The Players (2 Viewers)

Diogenes · Sep 28, 2024

We can blame Robins, King or whoever we like but there's no excuse for basic footballing ability or effort and that's on the players.

We are in year 2 with this group and we have hit rock bottom. Barring a few exceptions like MVE my faith in the group is gone.

Promotion is already looking extremely unlikely. I would look at moving as many of these on and starting again the next two windows.

Let's make a profit on Simms, Wright, MVE and hopefully convince someone to slap 8-10 million down on Sheaf. I'd also look at moving on at least one of thomas/kitching and bring in a proven CB.

There are a bunch of players stealing a living atm - let's just shift them on and bring people in that are actually going to fight for the shirt.

Evo1883 · Sep 28, 2024

Diogenes said:
We can blame Robins, King or whoever we like but there's no excuse for basic footballing ability or effort and that's on the players.

We are in year 2 with this group and we have hit rock bottom. Barring a few exceptions like MVE my faith in the group is gone.

Promotion is already looking extremely unlikely. I would look at moving as many of these on and starting again the next two windows.

Let's make a profit on Simms, Wright, MVE and hopefully convince someone to slap 8-10 million down on Sheaf. I'd also look at moving on at least one of thomas/kitching and bring in a proven CB.

There are a bunch of players stealing a living atm - let's just shift them on and bring people in that are actually going to fight for the shirt.

I think at this point fans need to stop obsessing about promotion this season.

The players need to improve because whoever is in charge this is the group we have

clint van damme · Sep 28, 2024

Not sure why MVE gets a pass? He's been awful.

Diogenes · Sep 28, 2024

Evo1883 said:
I think at this point fans need to stop obsessing about promotion this season.

The players need to improve because whoever is in charge this is the group we have

On the plus side, being at the wrong end of the table feels comfortably familiar, nostalgic almost.

Evo1883 · Sep 28, 2024

Also , if we are at a point where these players arent good enough , then huge questions need to be put to Dean Austin and his team

Otis · Sep 28, 2024

Yeah, not sure they are not good enough. Just seems they are not giving their all, or following basic instructions and/or, are playing within themselves.

Points more to apathy and disillusionment, rather than lack of ability.

nicksar · Sep 28, 2024

The right side of our defence has been very poor so far this season (including MVE)....Teams are exploiting the weakness and Leeds were exploiting it straight from the start today.

shmmeee · Sep 28, 2024

When every single player bar the lad from Cov is awful it’s not the players really is it?

Nick · Sep 28, 2024

nicksar said:
The right side of our defence has been very poor so far this season (including MVE)....Teams are exploiting the weakness and Leeds were exploiting it straight from the start today.

It was the same issue against Swansea and fuck all was done about it then.

Its happening with different players there...

bigfatronssba · Sep 28, 2024

Evo1883 said:
I think at this point fans need to stop obsessing about promotion this season.

The players need to improve because whoever is in charge this is the group we have

I think the fans will stop obsessing about that. To the point that it will only be season ticket holders attending games

robbiekeane · Sep 28, 2024

Nick said:
It was the same issue against Swansea and fuck all was done about it then.

Its happening with different players there...

MVE has had fuck all support in front of him and for a player in his role that’s critical

Evo1883 · Sep 28, 2024

bigfatronssba said:
I think the fans will stop obsessing about that. To the point that it will only be season ticket holders attending games

Well that would be more a reflection on the fanbase than anything else

Diogenes · Sep 28, 2024

shmmeee said:
When every single player bar the lad from Cov is awful it’s not the players really is it?

Its not just the players that are the issue but if you think they are putting anything close to a respectable shift in then I hope you don't run a business.

Nick · Sep 28, 2024

robbiekeane said:
MVE has had fuck all support in front of him and for a player in his role that’s critical

Ironically today he played further forward and provided zero support.

It's happening regardless of which players are there.

Its almost as if the system doesn't work.

bigfatronssba · Sep 28, 2024

Evo1883 said:
Well that would be more a reflection on the fanbase than anything else

It would be a reflection of a club with no ambition.

If the players can't be arsed, don't expect fans to be

chiefdave · Sep 28, 2024

Always love the players are all shit posts that also say we should sell them off at a profit. Who is buying these players off us for what we paid, let alone more, if they're as shit as people are saying.

bigfatronssba · Sep 28, 2024

chiefdave said:
Always love the players are all shit posts that also say we should sell them off at a profit. Who is buying these players off us for what we paid, let alone more, if they're as shit as people are saying.

The players aren't shit, that is the problem.

When we had shit players under Robins, they always seemed to try. That is all I ask of them

This lot aren't trying. That is something I can't accept

Evo1883 · Sep 28, 2024

bigfatronssba said:
It would be a reflection of a club with no ambition.

If the players can't be arsed, don't expect fans to be

I disagree , you support your football club regardless and it was that attitude that kept the club afloat during the dark days

Ring Of Steel · Sep 28, 2024

Evo1883 said:
I disagree , you support your football club regardless and it was that attitude that kept the club afloat during the dark days

couldn’t agree more

clint van damme · Sep 28, 2024

bigfatronssba said:
It would be a reflection of a club with no ambition.

If the players can't be arsed, don't expect fans to be

7 games into a season that follows on from 7 succesful seasons and people want to chuck it because of a few bad performances?
Well fuck them. I'd rather be backat Forest Green and they can go back to whatever the fuck they were doing before.

I bet, If I look tomorrow, they'll be a thread or posts on here moaning g about how entitled the fans of some premiership or other are.

The fucking irony.

Nick · Sep 28, 2024

Evo1883 said:
I disagree , you support your football club regardless and it was that attitude that kept the club afloat during the dark days

Agree. I'm pissed off after today, same as Swansea but still going to be there on Tuesday like a bell end.

Its getting like a strange kink.

bigfatronssba · Sep 28, 2024

Evo1883 said:
I disagree , you support your football club regardless and it was that attitude that kept the club afloat during the dark days

Into the super fan stuff again

Most football fans aren't like that.

Most people have limited financial resources and will prioritise their spend.

No Championship club (exception of Sunderland) can pull in 28k+ fans with a team that can't be arsed

bigfatronssba · Sep 28, 2024

clint van damme said:
7 games into a season that follows on from 7 succesful seasons and people want to chuck it because of a few bad performances?
Well fuck them. I'd rather be backat Forest Green and they can go back to whatever the fuck they were doing before.

I bet, If I look tomorrow, they'll be a thread or posts on here moaning g about how entitled the fans of some premiership or other are.

The fucking irony.

That's the spirit.

Lets aim for only having two stands open again, like the good old days. Who needs thousands of paying customers?

Evo1883 · Sep 28, 2024

bigfatronssba said:
Into the super fan stuff again

Most football fans aren't like that.

Most people have limited financial resources and will prioritise their spend.

No Championship club (exception of Sunderland) can pull in 28k+ fans with a team that can't be arsed

No super fan stuff , real stuff.

As clint said , I'd rather be without them

Skyblue Bangkok · Sep 28, 2024

Evo1883 said:
I disagree , you support your football club regardless and it was that attitude that kept the club afloat during the dark days

Except in the dark days it didn't cost a small fortune to attend games..

clint van damme · Sep 28, 2024

bigfatronssba said:
That's the spirit.

Lets aim for only having two stands open again, like the good old days. Who needs thousands of paying customers?

What the fuck are you on about?
It's you who's talking about 2 stands closed because people can't be arsed to take a bit of adversity on the chin.

You've posted a few things tonight that make me question do you actually follow football.

For, at a minimum, 90% of teams, are shite and achieve nothing.

If people want a continuous upward trajectory then not many teams can offer that, and city certainly can't.

rob9872 · Sep 28, 2024

Whether it's Robins, Doug or the players not stepping up, we need leaders.

I said it weeks back and told those times had gone and we were progressive and playing better football.

Now I think a few more are coming round. It doesn't have to just be Fadz or Doyler type as much as id love one, but we've lost experience in the dressing room in the likes of Kelly and Godden, even O'hare was 5 years in our DNA, maybe none of them are the greatest players but you can't replace overnight what they gave us and that should've been recognised.

When Hansen said you can't win anything with kids and was ridiculed all those years back he was right. Ok we're not United, but they still had some experienced players alongside those talented kids.

If it's not addressed we'll continue like this, Robins will pay the price (and tbh if he does, it's probably deserved). No good Doug having a policy of players to make money off if they can't take you anywhere. When the times are tough leaders are even more important.

At 1 nil down today I knew we were done, I never feel like that and usually think we can come back.

Evo1883 · Sep 28, 2024

Skyblue Bangkok said:
Except in the dark days it didn't cost a small fortune to attend games..

It did me , I till spent a small fortune every season

clint van damme · Sep 28, 2024

Nick said:
It was the same issue against Swansea and fuck all was done about it then.

Its happening with different players there...

Said it today and last week, we're shit down the flanks, though thinking about it, we're susceptible dien the middle as well!

bigfatronssba · Sep 28, 2024

clint van damme said:
What the fuck are you on about?
It's you who's talking about 2 stands closed because people can't be arsed to take a bit of adversity on the chin.

You've posted a few things tonight that make me question do you actually follow football.

For, at a minimum, 90% of teams, are shite and achieve nothing.

If people want a continuous upward trajectory then not many teams can offer that, and city certainly can't.

90% of clubs have players that try

You're questioning if I follow football? You appear to be the one who can't see the difference between a bad team that shows effort, and a team that simply doesn't care

AFCCOVENTRY · Sep 28, 2024

Going back to this title thread. The players have been nothing short of a disgrace at times this season. Today was the final straw. Again Sheaf is saying we need to do better blah blah… we heard this after the last game. Yes we want to win games but if we’re going to lose the minimum you want to see is the players fighting and playing for the badge. At the moment we have a bunch of pussies stealing a living and having an easy life. If any of these players don’t want to put 100% effort in each game then get out of this club. There is just no excuse.

Hobo · Sep 28, 2024

Evo1883 said:
I think at this point fans need to stop obsessing about promotion this season.

The players need to improve because whoever is in charge this is the group we have

5'year plan that is in year two? Why some fans are I bought a Premier package and want it now is beyond me? We are turning into a bunch of wingie West Ham fans

clint van damme · Sep 28, 2024

bigfatronssba said:
90% of clubs have players that try

You're questioning if I follow football? You appear to be the one who can't see the difference between a bad team that shows effort, and a team that simply doesn't care

Not disagreeing about the effort. Its piss poor.
I'm questioning people talking about jacking 7 games in to a season after years of success.

Nick · Sep 28, 2024

Hobo said:
5'year plan that is in year two? Why some fans are I bought a Premier package and want it now is beyond me? We are turning into a bunch of wingie West Ham fans

Its in year 3?

bigfatronssba · Sep 28, 2024

clint van damme said:
Not disagreeing about the effort. Its piss poor.
I'm questioning people talking about jacking 7 games in to a season after years of success.

Well I probably am exaggerating about that, but the current trajectory will certainly affect next years season ticket sales, and in my opinion, you'd struggle to say that it would be undeserved

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