torchomatic
Well-Known Member
Well, I should hope the "outraged" on here will be contacting the Council and ACL and demanding that the Ladies team pay a substantial fee and contribute towards the £14M taxpayers put into the Arena last year.
I'm still trying to work out how the Ladies team afford to play there.
Do we know what deal the academy have for next season?
If the stadium is not being used but still being maintained the incremental cost to put on a game is minimal.
I would say for the smaller games its just the centre of the main stand that is used and the bar facilities behind are already open at the time. I would say costs would be covered by F&B.
If the stadium is not being used but still being maintained the incremental cost to put on a game is minimal.
I would say for the smaller games its just the centre of the main stand that is used and the bar facilities behind are already open at the time. I would say costs would be covered by F&B.
If the stadium is not being used but still being maintained the incremental cost to put on a game is minimal.
I would say for the smaller games its just the centre of the main stand that is used and the bar facilities behind are already open at the time. I would say costs would be covered by F&B.
What they could do with is a tenant that would get 10 thousand through the gate the F & B from that would cover costs and then some! Plus parking and even local businesses would benefit.
They could let them play there for free. Anyone know of one?
Regardless of that, ACL still have to pay back CCC don't they? Do how are they managing that would you say?
What costs would be covered?
Wasn't it quoted that Leicester paid £1800 quid? I was quoted £600 - 700 for a birthday party in one of the function rooms for an hour so anything above that I guess.
How would a non league team afford that every other week?
I could never support a phoenix club regardless; if the current club goes under I'm done. It won't be Cov as I know it anymore. I'd probably join mates watching the Blues, Villa and Burton, maybe a once a season trip to watch somebody top class like Arsenal too. I'd never support another team though, be about watching football.
Wasn't it quoted that Leicester paid £1800 quid? I was quoted £600 - 700 for a birthday party in one of the function rooms for an hour so anything above that I guess.
How would a non league team afford that every other week?
A question.. noting I use the word WATCH, not SUPPORT...
Would you go and watch a Phoenix team if it played at the Ricoh on Saturday afternoons ? I am thinking of the generation of kids who are being lost due to to SISU'S actions in playing at Shitfields.
Regardless of that, ACL still have to pay back CCC don't they? Do how are they managing that would you say?
A question.. noting I use the word WATCH, not SUPPORT...
Would you go and watch a Phoenix team if it played at the Ricoh on Saturday afternoons ? I am thinking of the generation of kids who are being lost due to to SISU'S actions in playing at Shitfields.
Technically right but we’re as much a ‘franchise team’ as MK Dons. You can also add that we’re a Phoenix one to boot.We are not a franchised team. Not yet anyway.
Not for me thanks. I'd rather go and watch a local non league side than watch a Phoenix playing at the Ricoh in a lower league than the likes of leamington or nuneaton town.
Oh, and it wouldn't be a Phoenix if ccfc is still in existence…
Technically right but we’re as much a ‘franchise team’ as MK Dons. You can also add that we’re a Phoenix one to boot.
The old CCFC was to two company structure consisting of Coventry City Football Club (Holdings) Ltd which was the historic club and dates back to 1907 and Coventry City Football Club Ltd which was the football club since 1996. This club no longer exists with CCFC Ltd in liquidation and ‘Holdings’ not in the footballing loop.
After the football club went into liquidation the Football League allowed Otium to acquire some of the assets of the old CCFC Ltd and to use the name of Coventry City Football Club. Although not strictly a franchise agreement as the rights transferred to Otium but it was a movement of ‘branding rights’ along with the Golden Share in the Football League. There’s a strong argument that this is as much a franchise agreement (for as long as you’re allowed the Golden Share) as any KFC, McDonalds or Subway.
As far as I’m concerned the CCFC I supported and had shares in is gone. We’re a definite phoenix club that the Football League have allowed to rise and play miles from home. The owners are the worst in the clubs history and all we can expect is more misery from these people for years to come.
The facts suggest that you might already be supporting a Phoenix club – it’s just using the same name as before so it's difficult to spot...
A question.. noting I use the word WATCH, not SUPPORT...
Would you go and watch a Phoenix team if it played at the Ricoh on Saturday afternoons ? I am thinking of the generation of kids who are being lost due to to SISU'S actions in playing at Shitfields.
That is nothing to do with CCFC or football, LOL.
@ torchomatic....Why are you showing "Faux Sympathy" for Coventry tax payers?...You don't live there!
A question.. noting I use the word WATCH, not SUPPORT...
Would you go and watch a Phoenix team if it played at the Ricoh on Saturday afternoons ? I am thinking of the generation of kids who are being lost due to to SISU'S actions in playing at Shitfields.
Voice of Reason, my take is that if this Northampton debacle rolls into another season you'll have people running through walls to see a Coventry team playing at the Ricoh.
I know it isn't nice to think of it - but how many years of this stupidity is any City fan prepared to endure?
Think it was Rich87 who said it may be our only way out of this madness and free ourselves of Sisu.
We are between a rock and a hard place. BUT, and I really STRESS this, it would be a CONTINGENCY plan, with the ultimate aim of forcing Sisu's hand. I've stressed this so many times. Quite a few who jump in opposition completely ignore that aspect.
So please don't sidetrack the issue by questions on finance etc. Willy Stanley probably didn't concern himself too much with that aspect. He just went for it.
Our team play in another town. We've been hijacked. Stolen. Unless Sisu see sense in the close season this club will collapse.
Let's reclaim CCFC. The league & FA aren't interested. I don't think there are a 100 City fans prepared to wait 5 years/forever. I'm not.
What a load of tosh. The majority of clubs in the football league and PL will have changed company structures and ownership since football league began. Are they all Phoenix's?
You're using a technicality in terms of company structures to meet your agenda.
It's nothing like the MK Dins scenario - a permanent move and complete rebranding.
You obviously don't have much understanding of what has gone on with Coventry City over the last few years. And very little of changes in corporate structures at other clubs.
Many other clubs have changed their corporate structures over recent years to separate their 'stadium' ventures from the football clubs. Bristol City is a good example when they separated the football club from Aston Gate a few years ago when Aston Gate Ltd was brought into the corporate structure. Like many clubs this happened under the same ownership. These clubs are not Phoenix clubs - although you seem to think they are.
For me, a Phoenix club is a new company (NewCo) that buys the assets of a previous club - usually after administration or liquidation. Most of the time they leave non-footballing debt behind. I would suggest that Portsmouth are a Phoenix club in the same way that we are. I understand the Football League wanting their competition to have some continuity so they allow this. It's also part of an administration process when assets (including brands) are sold to third parties. It is very difficult for the Football League to deny this as it is lawful in an administration or liquidation. The point that you missed is that the club I supported for years is no more.
And we're nothing like MK Dons? The proposal of a permanent move outside of Coventry but keeping the 'Coventry City' brand. You may be right. It seems we're half way there already... Just a matter distance...
Of course a Pheonix club isn't if a different ltd company takes over the ownership, it is when the whole club (the name, badge, etc) is gone, so something new is sorted.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_club_(association_football)
I thought the Football League confirmed that the whole of Coventry City Football Club was in administration? It seems that we fit the definition perfectly... Many thanks for proving the point.
Our owners were successful in obtaining all of the branding rights, the badges etc. whereas other aren't. Other than that we're guilty!!
TBH, I respect both sides of this. I understand fans want a club to support and I respect that. The Coventry City being supported now is not the same one as before...
A phoenix club is a football club that is created following the demise of an existing club
So every club that goes into admin is now a phoenix club?
There was no demise of the club was there? Have I missed something that Coventry City FC don't exist any more?
Different company yes, but not club.
I thought the Football League confirmed that the whole of Coventry City Football Club was in administration? It seems that we fit the definition perfectly... Many thanks for proving the point.
Our owners were successful in obtaining all of the branding rights, the badges etc. whereas other aren't. Other than that we're guilty!!
TBH, I respect both sides of this. I understand fans want a club to support and I respect that. The Coventry City being supported now is not the same one as before...
Nonsense. When a club is liquidated it has to change its name and restart in the lower pyramid. Newport, Chester etc. the notion that Leicester city is a Pheonix club is bonkers.
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