In all honesty this thread is so long because it has touched a nerve with the fans that did not go.
As deep down I am sure some could have attended and did not.
Personally I do think stadium is to big for us and if an alternative new ground in Cov could be found where
we owned it and all revenue streams it would be far more commercial to have a 20k stadium charging a competitve rate
as we are currently do. Then success would reward the loyal season ticket holders - of which I am not one tbh.
This club has always survived on 8-10K lifeblood of season ticket holders. Fans that go to games when can regardless of the oppo, I fit into
this category and unfortunately however you want to phrase it those that only come out for "bigger" games.
I have said this on an alterntive thread but currently 11,000 even at 20 pound a ticket average is 220,000 whereas 27,000 at 5 pound
is only 135,000. The fans whingeing about 20 tickets are normally the same fans who drive me up the wall complaining about why havent we signed
enough pros for a 40 man squad on big wages in league 1!! You cannot have it all particularly now with FFP.
The short term goal of being back at the Ricoh for next two seasons is the most important thing and should be rightfully celebrated
.However if we continue to get 11k crowds and poor deal on revenue streams would be foolhardy not to consider the possiblity
of a smaller owned venue in Coventry for long term security of the club.
even if tickets were £15, how many more fans would you expect to come through. Okay granted if we continue this form yes, but if we have a sticky patch and say we are playing fleetwood at home, would fans be flocking to see that? even if the tickets were £15 people would find an excuse not to come Imo
I'm sure there were, VOR.
1. Some people couldn't afford it, fine.
2. Some people couldn't make it, fine.
3. Some people tried to get tickets and couldn't, fine.
Some though simply couldn't be arsed and even taking all the above out of the euqation, 11,000 is still a total embarrassment. First feel good factor around the club for many, many years and some people were even talking about a new Sky Blue Revolution.
Seemingly a Sky Blue Revolution that lasted just one single game.
I see we even made Midlands Today news today re the missing 16,000.
Spot on Otis,the fact is more simply cannot be arsed than anything else which is embarrassing ,I know there are still fans who won't go because of SISU being in charge but surely the more fans we have going the more will get spent on the team? I know we are only getting part revenue which makes it more important to get more there.
the same fuckers will be moaning when come January,when we are only getting loans in and not spending any money. Feel sorry for sp and the boys it really is a shame
Spot on Otis,the fact is more simply cannot be arsed than anything else which is embarrassing ,I know there are still fans who won't go because of shitsu being in charge but surely the more fans we have going the more will get spent on the team? I know we are only getting part revenue which makes it more important to get more there.
the same fuckers will be moaning when come January,when we are only getting loans in and not spending any money. Feel sorry for sp and the boys it really is a shame
I was Season ticket holder from 1986 - 2011 so have seen some serious free fall over that period of time.
Live in Solihull and can afford to pay for a ticket or a season ticket but I just don't come every week through choice. I DID attend the Gillingham game and enjoyed it but to be honest my main reason is that I still do not trust the owners to deliver. Yes appreciate we are on the up at present but until there is a sustained backing from the club and we start to get results on the pitch (longer term - we have been top 6 before only to fall back due player exodus / lack of investment) I will spend my weekends with the family and pick and choose any games.
The sad statistic I read about Coventry not finishing in the top 6 since 1970 especially after dropping 2 divisions does have an effect on fans who are very similar to me.
I believe there are thousands of lapsed season ticket holders who are still disillusioned and gave up around the time of Boothroyd/Coleman but wanted to come and show support for the Gillingham game. It (The attendance for showcase games) shows the long term potential IF the owners decide to get invest in the team. If not then thousands like me will not return after the years of free fall.
Or ask why despite bring insulted they camped out at 3am to get a ticket for Gillingham. I would agree witj ypu if not for the Gills game.Wouldn't it be better to ask why those people didn't return and what can be done to bring them back? Wouldn't that be the best most sensible thing to do?
Or you can just keep insulting the customers
Yeah they could make it cheaper and do some sort of two ticket deals but they cannot do that every week, we need to make revenue for team,academy, and so onWouldn't it be better to ask why those people didn't return and what can be done to bring them back? Wouldn't that be the best most sensible thing to do?
Or you can just keep insulting the customers
Just wanted to add;
2012-13 - Ill feeling amongst supporters, rent row between club and Arena. Club in the doldrums. Club just relegated so low morale, lots of negativity about.
2014-15 - Back at the Ricoh, euphoria, excitement, anticipation, incredible demand for tickets for first game, such demand that some even missed out on going. Tremendous feel good factor about the place, team on a winning run.
Incomparable. Of course I wasn't embarrassed back then. To be expected. On the back of all the joyous, excited feeling of our return this season, yes, embarrassed that many thousands chose not to turn up.
All very well, but if that was the case then the Gillingham game wouldn't have had such a high attendance.
A large proportion of that crowd are not our usual support, it was the homecoming and the cheap tickets that attracted them. Like my dad and two brothers-it was the first game that they've been to since Crewe JPT and the same will be true of around 10,000 of that crowd I expect.
You just don't get it, do you? You missed out: 2013/14, club taken away from the City and the supporters for a season causing massive ill-will that is not going to disappear overnight. You keep going on and on about "feelgood" and "euphoria", but I don't bloody feel any of that: I feel bitter and a little bit numb.
I've said this to you many times now, but you seem to think that "absence makes the heart grow fonder" is a great business strategy for increasing our average support: it isn't, it's a shit strategy that has damaged the relationship between the club and many supporters. Many former ST holders are not rushing back. A year away has weakened our support, not increased it. It's a simple logic that you can't grasp because you don't feel that way, but a lot of us do. Your whinging posts about the gate being a "disgrace" are divisive and arrogant.
We attracted the same number of people that we did when we last at the Ricoh against Yeovil.
That suggests that those who always went still do and those who didn't still won't .
Nice to see you we back spouting the same old guff .
Me and my mate were ST holders and haven't been back, so that clearly isn't the case. Some fans obviously have been retained from the Gillingham game to offset those like me who haven't returned.
You just don't get it, do you? You missed out: 2013/14, club taken away from the City and the supporters for a season causing massive ill-will that is not going to disappear overnight. You keep going on and on about "feelgood" and "euphoria", but I don't bloody feel any of that: I feel bitter and a little bit numb.
I've said this to you many times now, but you seem to think that "absence makes the heart grow fonder" is a great business strategy for increasing our average support: it isn't, it's a shit strategy that has damaged the relationship between the club and many supporters. Many former ST holders are not rushing back. A year away has weakened our support, not increased it. It's a simple logic that you can't grasp because you don't feel that way, but a lot of us do. Your whinging posts about the gate being a "disgrace" are divisive and arrogant.
New owners would increase the attendance although I am not sure by vast numbers.
Worth noting that when SISU came, they were the best thing since sliced bread with their good business sense, we were debt free and signing quality such as Eastwood while the evil Robinson/McGinnity/Richardson triumvirate were finally out the club in entirity... there wasn't exactly a vast rush to support with increased crowds.
Worth noting that when SISU came, they were the best thing since sliced bread with their good business sense, we were debt free and signing quality such as Eastwood while the evil Robinson/McGinnity/Richardson triumvirate were finally out the club in entirity... there wasn't exactly a vast rush to support with increased crowds.
Ditto. I also haven't been back as I have queued up but couldn't get a ticket for Gillingham and until they sort things out I won't be going back.I was one of the missing 16,000. Why ? Living 36 miles away, being an OAP in his 70's, be buggered if I'm going to get caught up in the ticket chaos and wait up to 90 minutes with the chance of getting a ticket. Sort it out and I'll be back pronto. I bet there were a couple of thousand or so with the same thought as me.
What I cannot understand is why some people are talking about 'excuses not to go' to home games. People do not need to have an excuse. They may just choose not to go because they don't want to, for a myriad of reasons. It's as simple as that.
What the club needs to do is to give the thousands of lapsed fans a reason to start going again. Some people may have not attended a match, or more than the odd one, for 20-30 years. We probably all know such people. When we were relegated in 2001 I had a ST in the West Stand with many others who had been there for years. About half a dozen bade their final farewells on the last day and said they would not be back - and they weren't. How do you entice such people back when we have only slipped lower in those 13 miserable seasons? A couple of home wins is not going to convince them.
Gillingham was a one-off event and we have to accept that. Some people who went were there for the first and last time, wives, girlfriends, mothers etc. I know a few like that. They will never return whatever happens. The priority has to be to build up the season ticket base which appears to still be small. Only consistent performances and the demonstration of ambition to get back where we were will achieve that.
What needs to be taken into account is that SISU are still the owners, they are determined in their appeal on the JR, (which I understand could go all the way to the European courts), and the Ricoh deal is only two years with SISU still spouting on about a new but smaller ground. Of course there was a clamour for the first game back at the Ricoh, but now the initial excitement is over, in the cold light of day, people have realised not much has changed and there is a whole load more sh1t to get through before this ordeal is over.
True, but on the playing side, we have just had two great games with fantastic atmospheres, 2 wins, an unbeaten run and us in the top 6 places. Doesn't get much better than that at the moment.
I doubt your everyday casual fan (the ones who apparently react to price and a good time more than others) particularly care about the owners or the politics, either.
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