Of course it would. The trust is already a dictatorship! Think it will improve when they're in fishers shoes??
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so people protest on the pitch It is called wrong , so others protest via a newspaper article it is wrong , please someone tell me what is acceptable way to protest that is effective , and don't bother saying email him FFS.
It's OK though as they asked for his families permission!I personally wouldn't have used Jimmy Hills name, I'll agree with you on that.
You are calling out the supporters group for taking action that you don't approve of. I understand that.Completely agree with that Nick.
No class.
I had same opinion of the trust.
For a bunch of so called intelligent supporters why don't they get the nuance of the City situation.
Just SISU bashing for Sisu bashing sake.
Calling for Fishers head because of transfers during window?
We've brought in 4 players (with others on trial) that have enhanced the squad and not sold any of our talented youngsters for a pittance.
Admittedly I'd have loved a new proven striker (so would every other club!)
But How do you can call that a failure-god only knows!
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Nearly right when asked if his name could be used they said yes if he was still alive he would join you.It's OK though as they asked for his families permission!
When doing so though did the say,
Hi Mrs. Hill. We're sorry for your loss, we'd like to ask your permission to use your late husbands name for our protest group so as we can drag it through the mud and further divide our fan Base? Is that cool? Great, then Fight the Jimmy Hill Way it is then!
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You are calling out the supporters group for taking action that you don't approve of. I understand that.
Do you want the things to remain as they are?
Are you against any action that is anti-sisu? are you pro-sisu?
If not? what do you suggest should happen?
Any way you are right the time is gone for the JHW, just need fans to do their own thing..........
That's where you went wrong.nd did everything but give him a hand job
Of course it would. The trust is already a dictatorship! Think it will improve when they're in fishers shoes??
I agree that if we are to get anywhere we need the fans together. But surely that should come from the top down, not the other way round. The trust have over 3000 members and the media behind them to make the changes needed. I'm one person with 100 followers on twitter. Who's gonna be heard? Who will have the biggest chance of making that change? And if they're serious about this takeover bid (which I very much doubt), then they must change because as it stands, to me, they're just as bad as SISU right now!like I said, if they use the model other fan owned clubs use it wouldn't be a dictatorship.
The problem is, what do you suggest? Staying how we are? An alternative group causing more divisions among supporters?
I've poste this numerous times and appreciate I sound like a stuck record but the guy from Pompey at the Albany club stressed fan unity above all else yet everyone just seems to want to keep falling out with anyone that doesn't agree with them. While we keep doing that we will never improve the lot of the club and we will be as much to blame for our fate as sisu.
By the way, I 'm not a member of the trust.
It seems to me the people who shout loudest regarding protesters of any kind are the ones who do FA themselves. They seem happy to watch the club be crushed to the point of oblivion by our naughty owners. I wouldn't wish to call the owners any worse as it may upset the politically correct.
You have sort of summed up the problem. There are so many factions among CCFC fans, all with their own ideas and people to blame for the mess the club is in. And that suits the owners of the club just fine, while they all snipe at each other about what to do about it. Sisu = Divide and Rule.so people protest on the pitch It is called wrong , so others protest via a newspaper article it is wrong , please someone tell me what is acceptable way to protest that is effective , and don't bother saying email him FFS.
Surely a good way would be to try and create a bit of unity then?
I'll await a reply about a telegraph petition and everybody being united with everything they do or say because somebody signed somebody else's petition.
I said what's the point and what will it achieve apart from try and whip up a bit of anger.
People aren't bothered about logic, people aren't bothered about facts they just want to shout. Maybe protest groups could have a look at things like from OSB and use things like that to advise and explain things to the fans a bit more?
That's not saying don't protest either.
It's OK though as they asked for his families permission!
When doing so though did the say,
Hi Mrs. Hill. We're sorry for your loss, we'd like to ask your permission to use your late husbands name for our protest group so as we can drag it through the mud and further divide our fan Base? Is that cool? Great, then Fight the Jimmy Hill Way it is then!
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How do you figure that then fella?Do you create unity? As
Considering you were very concerned about Jimmy's name being used by an unworthy group, you yourself seem to have a very poor opinion of his family.
Do you create unity?
You have sort of summed up the problem. There are so many factions among CCFC fans, all with their own ideas and people to blame for the mess the club is in. And that suits the owners of the club just fine, while they all snipe at each other about what to do about it. Sisu = Divide and Rule.
I believe that any other club in this mess would have long since organised its fans into a single voice and co-ordinated its protests in a way that CCFC fans have never done. The fans that remain are therefore ineffective. A large proportion have just given up in despair. It's well over three years since the Northampton debacle and we have made no progress since. Time is running out, I'm afraid.
Its a perfectly valid question. Who says they were behind it?How long until we both get the standard:
SISU APOLOGIST. SISU LOVER. What proof do u have that were behind the pitch invasions.
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You are calling out the supporters group for taking action that you don't approve of. I understand that.
Do you want the things to remain as they are?
Are you against any action that is anti-sisu? are you pro-sisu?
If not? what do you suggest should happen?
The guy from the Pompey supporters Trust said to be prepared for the fact that you will never have everyone on board, that there are always going to be those who will criticise and find fault what ever you do. You can see lots of examples on here. Whatever anyone does there will be some who say it is wrong. There bare those who will criticise an action by the Trust simply because it is the Trust and irrespective of what the action is.
Even though it's a plastic costume, that kick in the inflatable balls still makes me wince.
Wasps have been here about two years no? You can also ask our owners why they didnt take up the option to buy at least a 50% stake in the Ricoh?I want a supporters group that protests against ALL sides.
Not this biased wank that flies against all logic and the facts.
I am PRO the Club, the players, manager, supporters and our Coventry City FC.
I don't like the way SISU conduct themselves but don't see the way they have owned us any differently than any of the other previous owners. (Can't remember anyone protesting against the selling of Highfield Road or questions asked by the Telegraph about the Ricoh ownership)
This shit would only happen in Coventry.
Any other City and there's no way a fookin rugby club would've allowed to barge their way onto a Football clubs turf (whatever the owners had done).
The only way to unite is to have a fans group that is not a protest group but an action group.
An organisation that has the clubs best interests at heart and not petty vengeance against one side.
A group that challenges all sides for the benefit of the team and its supporters.
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Jimmy Hill turning in his grave more like.
Everything they do is most definitely NOT the way Jimmy Hill would have done it.
Jimmy Hill had class.
This 'group' of supporters have taken it on themselves to be the mouth piece of CCFC fans.
They do not represent me or my viewpoints and they certainly do not represent the dignity, intelligence and rapport that Jimmy had.
Honestly getting fed up of listening to them.
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Completely agree with that Nick.
No class.
I had same opinion of the trust.
For a bunch of so called intelligent supporters why don't they get the nuance of the City situation.
Just SISU bashing for Sisu bashing sake.
Calling for Fishers head because of transfers during window?
We've brought in 4 players (with others on trial) that have enhanced the squad and not sold any of our talented youngsters for a pittance.
Admittedly I'd have loved a new proven striker (so would every other club!)
But How do you can call that a failure-god only knows!
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We got rid of 5 loanees and I think we have replaced them with 5 more. We traded our leading scorer to bring in another forward, a like for like swap. We were prepared to sell our captain who only seems to have stayed due to lack of agreement on personal terms. The net gain Is therefore only Clarke ( here until the end of the season and perhaps the replacement for Ricketts who retired 3 months ago). Do you call this a success?
I was vehemently against wasps and majorly pissed with the councils role in the demise of our club. However the time for protesting against them are long gone I'm afraid. It's far more pressing now to get Sisu to sell up and fuck off.I want a supporters group that protests against ALL sides.
Not this biased wank that flies against all logic and the facts.
I am PRO the Club, the players, manager, supporters and our Coventry City FC.
I don't like the way SISU conduct themselves but don't see the way they have owned us any differently than any of the other previous owners. (Can't remember anyone protesting against the selling of Highfield Road or questions asked by the Telegraph about the Ricoh ownership)
This shit would only happen in Coventry.
Any other City and there's no way a fookin rugby club would've allowed to barge their way onto a Football clubs turf (whatever the owners had done).
The only way to unite is to have a fans group that is not a protest group but an action group.
An organisation that has the clubs best interests at heart and not petty vengeance against one side.
A group that challenges all sides for the benefit of the team and its supporters.
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