Slip and slide. Did May learn her trade from you?
You may be counting your chickens there. Another big day in Parliament tomorrow.
I'm expecting a fox in the coop.You may be counting your chickens there. Another big day in Parliament tomorrow.
I'm expecting a fox in the coop.
Also have you seen this one, Aaron Banks has supposedly already met with the Italians.
Its madness that we are told it would be the end of democracy to have a 'peoples vote' but May can keep talking the same deal back to parliament again and again until she gets it her way.I wonder how many times Parliament will have to vote on it until she gets the right result?
Its madness that we are told it would be the end of democracy to have a 'peoples vote' but May can keep talking the same deal back to parliament again and again until she gets it her way.
See the austerity stick has now come out. Vote my way or we'll start cutting everything again.
No Brexit is not going to happen at all. Brexit was offered and snatched away by the political classes. Theresa May has done nothing but play the game as the Remainer that she is. It's all fucking bullshit and the bullies from Brussels will be laughing their tits off.......still the UK goes down the pan as the population expands, crime rises, wages are suppressed, services like schools and hospitals are at breaking point and all the real wealth continues to funnel to London along with all the government money.,...still the stupid fecks who don't live with the gradual decline will see it as a victory over the likes of Farage. Traitors to the ordinary people, all of them !!
So what is left?
Mays deal or no deal? Not now.
The EU doesn't look to want to offer anything. So no other deal is on the table. So all that is on the table is the May deal. To extend article 50 every leader in the EU must agree. It just takes one to say no for no extension to happen. Not leaving without a deal isn't a legal entity. But they won't go against it willingly.
So while May is MP I can't see anything else happening.
Same for the pricks in the 'Independent Group'
I don’t think they are pricks, but I do think that labour should take this right wing coup by the balls and end it. The ERG are not here for the weakest in the UK society. The EU offers a more worker oriented future than people tied up with Trump or maybe Moscow. The liberals can’t do much alone with the FPTP system. The only viable opposition is Labour. I hope they grab Brexit by the balls and squeeze them hard.
So you agree with me then?The EU will only extend article 50 if there is a purpose. People‘s vote would get an extension.
Ah. So if a country says what it wants it will get it?The USA already listed what they want from trade deals.
The USA has massive agricultural production for example. I can see the benefits of a trade deal for them. An extra 65 million consumers. What do we intend exporting that we do not export to the USA already?
Of course at the end of the day we will have some trade deals. The question is what have we gained? We have international trade deals through the EU and we are at the table when it comes to defining the rules of the SM and CU. We have passporting for our financial services. What do we gain by leaving that we don’t already have?
Why should countries give us beneficial deals for us when they know we are out on our own?
At the moment we are not getting the promised 40 roll over deals because the countries know they can get better deals by waiting until we are out. This is not fantasy, it is fact. You can check how much of our existing exports are covered by roll over deals.
Here we go again.They have already said that they would back an extension for a people‘s vote. If a people’s vote failed ( for remain), with people being aware that Brexit is not what was promised, I don’t see what you could argue for asking again. The argument that Brexit was built on lies and a fraudulent referendum ( still being investigated) seems to be fair enough. With what we now know, to as ask for the voters‘ opinion seems reasonable to me. If they still say we want to leave, what can you say against that?
Yes SB.You can talk hahaha. Be careful you don’t flounce off again in a huff
Less chance of what happening?It sounds like he’s clutching at straws, there’s even less chance of it happening at all now.
This is why the May deal might still go through. If they are given a free vote the result might not be close yet again. But if it is made official that the Tories had to follow the May deal there wouldn't be many more that would have to vote her deal. There are quite a few from other parties that would vote for the May deal. She is saying that follow her deal or there is a good chance we won't leave. So what would a Brexit supporting MP do?No Brexit is not going to happen at all. Brexit was offered and snatched away by the political classes. Theresa May has done nothing but play the game as the Remainer that she is. It's all fucking bullshit and the bullies from Brussels will be laughing their tits off.......still the UK goes down the pan as the population expands, crime rises, wages are suppressed, services like schools and hospitals are at breaking point and all the real wealth continues to funnel to London along with all the government money.,...still the stupid fecks who don't live with the gradual decline will see it as a victory over the likes of Farage. Traitors to the ordinary people, all of them !!
Yes he said it. Not sure if it was in jest. But what else does anyone expect from Farage?I'm expecting a fox in the coop.
Also have you seen this one, Aaron Banks has supposedly already met with the Italians.
May is a remainer. You can say what you want about her but the fact still stands.May is an absolute bell end. It's a shit deal, it's been voted down twice by the largest and 4th largest majority loss any government has ever had and she wants to bring it back a third time.
She has to go.
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I'm expecting a fox in the coop.
Also have you seen this one, Aaron Banks has supposedly already met with the Italians.
Corbyn wants out of the EU. Corbyn wants to be PM. Why else would he want to do anything differently?Can Jezza please give up this nonsense of another general election when a) the party is lagging in the polls and b) nobody except him seems to want one? Push for another referendum as a way to end the deadlock and whatever the public go for make it legally binding. If enough people still love Brexit, it will still happen. If enough realise that Brexit is a turd which cannot be polished, we can admit this was one embarrassing mistake and pretend that May was never PM
Is May as bad as many say or has she played a blinder backed by the EU?
Which is what I am saying.What is left is May having to go to the EU begging for an extension but without a particularly good reason. A general election won't be enough-no guarantee that the Commons will change enough to force anything through. A second referendum will-like it or not, it's the only way to get a clear in or out which Parliament cannot ignore
Absolutely no evidence for these types of remain statements. As incendiary as some of the pro Brexit rhetoric.
No one can make such sweeping statements. No matter what type of Brexit there may be there is no solid evidence of what type of trade deals would happen with Britain and the EU, USA or other trade blocks.
All sides exploiting and misleading people.
There will be trade deals and other deals in areas of mutual interest.
There will be no crashing out. No deal was never an option just a theoretical bargaining tool.
There probably will be an organised Brexit. It will cause pain on all sides but as always with trade it will smooth itself out.
Did she put them in place because of how much they were clueless or did she give orders on what they could say or do?No way that would be too machiavellian for her. Her and her cabinet are simply incompetent, look at her Brexit Secretaries and their comments over the years.
No way that would be too machiavellian for her. Her and her cabinet are simply incompetent, look at her Brexit Secretaries and their comments over the years.
Did she put them in place because of how much they were clueless or did she give orders on what they could say or do?
I don't trust MP's. And I trust Tory MP's even less.
the fact she's held on to her job this long suggests she may be more Machiavellian than we all gave her credit for.
Either that or no one else wanted the job.
Corbyn wants out of the EU. Corbyn wants to be PM. Why else would he want to do anything differently?
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