Agree, Eccles really tries and yes he has improved but that still isn't the quality we need...Kelly is a warhorse but now too slow, Palmer...meh...Allen like Eccles really tries but isn't good enough. Sheaf I think is off.. O'Hare is off.....we have a significant midfield issueNo idea why you say Eccles isn't improving. I think he's improving all the time.
Seems to keep getting better.
Definitely one of our best players this season.
Shock horror. Defensive midfielder covering at right wing narrowly misses target with a shot.100% agree. Eccles gets a lot of love on here, and some of it is for good reason, he’s consistent, he tries hard, he can do a bit of everything but my massive issue with the likes of him and Kelly etc is that that real top level quality just isn’t there. Eccles had a decent shot at goal tonight but it hit the side netting, it’s great he’s had a shot and shows willing and is tenacious etc etc but it didn’t end in a goal and that’s all that matters at the end of the day. We can build up play for as long as we like and Eccles can be involved in 26,752 passes in a game but if he’s not consistently creating goal scoring opportunities then it’s all for nothing.
And it’s not just Eccles but the whole midfield, there’s no threat or confidence to run into the box when someone like Haji or Simms has the ball and is looking to cross. There’s just no risk-taking or attacking intent, it’s like hot potato with the ball, no courage or gambling going on, it’s all just way too predictable.
If scored that effort would have been a screamer. What puzzled me more though was when he was yards away from goal with a clear view of it but chose to pass.100% agree. Eccles gets a lot of love on here, and some of it is for good reason, he’s consistent, he tries hard, he can do a bit of everything but my massive issue with the likes of him and Kelly etc is that that real top level quality just isn’t there. Eccles had a decent shot at goal tonight but it hit the side netting, it’s great he’s had a shot and shows willing and is tenacious etc etc but it didn’t end in a goal and that’s all that matters at the end of the day. We can build up play for as long as we like and Eccles can be involved in 26,752 passes in a game but if he’s not consistently creating goal scoring opportunities then it’s all for nothing.
And it’s not just Eccles but the whole midfield, there’s no threat or confidence to run into the box when someone like Haji or Simms has the ball and is looking to cross. There’s just no risk-taking or attacking intent, it’s like hot potato with the ball, no courage or gambling going on, it’s all just way too predictable.
We can’t be faffing about; we need our targets in early, hopefully king has learned thatVik surely will, the question is whether it’s late or early in the window. Even then there’s a question over whether Sheaf needs selling on top of that.
It’s not in our hands on Vik, nor is it really on Sheaf if nobody is willing to pay something acceptable. I get the impression though that we do have our ducks in a row and just need the funds.We can’t be faffing about; we need our targets in early, hopefully king has learned that
Matt there is a reason why most deals get done in Aug and it’s not that club owners and managers don’t want them in early.We can’t be faffing about; we need our targets in early, hopefully king has learned that
Yeah of course he’s not a striker so it’s not like it’s Eccles’ job is to hit the target but at the same time those are the sort of goals we hardly ever score and taking chances like that could really make a difference to our season. The bloke’s got 7 assists and 2 goals over 2 seasons (I think), it’s really just not good enough.Shock horror. Defensive midfielder covering at right wing narrowly misses target with a shot.
I don’t agree about Eccles being first on the team sheet, we should definitely keep him but he shouldn’t be the first name on the team sheet, we need better quality in midfield. Although I do agree that we need a better LB and maybe a stronger CB partnership, it looks too flakey at times.Eccles should be one of first names on teamsheet. Has been excellent this season. Bidwell is fine at LB but we need a better understudy than the midget. We need two experienced CB's
Enlighten us with your expert analysis….I see it's meltdown o'clock then.
Kitchings got the nasty bit downThe signing of 2 experienced nasty bastard leader types would help the team hugely in my opinion . One in Central defence , one in midfield. We need more grit and people who are going to yell at others . This would be a massive benefit on the pitch.
But still not great, as has been alluded to he is a trier but hasn't got that extra quality we are desperately needing, I think he has performed well but not greatNo idea why you say Eccles isn't improving. I think he's improving all the time.
Seems to keep getting better.
Definitely one of our best players this season.
I see it's meltdown o'clock then.
You want to spend £20 million and keep the same CB/RB depth that’s seen Latibeaudiere play 40 times, plus zero backup options at AM?GK (£2m)
MvE Thomas CB (£4m) LB (£2M)
CM (£4m) CM (£2m)
Saka AM (£4m) Wright
Simms
S: Collins, Latubeaudiere, Kitching, Dasilva, Eccles, Torp, EMC, RW (£1m), ST (£1m)
£20m spend. Sheaf £10m, Vik and Gus £10m. One CM and CB to be winning bastards above all else. Maybe save a bit with loans and frees if the quality is there.
Well this is it isn’t it, sheaf will go to fund it
no way a player (probably sheaf) isn’t going if vik doesn’t
hopefully get 12 or so for sheaf
He's at the top end of his game now. And that is barely doing anything for the team. It's not enough from him at his best. We have to be ruthless if you want to acheive. he's a good player but he won't ever uproot trees for us the way hamer did for example. It's just facts you have to face.No idea why you say Eccles isn't improving. I think he's improving all the time.
Seems to keep getting better.
Definitely one of our best players this season.
I can't see Godden being here next season; he strikes me as the type who'd be desperate to play every week.I very much doubt jds or Lati will be offloaded this early (although they aren’t good enough). Godden may choose to sit out his remaining 2 years and play more golf).
The wage bill may be the biggest issue as we’ll probably lose people on the lower end and have to pay big on decent quality).
Recruitment last year on reflection wasn’t great.
Harsh on Eccles; he still has time to develop further.He's at the top end of his game now. And that is barely doing anything for the team. It's not enough from him at his best. We have to be ruthless if you want to acheive. he's a good player but he won't ever uproot trees for us the way hamer did for example. It's just facts you have to face.
Barely doing anything for the team?He's at the top end of his game now. And that is barely doing anything for the team. It's not enough from him at his best. We have to be ruthless if you want to acheive. he's a good player but he won't ever uproot trees for us the way hamer did for example. It's just facts you have to face.
You want to spend £20 million and keep the same CB/RB depth that’s seen Latibeaudiere play 40 times, plus zero backup options at AM?
Not sure about that. But it will be a bit humiliating if the likes of Daush are getting games before him.I can't see Godden being here next season; he strikes me as the type who'd be desperate to play every week.
Eccles is definitely worth persisting with. Braver than most and willing to adapt and learn.He's at the top end of his game now. And that is barely doing anything for the team. It's not enough from him at his best. We have to be ruthless if you want to acheive. he's a good player but he won't ever uproot trees for us the way hamer did for example. It's just facts you have to face.
I think Godden's lack of game time since December is telling. Robins loves Matty Godden, but he's not sentimental. The lack of Jamie Allen (particularly last night) also suggests to me he's going.Not sure about that. But it will be a bit humiliating if the likes of Daush are getting games before him.
Captain material I'd think!Eccles goes under the radar but is he is superb at doing the subtle things well and keeps the ship steady
You need that in team
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