Not bad. In other words like the USA, but with more different traditions. Ireland will still be Ireland for example, but a member of a Federal system.
Not bad. In other words like the USA, but with more different traditions. Ireland will still be Ireland for example, but a member of a Federal system.Not necessarily but with one border, one currency, one law, one legal system, one police force, one army, one economic policy and one foreign policy.
If thats the case Sick, you can hardly blame the referendum being the catalyst. There are idiots who hate foreign people, there is nothing anyone can do to change that behavior. Likewise, I dare say there are plenty of Brits abroad that get abused - they are, after all, "foreigners" too.My partner was abused before and after the referendum result.
Seriously, when I go on holiday to Spain mainly I get called a stupid English prick and all sorts to do with where I come from by some taxi drivers and bar staff? Over nothing. Doesn't bother me by the way but it doesn't make me happy either.
What's this classed as?
Not bad. In other words like the USA, but with more different traditions. Ireland will still be Ireland for example, but a member of a Federal system.
Which is exactly why we have voted to leave and if that vision was presented to the uk electorate the vote to leave would have been far higher.
You seem the victim of indoctrination not those who read the sun.
What is in the Sun Grendel? That vision wasn't presented though and doesn't exist. Just speculation.
The sun has a circulation of under 2 million. Also federalism I find abhorrent and is why I voted leave. Couldn't care less about immigration but part of an undemocratic federalist government with the distinctly mediocre Merkel at the helm - count me and the majority of the UK out.
Nobody likes the UK anyway. Ample proof of that since they cashed in and turned Eurovision into a public vote.
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The only way it work 100% right !
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True. But it is a step in the right direction. Will never happen, though...
Why is it?
It is bad enough being run by the EU and people never elected by us. Now you think it is a good idea to be run by a different country. And the odds are that it would be Germany. You can forget that one. I am 100% against being run by Germany through the back door. I am British. I am proud of it. I want to be run by people voted in by ourselves. It doesn't matter if it is who I vote for or not. Just as long as I get a vote.
So which country do you think that a 'leader' would come from? And how many of us in the UK do you think would be happy to be fully ruled by someone from another country? I don't know anyone that would be. So if it happened hardly anyone would want it so how could you call it democracy?Who has suggested that Germany rules Britain ( Grendel was on a wind up about Merkel )? You can easily be British and proud of it and a member of the EU. If...... It ever got so far that a president of the EU 'rules' via an EU parliament 500 million people, then he will presumably be elected by the most votes ever counted, and you count that as undemocratic?
I see Farage has resigned as UKIP Leader then.
He'll be Foreign Secretary before you know it.
Seems something strange is happening here in Britain, first Cameron goes against his promises and resigns immeadiatly instead of staying on as leader as he first stated!!! Then Bojo decided he's not running for leader when he clearly led the brexit campaign to achieve his ambition to become tory leader!! Then out of the blue Farage stands down.....this is not even mentioning the labour party leadership struggles, makes one believe someone may be manipulating the Brithish politacal landscape.Or shadow foreign secretary. Shares the same views as Corbyn on foreign policy so why not.
Seems something strange is happening here in Britain, first Cameron goes against his promises and resigns immeadiatly instead of staying on as leader as he first stated!!! Then Bojo decided he's not running for leader when he clearly led the brexit campaign to achieve his ambition to become tory leader!! Then out of the blue Farage stands down.....this is not even mentioning the labour party leadership struggles, makes one believe someone may be manipulating the Brithish politacal landscape.
He'll be Foreign Secretary before you know it.
I don't think so - in fact I think he'll be a distant memory in 24 months time.
So which country do you think that a 'leader' would come from? And how many of us in the UK do you think would be happy to be fully ruled by someone from another country? I don't know anyone that would be. So if it happened hardly anyone would want it so how could you call it democracy?
you keep denying being a racist - even when no-one here said you were. But you say Germany runs the EU, that a president of a Federal EU would be German and rule Britain and that you are proud to be British - that's why you voted leave and followed the elite public schoolboys wishes.The most populated country in the EU is Germany. They have nearly 20m more people than the second largest which is France. All countries do not have the same say in what goes on.
So if all residents had the same say as you would like Germany would have the most residents to vote for their own people. The two people that seem to want this the most on here are Martcov and CCFC Germany. I wonder where you both live
The most populated country in the EU is Germany. They have nearly 20m more people than the second largest which is France. All countries do not have the same say in what goes on.
So if all residents had the same say as you would like Germany would have the most residents to vote for their own people. The two people that seem to want this the most on here are Martcov and CCFC Germany. I wonder where you both live
What a load of bollocks.you keep denying being a racist - even when no-one here said you were. But you say Germany runs the EU, that a president of a Federal EU would be German and rule Britain and that you are proud to be British - that's why you voted leave and followed the elite public schoolboys wishes.
Germany does not rule the EU. They have the Same voting rights as we do. a president of a Federal EU would be elected as figure head of 28 countries consisting of 500000000 people, 80000000 of which are Germans. Even if you vote according to race and assume everyone else votes according to race ( not everyone is as racist as many leavers ), there is absolutely no way a German must win. The presidential votes on the continent go in stages so that there are only 2 main candidates to be voted for in the final ballot. The president would not rule per decree as a monarch anyway.
Your constant ill informed and race based comments confirm the suspicions of remainers ( you say you would vote leave ).
Germany's Vice Chancellor says young Britons living in Germany should be encouraged to take German citizenship as they obviously know more about the benefits of EU membership than " the snobish British elite".
I am the same as most people that live in the UK. We don't want to be governed by anyone but ourselves.So what's your idea, then ?
Personally, I do not care where "my" representatives come from.
If I think Greek, Spanish or Danish up for election are the best ones for the job, so be it.
Martcov lives in Germany. He wants us governed by others than ourselves. CCFC Germany lives in Germany. He wants us governed by others than ourselves.Out of interest:
Ernie "doesn't believe a word" about increased racial attacks/ insults.
Reg thinks no-one likes us anyway - thus justifying racial insults?
Ashdown says 800000 Poles are only here for the benefits. Utter BS.
Dustman says "the Scots know their place".... When it comes to "one size doesn't fit all" ( Astute's alibi economic non race argument ) as regards the UK.
K of K gets referred to as a "stupid English prick" when abroad - ( may be an insult or could be a statement of fact ) but does that justify English people insulting Spanish cleaning ladies? I think not.
All in all the stereotype leaver does seem to be present in a high proportion in our little world.
Grendel does not have to continually deny being a racist - simply because he isn't one and he knows it. Which makes one wonder about others who have the need to deny being racist when no-one says they are.
What a load of bollocks.
Germany has nearly 20 million more citizens than any other countries in the EU. Yet you say that it doesn't make any difference. And how many times have I said that I didn't vote leave yet you go on about me voting leave.
And are you accusing me of being racist? You are an absolute wanker and would use any means to twist things towards what you are trying to say if so.
Martcov lives in Germany. He wants us governed by others than ourselves. CCFC Germany lives in Germany. He wants us governed by others than ourselves.
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