The pitch (3 Viewers)

[Hobo]

13,000 at Wasps today.

Did the Ulster fans sing 'Your ground's too big for you?'

No, but when the drums went boom boom boom....ULSTER....I think you should have heard Wasps?

 

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[italiahorse]

Coventry rugby club were hardly ever mentioned on this site until wasps turned up

its not a site for rugby

unless its time to talk bees, blaze or bears

The irony is that everybody says go and support them, not Wasps, but most matches clash with ours.
I must admit if i eventually give up I might actually do that.
Saw some highlights the other week and it looks worth a go.

 

[fernandopartridge]

like our 8,600 yesterday ?

not sure we can take the moral high ground

It isn't. It's mocking the credibility of Dick Eastwood and co

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[fernandopartridge]

I am an Ulster fan and it was the state of our team. We did nothing except drop the ball, knock it on and get turned over in possession. Great turnout from Ulster fans, just a shame our team didn't turnout!

Hopefully next time you'll get an Alternative Ulster

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[ccfcway]

It isn't. It's mocking the credibility of Dick Eastwood and co

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we are in no place at all to mock the credibility of owners

 

[ccfcway]

I am an Ulster fan and it was the state of our team. We did nothing except drop the ball, knock it on and get turned over in possession. Great turnout from Ulster fans, just a shame our team didn't turnout!

was a poor display by ulster, time for a change. 2nd best In all big matches in past 3 years.

 

[fernandopartridge]

we are in no place at all to mock the credibility of owners

Yes we are. I'm not Tim Fisher.

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[Nick]

Missed the fun of watching you guys grinding your teeth as I fed you snippets of information.
Bit slow at the moment with Sisu holding out but there is still sport to be had.

If talking shite was a sport, I reckon you could get an international callup.

 

[Otis]

Coventry rugby club were hardly ever mentioned on this site until wasps turned up

its not a site for rugby

unless its time to talk bees, blaze or bears

You've just answered your own statement.

It's a football forum. Of course we hardly ever talked about Cov rugby.

I have never been to watch them but have always had a bit of an interest in their results and always wanted them to do well. Gone back all the way to David Duckham and Rosborough and the likes.

 

[italiahorse]

If talking shite was a sport, I reckon you could get an international callup.

Saying "talking shite" usually means you are struggling to understand.
If you want quantity rather than quality you've done 60,000 more posts than me.

 

[Nick]

Saying "talking shite" usually means you are struggling to understand.
If you want quantity rather than quality you've done 60,000 more posts than me.

It usually means I do understand, hence I can point out you are talking shite. See your last 2 attempts at making a point when you didn't really seem to know what you were on about.

You were the one going on about "sport".

 

[italiahorse]

It usually means I do understand, hence I can point out you are talking shite. See your last 2 attempts at making a point when you didn't really seem to know what you were on about.

You were the one going on about "sport".

Let go of the hook and let someone else have a go.

 

[Nick]

Let go of the hook and let someone else have a go.

Don't think you have got the jist of it, have you?

Posting things and not really knowing what you are talking about and having to be corrected isn't fishing for a reaction...

Mentioning Wasps and seeing you is another story.

 

[Otis]

Don't think you have got the jist of it, have you?

Posting things and not really knowing what you are talking about and having to be corrected isn't fishing for a reaction...

Mentioning Wasps and seeing you is another story.

Wow! I wouldn't say no to that!

That Hawaiian shirt is gorgeous!

 

[chiefdave]

we'd be happy at that for ccfc

Personally I'd be very disappointed if we were a Premier League side playing a Champions League game at the Ricoh and it was less than half full.

.... any comments on a great match ?

Like most people, judging by the ratings, I didn't watch it. Do know Wasps got knocked out of the competition though.

its not a site for rugby unless its time to talk bees, blaze or bears

All of whom have been discussed in the past and I'm sure will in the future.

 

[Liquid Gold]

Yet again italia has done a great job taking the thread off topic to deflect criticism away from his beloved insects.

The state of the pitch should be appalling and we should be demanding a clause in any future agreement whereby rent is reduced if it gets this bad.

 

[NortonSkyBlue]

Yet again italia has done a great job taking the thread off topic to deflect criticism away from his beloved insects.

The state of the pitch should be appalling and we should be demanding a clause in any future agreement whereby rent is reduced if it gets this bad.

I agree about the pitch but are we in a position to demand anything from Wasps? What is our bargaining tool? That we will stay at the Ricoh?

 

[italiahorse]

Yet again italia has done a great job taking the thread off topic to deflect criticism away from his beloved insects.

The state of the pitch should be appalling and we should be demanding a clause in any future agreement whereby rent is reduced if it gets this bad.

I was there so I'm in a position to comment on the pitch after the rugby.
If informative comments are not the 'Wasps slagging' you want to hear then you need to ignore them.

 

[SkyBlueZack]

I was there so I'm in a position to comment on the pitch after the rugby.
If informative comments are not the 'Wasps slagging' you want to hear then you need to ignore them.

The pitch is a mess. Either wasps didn't pay out as much as initially thought or they haven't maintained it properly or they've had their pants pulled down by the pitch supplier. No way should it be as bad as it is.

 

[italiahorse]

Yet again italia has done a great job taking the thread off topic to deflect criticism away from his beloved insects.

The state of the pitch should be appalling and we should be demanding a clause in any future agreement whereby rent is reduced if it gets this bad.

That's the sort of full on deal we need to work on. Should include everything we used to have like shop, offices, related incomes, stadium sponsorship etc etc.
Unfortunate we will only get a one year deal after this one, minimum input to stadium personalisation and no real say on our long term future.

 

[italiahorse]

The pitch is a mess. Either wasps didn't pay out as much as initially thought or they haven't maintained it properly or they've had their pants pulled down by the pitch supplier. No way should it be as bad as it is.

Agree, something is not quite right here.
But don't forget at least they made the effort (poor as it is) to accommodate us with 2 pitch changes.
A lot of rugby teams change the pitches to fully synthetic as will be the case with Coventry rugby club.

 

[SkyBlueZack]

Solely to accommodate us? Can't remember it being like that. I remember them doing it because they like to play expansive rugby.

 

[italiahorse]

Solely to accommodate us? Can't remember it being like that. I remember them doing it because they like to play expansive rugby.

Wasps play a passing game so the better the pitch the better the game.
Saracens seem to be doing well on theirs.

 

[SkyBlueZack]

So relaying the pitch was as much for them as it was CCFC. So let's have less of the they did it for CCFC.

 

[italiahorse]

So relaying the pitch was as much for them as it was CCFC. So let's have less of the they did it for CCFC.

When they came the pitch was atrocious after the marquee had been left up over the summer.
They immediately laid a new grass pitch which seemed okay for football but ridged up like carpet for rugby.
That was relaid in the first summer with the pitch we have now which is mainly grass with a mesh and plastic inserts for a rigid structure.

In rugby and lower level football pitches can be fully synthetic.
In theory a rent of £100K a year that we pay could easily be replaced with other uses of the pitch and less maintenance.
If we were not here I suggest that would almost certainly be the case.

 

[pastythegreat]

When they came the pitch was atrocious after the marquee had been left up over the summer.
They immediately laid a new grass pitch which seemed okay for football but ridged up like carpet for rugby.
That was relaid in the first summer with the pitch we have now which is mainly grass with a mesh and plastic inserts for a rigid structure.

In rugby and lower level football pitches can be fully synthetic.
In theory a rent of £100K a year that we pay could easily be replaced with other uses of the pitch and less maintenance.
If we were not here I suggest that would almost certainly be the case.

It's not as simple a JUST £100k a year rent though is it? How much would they be set to lose in revenue too? Parking, beers, pies.
Also, how many of their regulars were CCFC fans first? How many go there in protest of SISU, etc? If the hauled us out, how many of their "fans" would turn there back on them?
I think it's less about the money they make from us being there and more about public relations!

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[SkyBlueZack]

We don't just contribute 100k a year though. They also have f and b from our games, they have the Ricoh advertised etc. The notion that they can replace the income and exposure we bring is a risky strategy. We're not the burden you and others like to make out.

 

[Nick]

When they came the pitch was atrocious after the marquee had been left up over the summer.
They immediately laid a new grass pitch which seemed okay for football but ridged up like carpet for rugby.
That was relaid in the first summer with the pitch we have now which is mainly grass with a mesh and plastic inserts for a rigid structure.

In rugby and lower level football pitches can be fully synthetic.
In theory a rent of £100K a year that we pay could easily be replaced with other uses of the pitch and less maintenance.
If we were not here I suggest that would almost certainly be the case.

“A natural grass pitch would give you about 300 hours a season, this will give close to a thousand hours, so it’s quite an increase without going to a full synthetic pitch which the professional football world doesn’t allow, although rugby do.”

As to the six million dollar question, will it stand the rigours of a full season of rugby and football, he added: “It should do. As long as it’s maintained. The natural grass might look a bit worn in areas in winter but the green will show through from the synthetic, so aesthetically, it will still look good.”

Every article was mentioning significant cost, Wasps funding new pitch etc.

Has it actually been maintained? What happened to the people who fitted it maintaining it?

 

[italiahorse]

Every article was mentioning significant cost, Wasps funding new pitch etc.

Has it actually been maintained? What happened to the people who fitted it maintaining it?

Not disagreeing, it should be better.
The green does show through close up but from a distance, particularly on TV it shows brown for some reason.
wasps need to make a statement whats going on. I'll ask

 

[italiahorse]

We don't just contribute 100k a year though. They also have f and b from our games, they have the Ricoh advertised etc. The notion that they can replace the income and exposure we bring is a risky strategy. We're not the burden you and others like to make out.

I think we are here as a minor (but positive) contributor to Wasps income but certainly for political reasons.

 

[Nick]

Not disagreeing, it should be better.
The green does show through close up but from a distance, particularly on TV it shows brown for some reason.
wasps need to make a statement whats going on. I'll ask

It will be like last time with an article in the telegraph making out Wasps have got some heat lamps in especially for CCFC and how generous it all is.

The specialist company who fitted it said it would hold up fine if maintained. Either they mis-sold it or it isn't being maintained properly.



It doesn't look very green over that side and watching how bobbly it was on Saturday shows how it isn't very flat or level.

 

[SkyBlueScottie]

With the snow melting yesterday and the ground thawing the water on top had no where to go so it basically sat on top on an already saturated surface, however the pitch has certainly not met the expectations of us or probably Wasps, before we left the pitch was ok, yes it was getting worse and the lack of maintenance obviously had an effect. However something isnt right, Wasps relaid the pitch, which was only a temp measure but this "pitch now is less than 3 years old and looks like a park pitch at times.

 

[Nick]

With the snow melting yesterday and the ground thawing the water on top had no where to go so it basically sat on top on an already saturated surface, however the pitch has certainly not met the expectations of us or probably Wasps, before we left the pitch was ok, yes it was getting worse and the lack of maintenance obviously had an effect. However something isnt right, Wasps relaid the pitch, which was only a temp measure but this "pitch now is less than 3 years old and looks like a park pitch at times.

Surely if it's heated the snow wouldn't settle anyway in the first place?

 

[fernandopartridge]

Surely if it's heated the snow wouldn't settle anyway in the first place?

In fairness you wouldn't have the heaters on the pitch on the day of the match

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[SkyBlueScottie]

Surely if it's heated the snow wouldn't settle anyway in the first place?

who said it would need to settle, it would still melt... ie turn into water...