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On the plus side, Nissan are hanging around!
On the plus side, Nissan are hanging around!
Good to have some positive news, although not entirely sure how its a result of Brexit.On the plus side, Nissan are hanging around!
Doesn't that just mean those in the UK have to do the same as those in the EU? Or does he mean an advantage compared to crashing out with no deal.The advantage comes because it is not reliant on batteries imported from east Asia, unlike many of its rivals. From 2027 all British and European carmakers will have to source batteries from either the UK or EU, as agreed in the Brexit deal, or face tariffs on their exports.
That is a plus because that would have been catastrophic for that region.
The fact they voted leave and put it at risk is baffling to me.
Im gonna go out on a limb and say Labour’s distancing itself from the working class meant they were desperate for representation and bought the lies of the first charlatan to offer it.
There is a big gap between being an EU member and where we are now.Any working man who buys into the myth that the Tories are looking out for his interests needs a serious word with himself. Though I know you're probably in agreement.
And I'll reiterate what I've said many times in this thread, that doesn't mean I think the EU are his bosom buddy but the far lesser of two neo liberal evils.
There is a big gap between being an EU member and where we are now.
We could have achieved relatively frictionless trade without being a member but the hard right fucked it.
The media hasn't helped at all with their simplism, journalists like Kuenssberg and Peston reporting like it's gossip rather than laying out the reality of the UK position.
Still, despite what will be increasingly shown to be a terrible deal, I suspect that a significant number of people will just dig in with their entrenched views and support for the govt, similar to the Tories on here in the face of 100k deaths from covid.
From memory, May wanted a closer relationship/alignment and included commitment in her withdrawal agreement but ERG and DUP voted against it, as did a majority of labour/opposition.
Rather than accept what could be the least worst proposal (for remainers) the opposition decided to go all out, for what, I’m not sure. Same as the EU, probably a bit of flexibility with May regarding NI/Ireland might’ve been enough at one stage (same as when Cameron went with his begging bowl). The end outcomes could have been very different
It’s easy to blame ERG (I’ve got no time for them, most appear to be a bit weird and seemed to want an ideological solution that was impossible to deliver) but throughout this there have been plenty of others able to influence the ultimate outcome. However, they also continued pushing for their own ideological solution/outcome, May ends up out the door (probably for the best as she was poor) and the power was given to Johnson and the harder Brexiteers, with most of the rest of the country just wanting things done.
Sometimes you’ve got to be careful what you wish for and accept a proposal even if it’s not what you ideally want, as it’s better than what might happen if you don’t.
Me, well my personal view for what it’s worth is that many of these initial bumps/issues will be resolved. What happens in the longer term, who knows. If you listen to James Obrien the country will turn shit, if you read recent CEBR forecasts we will be well ahead of France economy in the coming years. I never really trust long term economic forecasts, way too many variables (especially in these strange times) so I just see that it’s up to all us to make the best of it.
Mays red lines always meant hard brexit or no Brexit. It wasn’t the opposition who decided that.
The inability for this government or its supporters to accept responsibility for governing is stunning. They’ve been in power for ten years. They’ve had a majority through all of that. It’s not anyone else’s fault what they choose to do.
Mays red lines always meant hard brexit or no Brexit. It wasn’t the opposition who decided that.
The inability for this government or its supporters to accept responsibility for governing is stunning. They’ve been in power for ten years. They’ve had a majority through all of that. It’s not anyone else’s fault what they choose to do.
Campaigning for the fishermen facing bankruptcy as we speak.Not heard from Nigel Mirage for a while. Where’s he gone?
Campaigning for the fishermen facing bankruptcy as we speak.
Yes but leaving the EU didn't mean that we had to go down the ridiculous path we have. The lunatics have made Brexit to be only the hardest self punishment possible. Stupid stupid wankers. "Only 43%" of our trade as if it is a trivial number. For many sectors they export exclusively to the EU, they're all fucked.
Yes things will change. Stuff will cost more. That’s the “change” thats “people adapting”. Just calling it change and adaptation doesn’t change that. Stop avoiding that point. You aren’t a politician. Why do you think every nation on earth is working to reduce trade barriers especially to their neighbours?
Ive not mischaracterised your point, you don’t understand it yourself. You’re just spouting vague nonsense in hope.
same with “growth” “advancements”. It’s just bollocks. I don’t know if you’re just parroting something you’ve heard or genuinely believe it but it’s the words of charlatans.
Globalisation doesn’t change how long it takes to move things across the world FFS. Time sensitive stuff will always be better closer and it will always cost both in finance, time and global warming to ship shit across the planet. We are some way from teleportation even in the 21st century.
Again, no serious economist believes the crap you’re spouting. It fairytale nonsense told to people who don’t know better to make them feel better. Like Santa for kids.
“oh only half our trade”
“smaller things are growing more than the large well developed relationship. Iamverysmartbutclearlydontunderstandthedifferencebetweengrowthandabsolutesize”
Fuck me I can’t believe people are still saying this shit with a straight face.
There is a big gap between being an EU member and where we are now.
We could have achieved relatively frictionless trade without being a member but the hard right fucked it.
The media hasn't helped at all with their simplism, journalists like Kuenssberg and Peston reporting like it's gossip rather than laying out the reality of the UK position.
Still, despite what will be increasingly shown to be a terrible deal, I suspect that a significant number of people will just dig in with their entrenched views and support for the govt, similar to the Tories on here in the face of 100k deaths from covid.
From memory, May wanted a closer relationship/alignment and included commitment in her withdrawal agreement but ERG and DUP voted against it, as did a majority of labour/opposition.
Rather than accept what could be the least worst proposal (for remainers) the a majority of those in the opposition parties decided to go all out, for what, I’m not sure. Same as the EU, probably a bit of flexibility with May regarding NI/Ireland might’ve been enough at one stage (same as when Cameron went with his begging bowl). The end outcomes could have been very different
It’s easy to blame ERG (I’ve got no time for them, most appear to be a bit weird and seemed to want an ideological solution that was impossible to deliver) but throughout this there have been plenty of others able to influence the ultimate outcome. However, they also continued pushing for their own ideological solution/outcome, May ends up out the door (probably for the best as she was poor) and the power was given to Johnson and the harder Brexiteers, with most of the rest of the country just wanting it done and out the way.
Sometimes you’ve got to be careful what you wish for and accept a proposal even if it’s not what you ideally want, as it’s better than what might happen if you don’t.
Me, well my personal view for what it’s worth is that many of these initial bumps/issues will be resolved. What happens in the longer term, who knows. If you listen to James Obrien the country will turn shit, if you read recent CEBR forecasts we will be well ahead of France economy (as in 5/6th largest) in the coming years. I never really trust long term economic forecasts, way too many variables (especially in these strange times) so I just see that it’s up to all us to make the best of it.
this fellas resolving his 'initial bump', he's moving his operation to France.
Cheshire cheesemaker says business left with £250,000 'Brexit hole'
Simon Spurrell says his firm lost 20% of sales and will switch £1m investment to Francewww.theguardian.com
Ah well
Brexit has given competitive edge on car battery tariffs, says Nissan chief
Owner of UK’s largest car factory to push ahead with new Qashqai and says UK leaving the EU has been positive for the companywww.google.co.uk
That's good news, I'm sure the 61 million bung helped (which I don't begrudge at all if it means then staying).
But a business staying put doesn't really negate the problems surrounding the business in the article I linked or the problems being experienced by the fishing industry which was supposed to be sailing into a bright new dawn (excuse the pun).
I’m sure the fishing industry is breathing a sigh of relief on that one.Ah well
Brexit has given competitive edge on car battery tariffs, says Nissan chief
Owner of UK’s largest car factory to push ahead with new Qashqai and says UK leaving the EU has been positive for the companywww.google.co.uk
Oh no. All those additional costs on fruit and veg will now only let me afford Big Macs!Wasn’t fruit supposed to be get cheaper once we left the EU?
Brexit tariffs totalling £100,000 slapped on Fairtrade bananas from Africa
Exclusive: Liz Truss under pressure to explain why punishing levies being charged - despite announcement that UK-Ghana deal was struckwww.google.co.uk Brexit price hikes on fruit and veg ‘could affect menus from top chefs’
New red tape in place on imports since January 1 has already sent plant, fruit and vegetable import prices soaring by up to 10% at London's New Covent Garden Market, the Standard has learnedwww.google.co.uk
When things like this are presented as the benefits of Brexit I find it quite concerning. Its the same as when signing a continuation agreement, ie: continuing to have the same terms we had as an EU member, is flagged as a success for the government. Are the expectations for Brexit now so low that we are celebrating things being no worse than they were before?But a business staying put doesn't really negate the problems surrounding the business in the article I linked or the problems being experienced by the fishing industry which was supposed to be sailing into a bright new dawn (excuse the pun).
Not sure how, from that, Nissan has a benefit by being in the UK over any other EU country.The advantage comes because it is not reliant on batteries imported from east Asia, unlike many of its rivals. From 2027 all British and European carmakers will have to source batteries from either the UK or EU, as agreed in the Brexit deal, or face tariffs on their exports.
According to one “demigod”
Ex-Marillion singer Fish lays into government over EU Brexit touring fiasco
Marillon's Fish has laid into the government regarding the ongoing EU touring situation following Brexit for UK artists.www.nme.com
It's mental, what is clever about it according to the express?So, to acquire the promised post Brexit sunlit uplands you need...
The Express is trying to sell this as a “Clever Ploy”Move to EU to avoid Brexit costs, firms told | Brexit | The Guardian
Exporters advised by Department for International Trade officials to form EU-based companies to circumvent border issuesamp.theguardian.com
Absolutely nothing. But it’s the express, they’re in denial of the realities of Brexit. If Brexit meant everyone in the the U.K. left leg fell off the Express headline would Brexit saves on the cost of socks.It's mental, what is clever about it according to the express?
Sweet Lord. Some of the replies are hilarious.
Dig for victory. Not sure what the victory is though.Sweet Lord. Some of the replies are hilarious.
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