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djr8369

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  • May 15, 2019
  • #246
Liquid Gold said:
They’ve never quite clarified what that means though have they. Do they want no legal action of any kind or do they just not want to be involved in any. Part of these negotiations could be that they’ve let sisu go after the council if they’re left out of it.
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Yeah last nights news (if true) does support this but then wasps and the council seem to have been working very closely on this issue so far.


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torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • May 15, 2019
  • #247
Magwitch said:
Fuck off Uncle Tom
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That is racist, I presume you realise that?
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • May 15, 2019
  • #248
djr8369 said:
Yeah last nights news (if true) does support this but then wasps and the council seem to have been working very closely on this issue so far.


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Naive to think they haven't been since the start.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • May 15, 2019
  • #249
Just catching up on this really. So, Gilbert says SISU are going to the EU to challenge decision or whatever; he has no proof whether this is true or not. Twitter and here goes into meltdown.

THe club released a statement a few days ago saying they were still in talks, didn't they? So, nothing to worry about.
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • May 15, 2019
  • #250
djr8369 said:
Yeah last nights news (if true) does support this but then wasps and the council seem to have been working very closely on this issue so far.


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I don't know how much of it is "SISU going after the Council". SISU may (or may not) have made a complaint to the European Commission that CCC used public money to support a commercial organisation (Wasps), by selling the Ricoh to them below its value. It would be the EC who will be investigating if there is a case to answer, and it would be them who would be "going after" the Council. Whether they see it as significant enough is up to them, but I Giblet seems to think that they could force Wasps to pay the shortfall back to the public purse. SISU have raised the complaint, but i don't think it is them who would be a party in any legal case.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • May 15, 2019
  • #251
This is Gilbert at his worst Lego head self. He’s done this for attention. There is no public interest and all it will do is rock the Apple cart if negotiations are still ongoing. There is no chance this would have been tweeted if it was a legal matter relating to a new buyer or something like that. It’s just to generate traffic by having a go at sisu. Even if they have gone down this route then let the negotiations play out and NDA expire before ruining everything.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • May 15, 2019
  • #252
Liquid Gold said:
This is Gilbert at his worst Lego head self. He’s done this for attention. There is no public interest and all it will do is rock the Apple cart if negotiations are still ongoing. There is no chance this would have been tweeted if it was a legal matter relating to a new buyer or something like that. It’s just to generate traffic by having a go at sisu. Even if they have gone down this route then let the negotiations play out and NDA expire before ruining everything.
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Add in that Jimmy Hill Way piped up the other day and the weird accounts on social media.

It's part of something
 
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Pusb1

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  • May 15, 2019
  • #253
SSN breaking news is that talks have halted between sisu and wasps....
 

chiefdave

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  • May 15, 2019
  • #254
Liquid Gold said:
This means that they could only be complaining about the UK courts or the council. In no way can this involve the franchise at all so it shouldn't be a barrier to their demands, if they do kick the club out because of this it will only be due to them protecting the council.
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Nick said:
Gilbert has said it doesn't change wasps stance as it's still legals about the ricoh. Wasn't the wasps stance about wasps being involved?
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I have concerns about what is essentially blackmail being used to try and force a legal challenge against a public body to be withdrawn when it involved Wasps. If it doesn't involve them there is no excuse for them then using that as a reason for not allowing the club to stay at the Ricoh.


SkyBlueDom26 said:
Interview didn’t really clear anything up at all, Gilbert spouting his usual bullshit all night we just need to wait and see what comments the main parties make today hopefully
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Haven't Wasps and CCFC already said they won't be commenting?

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chiefdave

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  • May 15, 2019
  • #255
Pusb1 said:
SSN breaking news is that talks have halted between sisu and wasps....
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If correct the key question is did the talks stop before or after Gilbert started stirring things up.
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • May 15, 2019
  • #256
I was surprised they didn't have David JHW Johnson on last night or this morning.
 

torchomatic

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  • May 15, 2019
  • #257
OffenhamSkyBlue said:
I was surprised they didn't have David JHW Johnson on last night or this morning.
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He's a clueless prick. (Hi, David I know you read SBT).
 

jordan210

Well-Known Member
  • May 15, 2019
  • #258
I never realised that the first valuation was done when the stadium was empty and was based on it (iv I'm reading things correct)

Thats like valuing a new build house and selling it on the cheap as no one lives in it yet.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • May 15, 2019
  • #259
Live: European Commission Ricoh complaint is 'not legal action'

Complaint made in feb, apparently now its 'not' legal action
Just what the fuck is going on
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 15, 2019
  • #260
jordan210 said:
I never realised that the first valuation was done when the stadium was empty and was based on it (iv I'm reading things correct)

Thats like valuing a new build house and selling it on the cheap as no one lives in it yet.
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Yep, it was valued with nobody there but sold when there was....
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 15, 2019
  • #261
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Live: European Commission Ricoh complaint is 'not legal action'

Complaint made in feb, apparently now its 'not' legal action
Just what the fuck is going on
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Yeah, now saying it isn't legal action and complaint was made ages ago probably when they knew the appeal wasn't happening.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 15, 2019
  • #262
Nick said:
Yep, it was valued with nobody there but sold when there was....
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It was the sale of the lease than massively hiked the value
 

Skybluefaz

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  • May 15, 2019
  • #263
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Live: European Commission Ricoh complaint is 'not legal action'

Complaint made in feb, apparently now its 'not' legal action
Just what the fuck is going on
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Why the fuck report it now then giblet?
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • May 15, 2019
  • #264
There was no need whatsoever for Gilbert to come out saying what he did
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 15, 2019
  • #265
SkyBlueDom26 said:
There was no need whatsoever for Gilbert to come out saying what he did
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There would have been a reason for it.

Something will probably follow.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • May 15, 2019
  • #266
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Live: European Commission Ricoh complaint is 'not legal action'

Complaint made in feb, apparently now its 'not' legal action
Just what the fuck is going on
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Complete non-story then. Just Gilbert shit stirring. Will not be happy him spouting off yesterday has impacting on the talks for the club to play at the Ricoh next season.
 
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torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • May 15, 2019
  • #267
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Live: European Commission Ricoh complaint is 'not legal action'

Complaint made in feb, apparently now its 'not' legal action
Just what the fuck is going on
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So, what is the point of Gilbert releasing this now at a key stage of the negotiations? I notice he didn't put that in his tweet yesterday. Fuck.
 

jordan210

Well-Known Member
  • May 15, 2019
  • #268
Nick said:
Yep, it was valued with nobody there but sold when there was....
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Where to a sign up to purchase property’s from the council in this manner.

I’m gona be rich I tell you rich!
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • May 15, 2019
  • #269
Telegraph saying this is not seen as “legals”

Complaint was made in February
 

chiefdave

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  • May 15, 2019
  • #270
Nick said:
There would have been a reason for it.

Something will probably follow.
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Its clearly co-ordinated, only have to look at the accounts that fired up in the 48 hours before Gilbert dropping this out.

If, as Sky are now claiming, talks have collapsed, what are the odds that its Wasps who have pulled out and this has been put out to get ahead of the story and have everyone blaming SISU?
 
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Grendel

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  • May 15, 2019
  • #271
torchomatic said:
So, what is the point of Gilbert releasing this now at a key stage of the negotiations? I notice he didn't put that in his tweet yesterday. Fuck.
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At a random guess wasps want there long term rather expensive arrangement agreed to and the club don’t do “another” reason which makes the insects look like the good guys is being introduced through the media?
 
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cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • May 15, 2019
  • #272
chiefdave said:
Its clearly co-ordinated, only have to look at the accounts that fired up in the 48 hours before Gilbert dropping this out.

If, as Sky are now claiming, talks have collapsed, what are the odds that its Wasps who have pulled out and this has been put out to get ahead of the story and have everyone blaming SISU?
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i would imagine talks have stopped while wasps seek to find out what is actually going on
 

chiefdave

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  • May 15, 2019
  • #273
Grendel said:
It was the sale of the lease than massively hiked the value
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Would that be the lease that they voted to extend at the same meeting they voted to sell the Ricoh to Wasps but which is now claimed by the council to be completely unrelated to the sale and a totally separate issue?
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • May 15, 2019
  • #274
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Live: European Commission Ricoh complaint is 'not legal action'

Complaint made in feb, apparently now its 'not' legal action
Just what the fuck is going on
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It isn't legal action in the sense that it isn't a court order
 

vow

Well-Known Member
  • May 15, 2019
  • #275
chiefdave said:
Its clearly co-ordinated, only have to look at the accounts that fired up in the 48 hours before Gilbert dropping this out.

If, as Sky are now claiming, talks have collapsed, what are the odds that its Wasps who have pulled out and this has been put out to get ahead of the story and have everyone blaming SISU?
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Bingo!
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • May 15, 2019
  • #276
The council has leaked this, it is PR i suspect
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • May 15, 2019
  • #277
cc84cov said:
i would imagine talks have stopped while wasps seek to find out what is actually going on
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The point is this story broke late yesterday and Wasps claimed to have no knowledge of it. The twitter accounts all fired up again 48 hours ago, how did they know something was incoming if its not a coordinated PR move?

But your comment is exactly the spin they will put on it and what they want people to believe 'we were in talks then found out about this'.
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • May 15, 2019
  • #278
I can't see anything on sky
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 15, 2019
  • #279
chiefdave said:
Its clearly co-ordinated, only have to look at the accounts that fired up in the 48 hours before Gilbert dropping this out.

If, as Sky are now claiming, talks have collapsed, what are the odds that its Wasps who have pulled out and this has been put out to get ahead of the story and have everyone blaming SISU?
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You can pretty much guarantee it.
 
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SkyBlueCRJ

Well-Known Member
  • May 15, 2019
  • #280
It's definitely a strategic PR move. But if it is the case that talks have collapsed. Firstly, why? Secondly, where on earth are we playing? Hopefully some kind of statement will be issued soon as this has turned into a shitstorm.
 
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