Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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That comment is, I'm afraid, the sign of a man who has lost the battle.
This thread just keeps going round and round.
At least there will be the extra £350m a week for the NHS and we will all have more money in our pockets.
Come on Bazza, you should know the drill by now. The goalposts have since moved.
We haven't actually left yet, so the bad stuff is actually going to kick in after that.
It never existed. It was simply in or out, and out is what is now probably classed as 'hard'.
Soft Brexit was a term invited by Remainers to help them try and get a bit of what they want. Can't say I blame them though.
so you think theres no ambiguity about its meaning amo g oeople who voted brexit or even the negotuating team itself?
How much do we pay a week into the EU as a member state?
have you actually read the whole article? Not that grwat news though I dont think anyone can say whether thats down to brexit or not.
A little, but no where near as much as a lot of remainers would like you to think. Muddying the waters has been a deliberate tactic to cause confusion and uncertainty about the decision and where we go. Undermining Brexit if you like... It has been a smart tactic to be fair.
Plenty of ambiguity among those who voted to stay in, too.so you think theres no ambiguity about its meaning amo g oeople who voted brexit or even the negotuating team itself?
Plenty of ambiguity among those who voted to stay in, too.
Madness to suggest there's a black & white, and Cameron's biggest stupid mistake to frame the question in that way. Even among those who stayed in there'd be a brioad spectrum from those who thought better the devil you know, to committed European Federalists... with all those in between.
A little, but no where near as much as a lot of remainers would like you to think. Muddying the waters has been a deliberate tactic to cause confusion and uncertainty about the decision and where we go. Undermining Brexit if you like... It has been a smart tactic to be fair.
That comment is, I'm afraid, the sign of a man who has lost the battle.
This thread just keeps going round and round.
Brilliant. From the word go when BoJo and Gove got into a battle straight after the vote... the knives were out. Since then we have had infighting and contradictory statements and May described Brexit as meaning Brexit. A hollow phrase to be interpreted at will according to what you thought you were voting for. This is what has caused confusion and uncertainty. It has nothing to do with remainers in general.
The Brexiteers cannot agree on what Brexit means..mainly because they never thought things through and haven't got a clue where this is all going, and keep telling themselves it will be alright on the night.
We have Trump on one side and Brexit here. Comedy 24 hours a day. Glad I'm out f it.
you obviously havent been keeping abewast of the in fighting anong thenegotiating team and the briefing against each other. Nothing to do with rwmainers.
I will proudly remain an EU citizen thanks, you suckers are the ones who have signed your rights away.
Tell me lies tell me sweet little lies...
Leave Lies? Remainers Need To Look In The Mirror | HuffPost UK
But you're not out of it. You're on a footballing forum for hours each day, not talking about football, but getting feisty about Brexit.
The confusion is coming from people like you, because you don't want it. Yes, Gove and Boris were on one side, but there were hundreds on the other. I really don't understand why you cannot see things from both sides.
Kings gave a good description of what he voted for when he left, and mainly that is a wholesome 'out of the EU'. No half and half shit. Since all the harassment and tears from Remain, a middle deal which incorporates a bit of the best of both has been hounded around as quite fashionable. People such as yourselves can say all they want about it being uncertainty from what leave voters actually want. However, anything other than an actual Brexit (that's a hard one), would be something you would be extremely happy with.
you dobCome on Grendel.
The Leave side were the real ones telling lies. Remain was wholesome and honest throughout!*
*Spoiler: If they had been, they would have won easily.
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No. There is no serious football at the moment. I am not on for hours. And, no I would not be extremely happy with anything except remain and reform. Which explains why I am fiesty..
I would have taken Remain and reform most likely.
The sad thing is I think that avenue was explored when Cameron came back from Brussels with fuck all and it kind of made it feel like that route wasn't an option anymore.
That's not what everybody voted for.Kings gave a good description of what he voted for when he left
But the point is it was never explained in nuance what leave actually *meant*.Only difference being we would have kept the status quo which could have evolved and needed to be reformed - as opposed to a leap in the dark. So the differences in direction didn't matter as much......
That's not what everybody voted for.
Only desperate extremists would suggest otherwise!
Nope, what people are saying is that 'leave' can take many forms.But what is trying to be said is that people 'voted to leave, but not to leave.'
Sorry, it's just hash.
Don't lie. You've been in the City Arms for breakfast haven't you!
Then why are you behaving like this if you think you've won?
The bottom line is that the whole remain campaign was a negative campaign attempting to use fear and uncertainty as a means of getting votes.
From the outset it knew Britain was anti Europe. The definable benefits are negligible.
Britain is essentially a middle ground country. It doesn't like socialism and it doesn't like facism - other European countries are more extreme and right wing factions more popular.
The Eu is a right wing undemocratic quango in effect.
The campaign couldn't be positive as there were no benefits do it lied and frightened people.
We made the correct decision. We fought against rule from a third reich and this is the peacetime equivalent.
In years to come history will mock the remainers and the lies and fear tactics.
After your sneering election predictions, this will be your second Michael Fish moment.
For all we know we may have prospered even more outside of the EU over the same time...we will never know.For 40 years right wing papers have been bleating about the common market, EEC and EU. We as a country have quietly got on becoming wealthier and living and trading with our European partners.
Now the boot is in the other foot. Brexit is a leap in the dark and people who are for something that has allowed us to prosper and have a voice in Europe are being criticised for critising this leap in the dark. Get used to it.
There is going to be a lot more moaning as this pans out.
Yes...coz that emergency budget within 24hrs is what has seen us through relatively unscathed so far isn't it?Come on Grendel.
The Leave side were the real ones telling lies. Remain was wholesome and honest throughout!*
*Spoiler: If they had been, they would have won easily.
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