Yes.So you are in effect saying Cameron and Juncker should be investigated as they both knew what was going on?
You know what he is saying.Who is Rumpy Pumpy? And does this mean the UK is allowed to give certain firms tax dodging privileges? Is that your point?
Who is Rumpy Pumpy? And does this mean the UK is allowed to give certain firms tax dodging privileges? Is that your point?
Would any of you pro remainers like to make a comment about the last paragraph of this article? She is blaming our leaving on the EU being able to do what they want although we hardly get a say on anything.
EU chief Juncker plots for Chancellor for whole of Europe | Daily Mail Online
So Juncker wouldn't have pushed it through if the UK hadn't voted to leave?I thought we knew what we were voted for, we should have anticipated this and any other issue arising from Brexit surely?
So Juncker wouldn't have pushed it through if the UK hadn't voted to leave?
we were told leaving was going to be a doddle, surely if that isn't the case someone should have anticipated it?
Our MPs have let us down and lied to us, the EU acting the c**t is neither here nor there as far as I'm concerned.
edit - I'm talking about a different article!! Something else I had open.
You know Rumpy Pumpy - the free loading bank clerk with the personality of a damp rag
Would any of you pro remainers like to make a comment about the last paragraph of this article? She is blaming our leaving on the EU being able to do what they want although we hardly get a say on anything.
EU chief Juncker plots for Chancellor for whole of Europe | Daily Mail Online
Would any of you pro remainers like to make a comment about the last paragraph of this article? She is blaming our leaving on the EU being able to do what they want although we hardly get a say on anything.
EU chief Juncker plots for Chancellor for whole of Europe | Daily Mail Online
Would any of you pro remainers like to make a comment about the last paragraph of this article? She is blaming our leaving on the EU being able to do what they want although we hardly get a say on anything.
EU chief Juncker plots for Chancellor for whole of Europe | Daily Mail Online
How about commenting on the link then?we were told leaving was going to be a doddle, surely if that isn't the case someone should have anticipated it?
Our MPs have let us down and lied to us, the EU acting the c**t is neither here nor there as far as I'm concerned.
edit - I'm talking about a different article!! Something else I had open.
Make your mind up.We get a say appropriate to our size. I don’t know how this takes effect, if at all. Apart from anything else, Frau Merkel and the Fourth Reich have already said they don’t agree with some of the points. Just because the commission suggests a plan, doesn’t mean that it will happen. Anyway, what on earth are you worried about? You are sailing into the sunset as global Britain with trade deals all over the world. Whether the EU has a finance minister or not shouldn’t bother you. I think that some sort of coordination of budgets, taxes, policy etc. will have to come about eventually. All in favour of that and some form of USA non dependent form of defence is now necessary with the current USA policy of MAGA and screw the rest. Enjoying the benefits of border free travel and a single currency at the moment in Estonia.
Make your mind up.
You say we have less of a say as we are not in the Euro. Now you say it is down to size. Before you have said everyone has the same say.
We didn't want Juncker to get his position.I have never said everyone has the same say. I told you as an example how many MEPS UK had as opposed to Estonia. I also said we are up there with France, Germany and Italy. We have less say on finance in the Eurozone. You are the one who insists that we have no say and that Juncker is the boss of the EU.
How about commenting on the link then?
MP's always lie to us. Anyone with half a working braincell knows that. Remain lied. Leave lied. You only concentrate on leave though.
Irrelevant that they lied?because what remain did is irrelevant, we voted leave. Same as people banging on about Labours manifesto, they're not in government, not relevant.
Irrelevant that they lied?
You are sinking to new lows. Then you will be saying that you don't have biased views.
The remain lot lied to us. The leave lot lied to us. None of it is irrelevant.How did remain lie? The doom and gloom predictions could still happen we haven't left yet.
But the remain campaign is now irrelevant, what's important is negotiating the best exit deal we can.
The biggest lie of either side was the 350 mil NHS lie but you seem OK with that.
The remain lot lied to us. The leave lot lied to us. None of it is irrelevant.
Cameron said he was going to be having talks with Juncker. Juncker said no talks were planned and that there was going to be no talks. That was the PM lying to us. How can that be irrelevant?
Showing your true colours here :jawdrop:because we voted leave and all that matters now is getting through this as painfully as possible. Hopefully I've misread the whole situation and we'll get through it and thrive.
How did remain lie? The doom and gloom predictions could still happen we haven't left yet.
But the remain campaign is now irrelevant, what's important is negotiating the best exit deal we can.
The biggest lie of either side was the 350 mil NHS lie but you seem OK with that.
I would go for most politicians who moved their lips.and what is the relevance to Brexit negotiations?
You'll never convince me that the most dishonest campaign of the two was remain but Is who lied most in the referendum campaign relevant post vote?
and what is the relevance to Brexit negotiations?
You'll never convince me that the most dishonest campaign of the two was remain but Is who lied most in the referendum campaign relevant post vote?
If you won’t be convinced by actual facts presented for you to read then there is little point in continuing a discussion.
You can argue as much as you want. Both sides were dishonest. And none of it is irrelevant.what facts? You think there aren't hundreds of articles which put a case for the leave campaign being the most dishonest?
Just because you link an article it doesn't give it anymore gravitas.
You can argue as much as you want. Both sides were dishonest. And none of it is irrelevant.
But my point is that those on the remain side lied to us. Now some of them from the remain side are supposed to be sorting out us leaving. That makes it very relevant to me.I think it is, (just my opinion), in as much as none of it will have any bearing on what goes on over the next couple of years with regard to Brexit negotiations.
But my point is that those on the remain side lied to us. Now some of them from the remain side are supposed to be sorting out us leaving. That makes it very relevant to me.
How are we supposed to trust any of them?
We didn't want Juncker to get his position.
Whenever we wanted something we got outvoted. We have got nothing since Maggie.
So do you think all the countries in the EU are going to agree that their finances should be taken over by the EU? Will they be able to stop it?
Sounds to me like the EU getting a tighter grip on more countries. A central bank?
Oh yes sorry. Just remembered it is getting ignored by the pro EU lot.
And the biggest thing in the EU is finances. We pay for a large part of it. Yet you admit that there are countries that put much less in than us but get a bigger say.
I mentioned one of the lies that Cameron came out with. He came out with others and was also totally out of order with what he said. He was so disrespectful. And that was the PM. It was nothing to do with trade deals or that sort of thing. And you know it.Remain made false predictions..... but, not necessarily in all cases. Time will tell. We haven’t left yet, but things are not looking rosy. Leaving is proving more complicated than people believed or said. Nothing positive has happened yet. We have no deals, we are still paying into the EU and although EU citizens are leaving, we still havé a housing and infrastructure crisis. People are having to watch their pebbles a bit more as inflation kicks in.
I think it is, (just my opinion), in as much as none of it will have any bearing on what goes on over the next couple of years with regard to Brexit negotiations.
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