Brighton Sky Blue
Well-Known Member
I wasn't always but having lived in Scotland for nearly a decade and then entered education yes, pretty much. Doesn't mean I always will be though.
You are Labour 101%. That is very obvious.
??? Not sure how you've worked out I'm a Tory lover...
She is the most racially abused MP in this country.
not sure how you've come to the conclusion that that's what I was saying.
She is the most racially abused MP in this country.
So you think Corbyn is a good thing for the Labour party?
Abbott wasn't exactly bullied. She was shown up to be clueless. There is a big difference.
Sounds like you would be happy if nobody said anything about what is wrong with the Labour party.
It seemed like you thought I let the Tories off or overlook their gaffes. Wires crossed maybe but I've been criticising them for the bulk of this thread
I wasn't aiming my comments at you in particular, and I don't think Abbott is a good MP, (probably a good constituency MP but being in the cabinet/shadow cabinet is a different ball game).
But her gaffs get maximum exposure while the middle aged white men of the tory party seem to get a pass, I've drawn my conclusions.
If Fox doesn't deliver his fabled 40 trade deals the day after brexit, (or 39 now the Japanese deal isn't going to be ready), let's see how much stick he comes in for?
For a fuck up of that magnitude he should be fucking crucified.
Out by much more than 20b. Now they are trying to rip off owners of land and buildings to keep the amount down.
But on the other hand you have someone who is given numbers on what something will cost and you have someone who worked out that police officers get paid £200 A year.
We should have people who are good with financial matters in charge of financial matters. But in politics it is if your face fits. Or if you have previously shagged your boss.
She herself is a racist
She is really a Nazi skin headGo on then, I’ll ask.
How is Diane Abbott a racist?
Go on then, I’ll ask.
How is Diane Abbott a racist?
Would I be a racist if I only wanted a white nurse treat me in an NHS hospital?
Would I be a racist if I only wanted a white nurse treat me in an NHS hospital?
Not quite what she said is it G, the question was ‘why aren’t we hiring local unemployed instead’. Is Labour racist or soft on immigration?
I asked first. Why don’t you answer the question.
Not quite what she said is it G, the question was ‘why aren’t we hiring local unemployed instead’. Is Labour racist or soft on immigration?
So if Jacob Rees mogg has said black nurses were unsuitable serving local white patients in a hospital as they’ve probably never touched one let alone understand their multi cultural needs you’d be ok with that?
Blimey
Abbott is not up to a front bench job IMO. She has been called out on her numerical acumen. Other MP’s have made far bigger mathematical errors (Hammond, Johnson) and errors of competence on a far grander scale (like every Brexit secretary) yet they have never suffered the sustained abuse and vitriol that she has. And that is because she is a) Labour b) Female and c) Black. It’s a shameful indictment on the intolerance in our society.
Did you just have a go at her because she is Labour, black or a woman?
Of course not. You had a go for the same reason as everyone else. But you are accusing others of being sexist or racist.
I have
Jacob Rees Mogg was on TV last week justifying the use of concentration camps... perhaps you should take a look at your subject matter before you use it to make a point.
Out by much more than 20b. Now they are trying to rip off owners of land and buildings to keep the amount down.
But on the other hand you have someone who is given numbers on what something will cost and you have someone who worked out that police officers get paid £200 A year.
We should have people who are good with financial matters in charge of financial matters. But in politics it is if your face fits. Or if you have previously shagged your boss.
Who cares ? I remember when she was a loony left maniac who used to stand up and rant in the house of commons. Then she reinvented herself: tried to sound posh and pretended to be a little more reflective. Now she's a total loon and demented. And she can't add up. It's come full circle.Go on then, I’ll ask.
How is Diane Abbott a racist?
Jacob Rees Mogg was on TV last week justifying the use of concentration camps... perhaps you should take a look at your subject matter before you use it to make a point.
He wasn’t but never mind - and no doubt if Abbott was it would all be fine - mogg rightly got a huge round of applause for his point didn’t he? Whereas the sneering guardian columnist was rightly jeered and mocked.
Anyone can Google to get what they want.
Anyone can Google to get what they want.
Would you like to see the other side?
Abbott sorry for Twitter race row
Abbott denies attack on nurses was racist
Abbott’s alarming contempt for Brexit voters
There's more comments that she has made over the years. I am not saying that she is racist or has made racist comments. The problem I have is that if a white person would have said the same comments against a black person it would certainly be counted as racism. We can't have a two tier system where certain nationalities or where the descendents originated from are allowed to make comments that others are not allowed to make. It should be the same for everyone. After all we are all equal..... or you would hope we are.
Yes I do think he is good for the Labour Party. And the primary reason is that him being there in that position facilitated the creation of that manifesto in 2017. That was what made me join the party.
Abbott is not up to a front bench job IMO. She has been called out on her numerical acumen. Other MP’s have made far bigger mathematical errors (Hammond, Johnson) and errors of competence on a far grander scale (like every Brexit secretary) yet they have never suffered the sustained abuse and vitriol that she has. And that is because she is a) Labour b) Female and c) Black. It’s a shameful indictment on the intolerance in our society.
There is plenty wrong with Labour. It’s been suffering an identity crisis since Blair was in charge. It’s going to take a lot longer until it is corrected, and inevitably those that saw it as a home under the Tory-lite regime may not want to stay in it.
He got hefty critiques afterwards by people who actually knew the historical facts though. Judging people by the applause they get from their fans on TV is meaningless. He was playing to the crowd, good actor that he is. Implying that by inventing concentration camps we were doing people a favour is a mockery of those that died or suffered in them. He is a repulsive creature.
He got hefty critiques afterwards by people who actually knew the historical facts though. Judging people by the applause they get from their fans on TV is meaningless. He was playing to the crowd, good actor that he is. Implying that by inventing concentration camps we were doing people a favour is a mockery of those that died or suffered in them. He is a repulsive creature.
Did you see the programme and the context? As for “historical facts” I assume you mean the “historian” whose actually an EU obsessive and got most of his facts off Wiki?
Context? From Rees-Mogg. Here’s a link of for photos through the period. Why don’t you look through them and see if you can apply Rees-Mogg’s “context” to any of them.
Haunting Photos Of History's First Concentration Camps, 40 Years Before The Holocaust
Did you see the programme?
I don't disagree at all. But that is my point.just to be clear, her comments weren't aimed at white people, they were aimed at white people who she perceived had no experience of dealing with black people. To me it was a stupid comment, ill informed and still racist but it's a bit more nuanced than people are making out.
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