SkyBlueDom26
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He's trying to do as much damage as possible before he goes next week
But these aren’t absurd. Virtually everything Bercow has done has been called beforehand by the vast majority of commentators.
I don’t particularly want to have to slowly explain everything like when we had to make you understand why there would need to be a border for Ireland and why it wouldn’t just be the EU putting it there.
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He's trying to do as much damage as possible before he goes next week
Shock didn't see that one coming, he's an absolute disgrace
Meant to be impartial... yet admits voting to remain in 2016
the Eu would have had to if we didn’t as that’s the rule of Belgium
You have no argument against my points. Fair enough live with the ultimate consequences
Joke Isn't it mate! Bring on the elections hopefully these remoaners get to see what the public really think of them when they lose their seats
Nope it’s nothing to do with the EU specifically as you well know after having it explained to you. That is why you’re not now daily repeating the rubbish of “we won’t be putting up a border”.
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But he's done nothing illegal. This is the equivalent of what Alexander did in proroguing parliament, a move which you wholeheartedly supported.
Personally I think this is also a bit of a dick move and the vote should've gone ahead today. But as I say he's not done anything illegal or he is not permitted to do in his remit.
Impartial in parliament. He is allowed an opinion and a vote in elections and referenda as a normal citizen. BTW you do realsie before becoming speaker he was a Tory? And hardly a liberal one at that.
I don’t need anything explaining - if the uk government refused to actually put up a border you know full well the EU would need to - as I’m sure you also are aware the Surrender Agreement of 1998 will not be breached either
I can’t wait for the general election and the inevitable manifesto commitment by Mr Corbyn regarding the union
Well given labours stance changes daily on this issue and the Ieader and the Brexit spokesman seem at odds with each other I’d say it’s very different to 2017 when the Labour Party opposed a second referendum and supported an exit from the EULike they did in 2017.....?
And as I’m sure you’re aware you are being intentionally disingenuous once again. Of course the EU would need a border, for the same reasons we would.
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I didn't bring up vetos Tony - you did...in some extremely obtuse way of acknowledging something that you must have though was wrong!
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I’m hardly being disingenuous am I? Also if there was a border as long everyone respects the law what’s the issue? Also read the Surrender Act - this is covered by the act of appeasement
Well yes you are. As was explained to you a few weeks ago clearly everyone won’t respect the law and it isn’t just about law but also meeting obligations of the various trade agreements and being a position to negotiate new ones.
As I’ve said, we’ve been through all this so please stop playing these silly games.
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That's exactly the point. He was legally required to send it yet kept claiming he wouldn't. Playing to the gallery again while saying something different in private as was revealed in the Scottish courts.Boris was literally forced to send it.
Virtually everything the govt have done has been called beforehand too.But these aren’t absurd. Virtually everything Bercow has done has been called beforehand by the vast majority of commentators.
I don’t particularly want to have to slowly explain everything like when we had to make you understand why there would need to be a border for Ireland and why it wouldn’t just be the EU putting it there.
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I don’t see why you keep saying explained to you and why you refuse to answer my points
what page of the surrender agreement resolved the issue out of interest?
That's exactly the point. He was legally required to send it yet kept claiming he wouldn't. Playing to the gallery again while saying something different in private as was revealed in the Scottish courts.
Not sure how many times that has to happen before the penny will finally drop for some people.
Well given labours stance changes daily on this issue and the Ieader and the Brexit spokesman seem at odds with each other I’d say it’s very different to 2017 when the Labour Party opposed a second referendum and supported an exit from the EU
Every one of these absurd interventions increases the chance of a Tory government at the next election
What points? You haven’t raised any, you just keep banging on about not having a border when this was patiently explained to you weeks ago.
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Virtually everything the govt have done has been called beforehand too.
People are underestimated "stupid" Boris & his team of advisors. I reckon at the moment (for the foreseeable future) in the eyes of the majority the govt is entirely justified in blaming parliament should we leave without a deal! That equals sympathy vote come the GE
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According to Kiar Starmer on Andrew Marr yesterday the opposition believes that the deal has a trap door for a no deal brexit and as Boris and co’s reputations go before them no one trusts them to vote for the deal and then the legislation required to complete it. Thus forcing a no deal brexit, by “accident” of course.I don’t believe this is the case at all Tony (it’s also in the hands of the house whether it gets through or not)
Your earlier post is correct though, the government will go through the legislation voting route so it doesn’t make a major difference whether Bercow allowed a vote today or not (he was never going to). Not sure what harm it would’ve done to have allowed a vote today mind.
No I raised 3 points today. Now one asked which page of the surrender agreement covers this border issue - so that’s 4 oh wise one
Agree SBD...not a great move and as someone said earlier will be used by government (to gain sympathy)
As speaker, and supposedly impartial, he should be keeping his opinion neutral in public (which he hasn’t and is my main issue with him).
Parliament who keep trying to legislate to stop no deal? Yes definitely their fault if we leave without one...
I mean for fucks sake man
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No deal is a playground term that has no meaning
I’m not wasting my time arguing your conspiracy theories about the Supreme Court.
I don’t know what agreement you’re referring to as you insist on acting like a petulant child and calling it the “surrender agreement”. Regardless, it doesn’t matter because I haven’t claimed any agreement covers a border issue. I merely pointed out that a few of us explained the border issues to you a few weeks ago. I know it finally hit home because you were very quiet for a few days afterwards.
I have shown you plenty of patience on numerous occasions but today I am done with your nonsense.
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So is Brexit......
No deal is a playground term that has no meaning
well it means leave the EU
So when confronted with facts you cannot answer - well done
Well you’re right about one thing yet your heroes keep using it anyway.
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You haven’t given any facts.
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