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Norway pay about £96 per head net to the EU.
The UK pay about... £96 per head net to the EU.
Just like Norway really.
Their MPs should vote however they think is best for their constituents. That's their job.
You said unless people just don't like immigrunts - explain.
Some people don't want open boarders because they're racists who don't like imigrunts. I thought that was self explanatory. I certainly never said anyone who has concern's over boarder controls is a racist. It depends on what their concerns are. Some are racially motivated some aren't. Let's not try and pretend that nobody voted out based on racist motivations though. Clearly some did.
Culturally there is zero commonality between the uk and Europe. Across much of Europe there is little commonality.
The country decided to leave. There was no discussion regarding terms - just leave.
So all MP's who believe in democracy will just say yes and let the government decide. The Marxist rabble rouser from Scotland will of course have different views as will the silly grinning man whose anything but liberal.
The government should cease an opportunity here and also introduce a bill to have English votes determined only by England. They should also call the Marxists bluff and grant a referendum for their independence and set a timescale on it.
I think we are connected culturally and historically. Apart from anything else we were part of the Roman Empire for nearly 400 years, we have been invaded and settled by Danes, Jutes, Angles, Saxons and not to forget the Normans. We fought for and against virtually every European power somewhere and at some time.
I agree that we need an English parliament - only English - as part of a federal system.
I see the point the Scots have and I am not interested in rebellion or Marxism. More important to me, as someone who prefers to see people getting on with one another, is the foreseeable problem of a 'hard' border between Northern Ireland and the ROI. All unnecessary.
The country decided to leave, but not on what terms. There are a whole range of options which no-one was ever consulted about. Let's hope that parliament brings these to debate.
The alternative of May invoking some prerogative from the Middle Ages is abhorrent and undemokratic.
Wrong. Brexit meant brexit. Both sides were actually in complete agreement on that so sorry that's wrong.
However, you said that their will be free movement of labour and that unless you are against immigrunts and you are racist that will be fine.
I think many, many people voted with genuine concerns on immigration and fell a necessity to own the border policy.
Do you think they are racist Tony - if not then your statement is a contradiction.
The question was yes or no. Not hard, soft, hard border in Ireland, individual countries to make their own choice, City of London to retain passport or not...etc etc. Brexit, yes, but not how or in what form. A terrible situation to be in. The referendum was advisory. There is no mandate to leave at whatever terms are offered. So sorry, but the leavers seem to have not been consulted on what form of Brexit they actually want. Some want to get rid of Muslims, others want the Poles to go home tomorrow and others want to retain the single market and to allow all EU citizens who are here to stay. Brexit certainly does not mean Brexit at all costs.
Brexit meant brexit
Some day somebody'll tell me what Brexit means, rather than tell me it means itself.
It's a nonsensical vacuous meaningless statement.
As sure as eggs are eggs, and dogs are dogs.
For goodness sake. You really don't like the result do you.
Brexit meant coming out of the single market. No open borders, passports back.
Please tell, how many heads are there in Norway ?Norway pay about £96 per head net to the EU.
The UK pay about... £96 per head net to the EU.
Sorry I don't agree. Yes your side lost the referendum I quite agree. Brexit meant brexit and both sides to their credit made their absolutely clear. Why you keep going on about other regions of the country is beyond me. We as a country. People in Scotland didn't vote for a conservative government but they got one. So that's that one sorted.
A small correction if I may..... no such thing as hard or soft brexit. Brexit meant Brexit.
Now I know you don't agree and you voted remain. That's good for you and I would never want to change your mind obviously but if you think a smarmy looking millionaire hedge fund manager winning a case via 3 unelected judges is democracy over a referendum of which the biggest ever turnout (33million people) in a British election is democracy then that says it all.
Please tell, how many heads are there in Norway ?
Sorry I don't agree. Yes your side lost the referendum I quite agree. Brexit meant brexit and both sides to their credit made their absolutely clear. Why you keep going on about other regions of the country is beyond me. We as a country. People in Scotland didn't vote for a conservative government but they got one. So that's that one sorted.
A small correction if I may..... no such thing as hard or soft brexit. Brexit meant Brexit.
Now I know you don't agree and you voted remain. That's good for you and I would never want to change your mind obviously but if you think a smarmy looking millionaire hedge fund manager winning a case via 3 unelected judges is democracy over a referendum of which the biggest ever turnout (33million people) in a British election is democracy then that says it all.
All judges are unelected. So what do you want, politicians to judge whether what they are doing is correct? I think the answer may be yes in all cases if politicians checked themselves - who needs pesky courts checking with boring law books and evolved constitutional decisions. The judges have proved their worth in ensuring that parliament has sovereignty over a political clique deciding things without consultation with the representatives of the people.
The decision doesn't stop brexit, but it does mean that it is taken out of the hands of a clique and that there will be a debate about the way to go forward. But you're not worried, so instead of calling people smarmy looking, you should be rejoicing that the political system in Britain is working.
This was not a general election so don't compare the Scottish referendum result with a normal situation which could be reversed at the next general election. This is a one off which cannot be easily reversed and is the most significant event in my lifetime. Yes, I am upset. It has been a disaster up until now and it is not getting better.
Brexit meant brexit
Both side were in full agreement what brexit meant.
I must have missed his agreement before the vote of exactly what terms we would be leaving the EU on. What you've written sounds like your definition, there are some who will think the same, there are many who will give a different definition.Brexit meant coming out of the single market. No open borders, passports back. Our Territorial waters back and our parliament and courts are king with no EU court of justice. Court of appeal etc
Sounds like you're in favour of independence for Scotland. A government they didn't vote for, who persuaded them to stay in the union as we were 'better together' and kept telling them a vote for independence would mean Scotland leaving the EU.People in Scotland didn't vote for a conservative government but they got one.
Norway pay about £96 per head net to the EU.
The UK pay about... £96 per head net to the EU.
What does Brexit means Brexit mean exactly?
It means Out means Out.
It doesn't mean half in and half out.
You are talking bollocks. http://www.may2015.com/ideas/not-a-single-sitting-mp-won-a-majority-of-their-constituency/That's nice but irrelevant, we are talking about Parliament not government. Far more than 51% voted for their MP.
There are 650 MPs. If we rank them all by this measure of legitimacy, the median MP won 30.1 per cent of their votes
That was the real issue. He fucked up big time. Still Blair fucked up even bigger with his war.Cameron thought he'd get an easy win
It means Out means Out.
It doesn't mean half in and half out.
Look if the parliament want to decide as in MPs then fine by me. Technically it is the right thing to do what is morally wrong is actively trying the change the result of a massive referendum. I know you are upset and that's fine. Your side lost and if leave lost I would of been very upset to I assure you but maybe the difference is I wouldn't of expected a hedge fund business women who is worth a few million quid actively trying to reverse the result of a British referendum in court backed up by 3 judges who have history of eu law making. As I say if you believe these 4 people represents over 33mil in a referendum then fine but I don't agree with it.
That was the real issue. He fucked up big time. Still Blair fucked up even bigger with his war.
P.s why has been a disaster? If it has that's not the people's fault is it. We were asked to vote and we did. No more we can do.
The Express is pretty funny today.
I must have missed his agreement before the vote of exactly what terms we would be leaving the EU on. What you've written sounds like your definition, there are some who will think the same, there are many who will give a different definition.
Sounds like you're in favour of independence for Scotland. A government they didn't vote for, who persuaded them to stay in the union as we were 'better together' and kept telling them a vote for independence would mean Scotland leaving the EU.
Are you trying to say the only Brexit can be a hard Brexit?
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