The Penalty (2 Viewers)
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Liquid Gold
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That isn't the rule, it's bringing the game into disrepute. In this case by the act of diving, it resulting in a penalty shouldn't have anything to do with it as there is no mention of it in the rules.
shmmeee
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Nope.
How does The FA decide whether to charge a player when they have successfully deceived a match official?
The FA can take retrospective action in situations where a match official has been deceived by a player and as a direct result: A penalty has been awarded; and/or An opposing player has been sent off [where the simulation led to a straight red...
help.thefa.com
Liquid Gold
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Why does it not say that in the actual rules then?Nope.
How does The FA decide whether to charge a player when they have successfully deceived a match official?
The FA can take retrospective action in situations where a match official has been deceived by a player and as a direct result: A penalty has been awarded; and/or An opposing player has been sent off [where the simulation led to a straight red...
shmmeee
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chiefdave
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Why bother having a rule book if they’re just going to add random things that aren’t part of the rules?Nope.
How does The FA decide whether to charge a player when they have successfully deceived a match official?
The FA can take retrospective action in situations where a match official has been deceived by a player and as a direct result: A penalty has been awarded; and/or An opposing player has been sent off [where the simulation led to a straight red...
shmmeee
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Just a guess and haven’t checked, but is the rule book the laws of the game on the pitch and this is a league/association regulation like FFP and stuff and not part of the on pitch game.
Liquid Gold
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Who knows. The rules say nothing about a penalty but the clarifications to the rules do so I think it just depends how pissed off Marco Silva is.
Happy_Martian
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" A new offence of ‘Successful Deception of a Match Official’ will be in force from the start of the 2017-18 season, after the regulation change was approved by The FA Council today [18 May] and following a period of consultation with stakeholders over the past few months. "
No diving!
The FA has extended its powers to punish simulation retrospectively from 2016-17
www.thefa.com
Liquid Gold
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I know I've seen that already, I wan't to know why it's a press release from the FA but not the actual rule book." A new offence of ‘Successful Deception of a Match Official’ will be in force from the start of the 2017-18 season, after the regulation change was approved by The FA Council today [18 May] and following a period of consultation with stakeholders over the past few months. "
No diving!
The FA has extended its powers to punish simulation retrospectively from 2016-17
stevefloyd
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Lets face it its not hard to dupe a referee because they are fucking useless and get conned the majority of times, I can accept this ban for Godden IF the governing bodies throughout the world do retrospective bans to everyone who dives or tries to con a ref regardless of where they are on the pitch. This cheating was rife in south american countries, remember Rivaldo having the ball kicked at him in a game when he was taking a corner, it hit him on the leg/thigh and he went down clutching his face...cheat cheat cheat, Neymar needs to be renamed Tom Daley for all his dives, Ronaldo does it they all do, if fifa started clamping down on big names and handing out 4 game bans and more it would be someway to stamping out the cheating on our beautiful game
Heres Rivaldo...poor love !!
Heres Rivaldo...poor love !!
PUSB-We_are_going_up
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Realistically if Godden got a 2 game ban for “decieving” the referee, that blackburn Centre half should get a 3 game ban for dangerous conduct
skybluesam66
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Gyok should get a credit in the bank against future bans after yesterday
Sky Blue Pete
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Needs godden to teach him
eastwoodsdustman
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We’re now 2-1 down on shit penalty decisions. The next one needs to go in our favour but somehow I doubt it will.
Brighton Sky Blue
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If we’re being cynical O’Hare should have had one against Boro on the basis of Luton’s
SkyblueDad
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Simple fact had that tackle been made on the edge of the box it would have been given as free-kick but we see time and again inside the penalty area they are not given, do they equal out over a season ? not sure
PUSB-We_are_going_up
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Last season we said it would equal out but it didnt 11 conceded 2 given to us
SlowerThanPlatt
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That’s not what it means
That was simply a shocking decision yesterday. It was not only a penalty but a red card as well for high foot studs up. If refs want players to stay on their feet they’ve got to have enough bottle to give them when players try and stay on their feet
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no_loyalty
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It was said on Quest last night that it was a definite penalty.
SkyblueDad
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They can’t really equal out can they some penalties don’t win games do they yesterday’s could well have done. The refereeing standard in the championship needs raising for example every week we have premier referees as the fourth official when they could be used in the championship.
Grendel
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maybe but we also were saved from going behind in a game with a bad offside decision
Calista
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Yeah it's a bit verbose .Had to read that one a few times Wingy
I think my answer is No.
But needed to dribble on to get it across to myself Lol.
Happy_Martian
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Time to watch this space....
Swansea vs Cardiff on Sky TV now. Swansea leading 2-0 and Laird (their winger) has just gone down in the box. Ref gives a corner. Replay shows no contact and another Swansea player has been booked for appealing. Will the FA do anything to Swansea or Laird ?
Swansea vs Cardiff on Sky TV now. Swansea leading 2-0 and Laird (their winger) has just gone down in the box. Ref gives a corner. Replay shows no contact and another Swansea player has been booked for appealing. Will the FA do anything to Swansea or Laird ?
Sky Blue Pete
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Unlikely it’s Sunday
Frostie
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Happy_Martian
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And unfortunately, that is where the rule fails. Football will never be rid of cheating unless stronger action is taken. The ref in this instance gave a corner. If he felt the Swansea player was attempting to win a penalty by deceit, instead of a corner, he should have booked the player for simulation and awarded a freekick to Cardiff. If he genuinely missed it, it should be up to the fourth official or the assessor in the stand to report the incident to the FA for retroactive disciplinary action.
Otherwise, what's to prevent other players from continuing to attempt the same thing knowing there will be no comebacks ?