Incredible, isn't it?
This particular ludicrous drum isn't still being banged, surely...?
Are you saying that illegal immigrants don't get anything?
And why not mention that all countries have problems removing anyone. Even Italy where SB says they don't have a problem. Although he will say that I am putting words into mouths.....
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Hahaha I wonder if other countries devote so much time to spreading that sort of bullshit?
I’ve already told you it’s enforced in Italy, if you don’t and abide by the rules then you lose access to residency and healthcare and other public services. Again, it’s a EU rule that the UK does not use to the full extent that it could do.
Illegal immigrants can’t be removed easily? What’s that based on? Once they’re found they are usually deported without many problems. I would presme you mean those who have claimed asylum and failed, and the disappeared?
So it is enforced in Italy......But then Italy has a problem enforcing it.Indeed you are, you’ve just completely made it up.
Where have I said they don’t have a problem with illegal immigrants in Italy?
It’s a complete fabrication of the truth, I’ve said before that Italy has problems with them, and that other EU countries, including the UK, should shoulder the burden with them. I have said that there should be reform in this area numerous times on here now.
You’ve just made something up to back up your own point of view.
Those in Italy will be claiming asylum status, which complicates it. When you have people from place a like China working here illegally there is no problem deporting them.
I can only presume you’ve managed to get confused between EU migrants accessing public services and illegal immigrants who are unknown as being in the country. Unsurprisingly, as they are illegal they will do not access to these services as they will be hiding from the authorities.
Oh yeah, and yet again you’ve tried to blame domestic issues on something external.
So it is enforced in Italy......But then Italy has a problem enforcing it.
No words put in your mouth. Italy can't enforce it easily like your first post alluded. All countries have the same problem.
Lol...and you are so naive that you think illegals don't enter the country, lose any form of ID they may have, get handouts, & simply disappear at the mere hint of further investigation after applying for asylum?If an illegal immigrant applies for benefits they get caught and shipped out. You don’t seem to understand that there’s a difference between illegal immigrants and asylum seekers who enter a country illegally and claim asylum.
Not for their UK operations they haven't. The EU makes it easy for companies to operate this way. Consider Unilever & some banks who already announced they are still keeping offices in the UK post Brexitthat will happen whether in or our of the EU.
Plenty of companies have moved to China and the far east.
Not for their UK operations they haven't. The EU makes it easy for companies to operate this way. Consider Unilever & some banks who already announced they are still keeping offices in the UK post Brexit
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Show me where I was going on about internal immigration as you put it.Oh dear.
Why are you going on about enforcing internal EU migration and including illegal immigration? It seems you've lumped the two in together.
We have been through all this before. When you try to deport someone we then get into the human rights issues. Even Germany has problems deporting anyone.
Can't be arsed to respond beyond...How does the EU lower the wages in other countries to make office relocation feasible? I think that's more a case of a greedy company tbh.
And again, the EU isn't at fault for the lack of housing being built in the UK. We have very low unemployment, and we need to fill positions. Post-freedom of movement, barring an economic crisis, which the brexiteers seem confident will not happen, we will still need immigration to fill the positions. Otherwise we will be in recession. And the funny thing is, the new immigrants will be brown! I'm fine with that but I'm sure the more racist brexiters will be chuffed to see more visible immigrants 'taking over' our schools, housing and hospitals.
'Nauseating contributors'? Have a word with yourself.
Whilst completely ignoring the myths theycreate of course!For those that haven't seen it, the EU commission have a massive page devoted to mythbusting here
Show me where I was going on about internal immigration as you put it.
If an illegal immigrant applies for benefits they get caught and shipped out. You don’t seem to understand that there’s a difference between illegal immigrants and asylum seekers who enter a country illegally and claim asylum.
Well done...thinking is a good startreally? Straight of the top of my head I can think of 2 quite well known ones. One an arch Brexiteer.
Do you not read the links?
Countries have problems sending anyone anywhere when they don't have documents showing who they are. Most of them throw away their documents if they have any. So how can you send anyone anywhere if that country won't accept them?
Well done...thinking is a good start
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Whilst completely ignoring the myths theycreate of course!
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Can't be arsed to respond beyond...
Read back & you will understand regarding your last line
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Whilst completely ignoring the myths theycreate of course!
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How does the EU lower the wages in other countries to make office relocation feasible? I think that's more a case of a greedy company tbh.
And again, the EU isn't at fault for the lack of housing being built in the UK. We have very low unemployment, and we need to fill positions. Post-freedom of movement, barring an economic crisis, which the brexiteers seem confident will not happen, we will still need immigration to fill the positions. Otherwise we will be in recession. And the funny thing is, the new immigrants will be brown! I'm fine with that but I'm sure the more racist brexiters will be chuffed to see more visible immigrants 'taking over' our schools, housing and hospitals.
'Nauseating contributors'? Have a word with yourself.
Show me where I was going on about internal immigration as you put it.
Can't be arsed to respond beyond...
Read back & you will understand regarding your last line
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Look, I know that I will never change your mind. That's fine. But you can't blame things on the EU that have nothing to do with the EU. This decision is the most important we have made in my lifetime, the consequences could be really really serious. This is not a discussion that should be based on bullshit.
Well done...thinking is a good start
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No...look at the list. Think 180° & come up with ypur own suggestionsCare to give some examples?
Piss off back to twatterNo...look at the list. Think 180° & come up with ypur own suggestions
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But you & your liking-luvvies only see one side of the argument...& believe bullshit in one direction only.
As for blame...I suspect you & said luvvies will wank-off & blame absolutely every negative aspect of life in the UK moving forward on Brexit.
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No. You said why doesn't the UK remove immigrants because it is easy. You said Italy does it. Now why would I think you meant get legal immigrants removed? So that would make it illegal immigrants you were talking about. Unless you are all for FOM but you want them removing.....Why don’t you just admit you got mixed up?
It was obvious I was talking about EU immigration, particularly as I mentioned my own personal experience.
You’re the one who just claimed I said there were no problems with illegal immigration in Italy.
No...look at the list. Think 180° & come up with ypur own suggestions
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And here you go. Now disprove what you said.Illegal immigrants can’t be removed easily? What’s that based on? Once they’re found they are usually deported without many problems. I would presme you mean those who have claimed asylum and failed, and the disappeared?
See? There you have it...you are automatically assuming this (if indeed it is one) myth has anything whatsoever to do with anyone in the UK. I don't know tbh...nor give a shit. I suspect the cost of researching & setting up such a site is not especially money well spent though.I'll try. Taking one at random 'EC To Ban Prawn Cocktail Crisps'. 180° on that would be 'EC will not ban prawn cocktail crisps' - which is actually the correct answer! You might be onto something here!
No. You said why doesn't the UK remove immigrants because it is easy. You said Italy does it. Now why would I think you meant get legal immigrants removed? So that would make it illegal immigrants you were talking about. Unless you are all for FOM but you want them removing.....
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