She didn’t start this farce off. That was the billionaires‘ puppet Farage... the leavers compounded it... and the Brexiteers legged it... leaving May to get a deal together... scum... but, fair play to May for trying.. fxxk Lord Snooty and his coup..
She didn’t start this farce off. That was the billionaires‘ puppet Farage... the leavers compounded it... and the Brexiteers legged it... leaving May to get a deal together... scum... but, fair play to May for trying.. fxxk Lord Snooty and his coup..
Gibraltar : I think that's the last straw for me . We leave with no deal and then invade Spain. Serve them right.
It ends when the money runs out.
As Margaret Thatcher said "The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money."
Which generation do you blame the most for this though?
You know my feelings about Tories. You know my feelings about politicians. Why would I suddenly start to try and defend them?
All this diatribe was caused by Cameron trying to win votes. He said there would be a referendum if they won another term in office.
Why do you constantly try to make out that I defend the Tories? I would love you to point out just once where I have. Your problem with me is I also don't defend Corbyn and Labour. It is a sad time for politics in the UK. I don't trust any of them. Nearly all of them are full of shit.
One put forward one of the most progressive Labour manifestos in a long time. The other promised to deny teachers a pay rise and to devote above inflation spending increases for the military. Even if you think Corbyn's a prick there was no contest between the policy substance. Is he the messiah no and I would much rather someone with no skeletons in the closet for our right wing media to pick up and run with.
It was said at one time that Spain would never be allowed to join unless they first acknowledged Britain's sovereignty over Gibraltar but like all such assurances it was soon overridden by political expediency.Gibraltar : I think that's the last straw for me . We leave with no deal and then invade Spain. Serve them right.
And here you go again. You make comments that have nothing to do with what I have said.As I've said before, the Tories must love people like you scapegoating tax pay people coming here to work.
It's shocking.
Who is ill?Patients is a virtue.
Or you could say about hard remainers like yourself that you ignore the thoughts of people who want to leave and make accusations against them that are not true. I am not a hard leaver as you call it. But you don't even like me mentioning the truth and make stupid accusations against myself.Yeah it has shown the Hard Brexiteers to be a joke, never putting any solutions forward and seemingly still failing to understand negotiations.
And that generation is?A point made by smug right wingers who like giving tax breaks to those who don't need them and always want loose change for an intervention or two.
The generation who put climate change on steroids and filled the oceans with plastic crap
So you fully agree with me but make out that you disagree with me.One put forward one of the most progressive Labour manifestos in a long time. The other promised to deny teachers a pay rise and to devote above inflation spending increases for the military. Even if you think Corbyn's a prick there was no contest between the policy substance. Is he the messiah no and I would much rather someone with no skeletons in the closet for our right wing media to pick up and run with.
Just come across this as was reading the BBC news.As I've said before, the Tories must love people like you scapegoating tax pay people coming here to work.
It's shocking.
When you are older you will look back at the tripe you have posted and here and laugh at yourself
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Just come across this as was reading the BBC news.
Homeless population 'rises to 320,000'
Scaremongering? Scapegoating?
This is real life. Blame who you want for the homeless crisis. But not everyone will blame the same people as yourself. At least 320,000 homeless people in the UK? And they are just the official ones. Just those in temporary accommodation which is normally a hotel room shared between a family or those who are registered as being on the street. This doesn't include those where people are in squats. Or those who are 20 or even more people in a small house with mattresses in every available place.
Then you moan that your rent is too high. It is all about supply and demand. That is why house prices are too high. That is why people struggle to buy a place of their own these days. But as long as you can blame someone or something else all is OK. And if anyone mentions anything you come out with your old line of scapegoating immigrants. You ignore the problems caused by open borders for anyone with an EU passport.
Yes I understand that your parents were immigrants. I understand that your partner isn't from the UK. But this doesn't mean that you should deny the truth. It makes a difference. It makes people go against EU principles and then the EU.
This is why I say we need to catch up with the infrastructure. We need breathing space. It isn't that I am anti immigration. But we can't continue as we are now. Something has to change. And I don't trust any UK government to solve the problem. They see it as more important to build a train line through the country than solve the housing crisis.
And here you go again. You make comments that have nothing to do with what I have said.
So let's have a look then. You say that the rise of populists has nothing to do with the EU. I mention one of the reasons is a lot of people don't like the idea of anyone with an EU passport being able to live where they want. This is true. But you turn it into me scapegoating immigrants.
What is wrong with you? Is it that you don't like the truth or is it you couldn't see it even if it smashed you in the face?
Let's try again. It looked like we were going to vote remain. Cameron said just before the referendum that he had a meeting with Juncker to discuss freedom of movement to the UK. Juncker said publicly that there was no meeting planned and there was no plans for one in the future. There was a late swing for leave. I suppose this made no difference to the way anybody voted. This isn't looking for a scapegoat. This is reality.
So Labour under Bliar never had a thing to do with it?we've got record numbers of homeless, massive spike in crime, record levels of wealth inequality, the UN has just released a damning UN report on the poverty in the country, the country's fucked and it has nothing to do with anyone other than this tory government, the sooner we get shot the better, though they'll have made a complete dogs dinner of Brexit first as I predicted.
Yet again I ask you to explain how I am scapegoating anyone. I have stated facts. What I have stated is not my views. That is what you do.My rent is high as I live in a desirable city of the south coast where there are 2 universities so a lot of rental accommodation is swallowed up by them, people from London selling up there and buying homes down here and pushing up cost of buying houses, it's also a very dense area with not a lot of room left to build.
Your scapegoating of tax paying immigrants is shocking but it's been a tactic used for decades, I guess.
Yet again I ask you to explain how I am scapegoating anyone. I have stated facts. What I have stated is not my views. That is what you do.
So are you saying that rent and house prices are not high because of supply and demand?
Moved goalposts?So now you've moved the goalposts from it being the EU to UK? What's your excuse for Trump? Do you blame than on that the EU, as well?
A meeting on freedom of movement? Why would the EU allow Britain to curb it while being an EU member? Have you not been following over the last couple of years? Did you genuinely believe that the UK could end freedom of movement while being an EU member?
Moved goalposts?
So what are these?
Trump is an arrogant w@nker. But what has he got to do with the EU? Just you making up crap to try and take the conversation off what you can't defend as usual.
And who said anything would be allowed? But you are trying to make out that EU policies have nothing to do with the rise of the populist vote growing or right wing votes growing in the EU. But everyone knows the truth.
we've got record numbers of homeless, massive spike in crime, record levels of wealth inequality, the UN has just released a damning UN report on the poverty in the country, the country's fucked and it has nothing to do with anyone other than this tory government, the sooner we get shot the better, though they'll have made a complete dogs dinner of Brexit first as I predicted.
Point out where I have said the word Brighton. That is how stupid your point is. There is a severe housing shortage in most of the UK. Supply and demand?You've consistently tried to blame migrants for the housing crisis but as I said, it's been a tactic used for decades.
You've tried to blame EU immigrants for high levels of housing in Brighton and Hove, which is quite frankly hilarious when it is caused by having 2 universities in a small city and rich middle class families moving out of London having sold their houses in the capital for a lot of money.
So Labour under Bliar never had a thing to do with it?
Oh yes record number of homeless. Why is it that it is mentioned when it goes with the point you want to make?
Both Labour and the Tories have shaped where we are now. Then add EU rules and regulations and you come to our present situation. But I am supposed to ignore the part that Labour and EU rules and regulations have played in the situation.
Labour's social housing record
Anthony Giddens: The rise and fall of New Labour
Constant EU bashing? Sorry I didn't know they were perfect.You were going on about populism in the EU then focused on the UK to blame FoM as the reason, yet now seem to have switched back to the EU as a whole.
The point I made this time and before is that it is not consigned to the EU and is going on elsewhere. It doesn't fit into your constant EU bashing so you have to ignore it and pretend it and claim the discussion is going off course.
And what is 'the truth'/your opinion?
Constant EU bashing? Sorry I didn't know they were perfect.
Why do you never mention my constant Tory bashing? Oh yes just remembered. You do constant Tory bashing so you let that one go by.
I don't defend anyone. I state facts. I have a go at everyone. Because nobody comes out of this mess looking respectful. But you can't stand anyone pointing out anything that doesn't make the EU look good. There is always someone else to blame for everything.
It has gone up massively for nearly 20 years. And yes it has now slowed down. But is still happening.I'm not going to defend Blair but are you seriously trying to make out homelessness hasn't increased massively in the last few years?
Strange that as net immigration is decreasing but homelessness is still going up.
Point out where I have said the word Brighton. That is how stupid your point is. There is a severe housing shortage in most of the UK. Supply and demand?
And yet again I have blamed nobody. I have stated facts. Both Labour and the Tories haven't built enough homes. Yet you try and state that immigration makes no difference to the homeless situation. I state you are wrong. Anything that puts the population up makes the situation worse. Just like we have mire births than deaths. Oh dear. I am blaming people for having a family now I take it.
What a load of bullshit. Just point out one post where I have defended them. I know for a fact you won't find one. But of course you know differently but can't show evidence.Your constant Tory bashing - hahaha! Yeah, right! Most of the time desperately trying to deflect away from them
I used you as you moan about having to pay a high rent so can't save for a mortgage. That is the usual problem for the younger generations. But of course you will deny this.You were going on about me complaining about the cost of my rent as an example and tried to blame EU immigration for it.
Now you can't blame it on EU migrants you claim you didn't mention it- fucking hell.
What a load of bullshit. Just point out one post where I have defended them. I know for a fact you won't find one. But of course you know differently but can't show evidence.
Just like mass immigration has no effect on homelessness. And if you say it does you are scapegoating immigrants.
Commending her on doing a good job? That is some twisting of the truth. Why don't you bring that post back up. I said she had a hard job as nobody is happy. Anybody who had her position would have a hard job. Especially when there are a lot like you who constantly try to change facts. And ignore everything that has an effect on the problems we now have if it can be made out to have nothing to do with what they defend constantly.You deflect away from them as much as you can and often attack both the EU and Labour; only a day or two ago you were commending her on doing a good job.
Commending her on doing a good job? That is some twisting of the truth. Why don't you bring that post back up. I said she had a hard job as nobody is happy. Anybody who had her position would have a hard job. Especially when there are a lot like you who constantly try to change facts. And ignore everything that has an effect on the problems we now have if it can be made out to have nothing to do with what they defend constantly.
It has gone up massively for nearly 20 years. And yes it has now slowed down. But is still happening.
So do you agree that immigration has an effect on homelessness?
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