SIR ERNIE
Well-Known Member
Hope so Dutch.
And then another 90 day extension!
And then another 90 day extension!
Why would we want another extension?? Lets leave on the 31st!And then another 90 day extension!
Another referendum won't piss people off?Because we can do in 90 days what we haven’t been able to do in decades and come up with a workable proposal that doesn’t reopen The Troubles?
This is why we need a referendum. Politicians won’t break cover and pick who to piss off.
31st of November is looking favourite.Why would we want another extension?? Lets leave on the 31st!
Another referendum won't piss people off?
A trade deal with the EU would stop the need for the bullshit of the backstop. But we are not allowed to talk trade until the Ireland problem is solved. Why is this?
I'll believe a multiple proven liar thenI don't lecture anymore. What I am doing is refusing to glibly accept what you appear to glibly accept.
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Britain has no intention of leaving, ever.Why would we want another extension?? Lets leave on the 31st!
Another referendum won't piss people off?
A trade deal with the EU would stop the need for the bullshit of the backstop. But we are not allowed to talk trade until the Ireland problem is solved. Why is this?
The problem is the first referendum was badly designed and has lead to this mess where any decision can be painted as a political mistake and not the will of the people if it goes wrong.
LIVE: 'Best way to honour murdered MP Jo Cox is to get Brexit done', says Boris Johnson
Whatever side you're on, surely you have to agree this is beyond shocking.
If you want to you can.I'll believe a multiple proven liar then
I'm beginning to think there's no limit to what people will accept from him. Trump said he could shoot someone and not lose any votes and it's starting to seem the same with Johnson.He can say whatever he wants and the usual sycophants will defend him
The snippet itself looks shocking, couldn't agree more.LIVE: 'Best way to honour murdered MP Jo Cox is to get Brexit done', says Boris Johnson
Whatever side you're on, surely you have to agree this is beyond shocking.
And then another 90 day extension!
Somehow he's managing to be worse than I thought he would be!
He's pretty much exactly what I expected. Still cannot believe how they put him there given his endless list of gaffes...he played them all well in the leadership election, & I have a suspiscion he's doing the same again with Parliament.Somehow he's managing to be worse than I thought he would be!
They have talked but not negotiated. Massive difference.
We have talked trade though, they’ve bent on that demand. And no it wouldn’t at all. We’d still have the same choice we’ve got to Male now. You’re taking the Boris line of “I’m sure we’ll figure it out” when all evidence suggests otherwise.
The problem is the first referendum was badly designed and has lead to this mess where any decision can be painted as a political mistake and not the will of the people if it goes wrong.
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Labours position is to not have a position. Corbyn has sat on the fence so long that he must have a whole tree up his arse.
Everything Corbyn has said he wants has changed. Out of the EU became stay in the EU. Calling for a GE became turning down a GE when offered.
The Lib Dems were finished as a party of choice. They laid their cards on the table as remain. They are now the second party because of this. People are now unsure of what Labour wants. So if they want remain they have the Lib Dems. If they want leave they have the Tories. But there again I suppose if they are still unsure what they want they have Labour.
You are funny.So you’re against a policy of trying somehow to unite 2 entrenched positions?
Normal time in parliament. They have now lost what is normally an extra holiday. And the rest of it is a normal day with their behaviour worse than you will find in most playgrounds.Good to see Parliament is utilising it’s non prorogued time wisely !
Not sure if anyone caught Gove’s Q&A about yellowhammer (the name still amuses me for some reason) but from the bits I saw I thought it was a sensible, considered and rightly challenging.......glad only *85 MPs bothered to attend when this is what they are apparently most concerned about. The rest of the day was point scoring and shouting from what I saw.
*Bercow commented on number, I didn’t attempt to count !
They have talked but not negotiated. Massive difference.
If there was a free trade agreement there would be no problem in Ireland at all. So if they negotiated a trade deal first they would know what would be needed.
Or is this the problem?
Wow.Because it’s illegal to negotiate a trade agreement while still bound by another, hence the transition period to legally remove us while keeping things stable and allowing a replacement to be negotiated.
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Wow.
Are you saying this is correct or have you just made it up?
OK lets try to keep to the truth for once. We can negotiate a trade deal with anyone we want in the world. We are not allowed to sign one until we have left the EU because of EU rules. We have several trade deals already negotiated for once we have left. So would you like ti rethink the reason why the EU won't negotiate before the Irish problem is resolved in their eyes?
And you also need to look up the difference between illegal and unlawful. They are not the same.
Come on then. Explain your comment on how negotiating a trade deal would be illegal.You were talking about trade with the E.U., yes we can, and have, started to negotiate with those outside the EU
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Come on then. Explain your comment on how negotiating a trade deal would be illegal.
I said about us negotiating with the EU. You called this illegal. Show just the slightest evidence for once.
Why can't you just be truthful? All I want is an honest debate. Not point scoring with lies and misinformation.
Lets put it another way. We reach an agreement on the Irish problem. Are you saying it would be illegal to talk trade with the EU until we have left the EU? Why is it illegal to talk trade with the EU but not illegal to talk trade with anyone else?
They have talked but not negotiated. Massive difference.
If there was a free trade agreement there would be no problem in Ireland at all. So if they negotiated a trade deal first they would know what would be needed.
Or is this the problem?
Come on then. Explain your comment on how negotiating a trade deal would be illegal.
I said about us negotiating with the EU. You called this illegal. Show just the slightest evidence for once.
Why can't you just be truthful? All I want is an honest debate. Not point scoring with lies and misinformation.
Lets put it another way. We reach an agreement on the Irish problem. Are you saying it would be illegal to talk trade with the EU until we have left the EU? Why is it illegal to talk trade with the EU but not illegal to talk trade with anyone else?
It is pretty appalling. They spout it as being a momentous issue but actually are wasting time debating the why's & wherefore's of what has already happened & could/should be put to bed for now. They need to crack on & sort things out. And I agree with what most think - ALL of them & indeed ALL of us would benefit the situation by choosing our words more carefully. Views across the spectrum are just so entrenched, it becomes easy to get frustrated at not being able to shift others' viewpoint. Perhaps more restraint & respect can stop the downward spiral?Good to see Parliament is utilising it’s non prorogued time wisely !
Not sure if anyone caught Gove’s Q&A about yellowhammer (the name still amuses me for some reason) but from the bits I saw I thought it was a sensible, considered and rightly challenging.......glad only *85 MPs bothered to attend when this is what they are apparently most concerned about. The rest of the day was point scoring and shouting from what I saw.
*Bercow commented on number, I didn’t attempt to count !
You have told me a few times now that I am wrong on the subject. Now you say you are not sure.Excuse me? I constantly use evidence where possible. Anytime I do you go quiet and disappear. I even quoted your own words back to you 3 times the other week and you didn’t even dignify it with a reply.
Still, happy to concede I’m wrong if I am as I’m on holiday and unable to research but it was reported as it was contested by various people.
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