won the next general election, the shadow chancellor has claimed'.Did you miss where it was announced? Max 35 hours a week and jobs for the jobless. Work for the government which would be Labour.
Labour Party to push for four-day working week | Metro News
I certainly missed where it was announced as Labour policy, have you got a link to that as the one you've provided just says 'Labour could implement a 35-hour working week if they won the next general election, the shadow chancellor has claimed'.
Of course this all stems from Warwick Uni's Professor Lord Skidelsky's report, is there anything in particular in the report you think is incorrect?
Care to expand?The 35 hour week for a start
The 35 hour week for a start
Care to expand?
Errr...'Tory party' there is one for a start
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Yep, all the Tories/DUPs fault !
It’s like banging my head against a brick wall on this site. The labour MP moderates could’ve/would’ve gladly waived through Mays deal, which by common consensus was a reasonable compromise (if only the the length of the backstop could be resolved it’s as good as we’ll get) but haven’t because the party wanted an election...which it has now turned down
I can see that, most of the country can see that (hence labours awful polling when up against a pretty embarrassingly poor government), I just wished a few more here would acknowledge their part in this mess !
Mock it all you like...THAT is very simplistically how business works.
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No it isn't. In fact the report states that the 35 hour cap in France has been ineffectual.It’s a suggestion to cap a 35 hour week isn’t it?
No it isn't. In fact the report states that the 35 hour cap in France has been ineffectual.
And 'this being a fair while ago' makes it alright? Like the Crusades is now alright? The cause of the troubles in NI...now alright? Etc
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What are you talking about here? Why are you comparing a vote for an independent in a LE to the Crusades or The Troubles?
https://progressiveeconomyforum.com...lsky_How_to_achieve_shorter_working_hours.pdfSo it’s nothing to do with a 35 hour week? I thought it was some madcap idea about reducing hours and keeping pay in the public sector and employing more people
https://progressiveeconomyforum.com...lsky_How_to_achieve_shorter_working_hours.pdf
Not had chance to read it fully, only skimmed over it but the jist of it seems to be that working hours have been falling since the industrial revolution but this has stopped in recent years. Suggestion is that the public sector is in a position to kickstart that by implementing a 35 hour week itself and then, via its significant buying power, have that extend to suppliers and contractors by favouring those who also work to lower the hours in a working week.
There is part of the report about achieving total employment by making the government an 'employer of last resort', the theory being payment for non-work is replaced with payment for work. However the report acknowledges this would be difficult to roll out and would need to be done gradually so that issues can be identified and corrected. The suggestion is to start with areas of high unemployment and poverty.
His report has gone against the idea. But you will know this. McDonnell also wants to stop people from opting out of the EU maximum 48 hours work a week rule. So taking the choice away. A lot of people need to work as much as they can just to survive or even just for the occasional extra treat.I certainly missed where it was announced as Labour policy, have you got a link to that as the one you've provided just says 'Labour could implement a 35-hour working week if they won the next general election, the shadow chancellor has claimed'.
Of course this all stems from Warwick Uni's Professor Lord Skidelsky's report, is there anything in particular in the report you think is incorrect?
When did you vote for the greens out of interest?
Why are you taking such an interest in who I voted for and when. Why does it matter?
FYI I've voted Green in a couple of LE, including the last one, and once in 2010 for GE. Only reason I remember the year was because I intended to vote LD but it's the one time I've made a decision based on the individual candidate. The LD candidate just came across as very untrustworthy and condescending and I couldn't vote for him as an individual. He later got done for fraud.
Just wondered if it was when they were anti Eu
Out of interest did you vote Tory when they were pro EU?
Pretty irrelevant as there were no parties that were electable that offered the alternative
Unlike you I never saw UKIP as a real option
Even though Nigel is “the man”?
His report has gone against the idea. But you will know this. McDonnell also wants to stop people from opting out of the EU maximum 48 hours work a week rule. So taking the choice away. A lot of people need to work as much as they can just to survive or even just for the occasional extra treat.
I am averaging about 72 hours a week when at work since January. I have just worked 168 hours in 14 days. Totally through choice. It will make sure I can retire at 55. Some people want to work more. Some people need to work more. It shouldn't be taken away by anyone.
Did I say all ?Ahh so it’s all the minority oppositions fault. I get ya.
A lot of people need to work as much as they can just to survive
Yep, all the Tories/DUPs fault !
It’s like banging my head against a brick wall on this site. The labour MP moderates could’ve/would’ve gladly waived through Mays deal, which by common consensus was a reasonable compromise (if only the the length of the backstop could be resolved it’s as good as we’ll get) but haven’t because the party wanted an election...which it has now turned down
I can see that, most of the country can see that (hence labours awful polling when up against a pretty embarrassingly poor government), I just wished a few more here would acknowledge their part in this mess !
The reality is that the Tories own Brexit, end of story.
They have floated an idea.... not necessarily a good one maybe, but at least it’s ideas about how to do things differently in what is becoming an automated world. He will have more ideas - good, bad, indifferent - throw them out there and see what people think. Since when is getting feedback a bad thing?
However I don’t see the Tories bringing anything to the table EVER.. what’s the last idea they brought forward? Dementia Tax?
Throw ideas out and see what the public thinks?They have floated an idea.... not necessarily a good one maybe, but at least it’s ideas about how to do things differently in what is becoming an automated world. He will have more ideas - good, bad, indifferent - throw them out there and see what people think. Since when is getting feedback a bad thing?
However I don’t see the Tories bringing anything to the table EVER.. what’s the last idea they brought forward? Dementia Tax?
Retirement age pushed back to 75. That was put out by a think tank the other week.
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