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SleepyGinger

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #176
Dimi_Konstantflapalot said:
The narrow diamond gives me shivers as all I can remember about it is Thorn using it - Bigi at the base, Baker and David Bell in the middle and McSheffrey at the tip
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Christ that brings back bad memories, how did we ever think we could play that in the championship
 

Mr Panda

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #177
Dimi_Konstantflapalot said:
The narrow diamond gives me shivers as all I can remember about it is Thorn using it - Bigi at the base, Baker and David Bell in the middle and McSheffrey at the tip
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The worst porn video ever
 
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shmmeee

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #178
You’d have to put Walsh in Allen’s role, which I’m not sure he’s suited to. Or next to Hamer but they’re both very similar and lacking in height. Or you go 3511 which seems a bit too defensive.

In all seriousness, without dropping Hamer or massively changing our system, where could you fit him in?
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #179
shmmeee said:
You’d have to put Walsh in Allen’s role, which I’m not sure he’s suited to. Or next to Hamer but they’re both very similar and lacking in height. Or you go 3511 which seems a bit too defensive.

In all seriousness, without dropping Hamer or massively changing our system, where could you fit him in?
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I think he would do just fine in Allen’s role.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #180
I think him and Hamer would work. Kelly isn't the tallest either. It would take away some of Hamer's attacking instincts but he's got more than enough about him to play the defensive role alongside Walsh IMO.
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #181
Liquid Gold said:
I think him and Hamer would work. Kelly isn't the tallest either. It would take away some of Hamer's attacking instincts but he's got more than enough about him to play the defensive role alongside Walsh IMO.
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Maybe. Not seen enough of Sheaf yet but I like having someone a bit more defensively minded in there, especially with Giles at LWB.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #182
SleepyGinger said:
Christ that brings back bad memories, how did we ever think we could play that in the championship
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At the time the majority were raving about it for some bizarre reason.
 
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skybluesam66

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #183
Sick Boy said:
At the time the majority were raving about it for some bizarre reason.
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Disagree. I think we knew from game 1 that we were going down that season
 

mr_monkey

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #184
Liquid Gold said:
I think him and Hamer would work. Kelly isn't the tallest either. It would take away some of Hamer's attacking instincts but he's got more than enough about him to play the defensive role alongside Walsh IMO.
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Just think it's a waste of hamer to play him more defensively, alongside sheaf or Kelly he will shine even more than he already has
 

Hadji's_Goatee

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #185
mr_monkey said:
Just think it's a waste of hamer to play him more defensively, alongside sheaf or Kelly he will shine even more than he already has
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Walsh got forward loads in the box mid. Hamer can do the same. The box’s strength is rotation.
 
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robbiekeane

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #186
It’s not happening guys let it go
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #187
skybluesam66 said:
Disagree. I think we knew from game 1 that we were going down that season
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It was obvious when we replaced Westwood, King, and Gunarsson with Joe Murphy and Chris Dunn.

Cracking pre-season that
 
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PVA

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #188
Not in their squad again tonight, even despite making 8 changes he STILL can't get in the team!! It's definitely happening!!!














Must be quite a bad injury.
 

Frostie

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #189
SleepyGinger said:
Christ that brings back bad memories, how did we ever think we could play that in the championship
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Especially the way we played it. Thorn had very limited tactical knowhow. We were exploited by the diagonal ball to the flanks in EVERY single game yet he had no idea how to prevent it.
 

Hobo

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #190
Why buy a player who is clearly out of their side because of injury? Suggest we shelve this thread until January if not longer?
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #191
It's nice that he's avoiding signing his contract so he can join us for free/cheap. Good lad.
 
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Alkhen

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  • Sep 25, 2020
  • #192
robbiekeane said:
It’s not happening guys let it go
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KenilworthSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 25, 2020
  • #193
Frostie said:
Especially the way we played it. Thorn had very limited tactical knowhow. We were exploited by the diagonal ball to the flanks in EVERY single game yet he had no idea how to prevent it.
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Great scout, terrible manager. I remember him claiming when we first used the diamond formation, that it would be some kind of secret weapon and the opposition wouldn't know how to deal with it.

His repetitive post-match interviews always frustrated me as well. Gave needless praise all too often and never seemed to actually know what went wrong or why.

Can't be too critical though as at the end of the day from my experience, he was a nice guy who got thrown into the deep end.
 
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Londonccfcfan

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 25, 2020
  • #194
Really dont get the obsession with Walsh.
We have Hamer and Sheaf now! Who are more than adequate replacements imo Hamer a definate upgrade. Woth Sheaf signs are promising.

Be really interesting to see if Robins sticks with Shipley in defensive midfield role or brings in Sheaf.

Personally i would definately start with 2 defensive minded natural midfielders tommorow vs Barnsley.

The other change we might see is possibly Shipley for Allen.

Also with Kelly likely to miss maximum of just another 2 games as theres a 2 week break after. We have plenty of options.
 
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skyblueelephant76

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  • Sep 25, 2020
  • #195
Londonccfcfan said:
Really dont get the obsession with Walsh.
We have Hamer and Sheaf now! Who are more than adequate replacements imo Hamer a definate upgrade. Woth Sheaf signs are promising.

Be really interesting to see if Robins sticks with Shipley in defensive midfield role or brings in Sheaf.

Personally i would definately start with 2 defensive minded natural midfielders tommorow vs Barnsley.

The other change we might see is possibly Shipley for Allen.

Also with Kelly likely to miss maximum of just another 2 games as theres a 2 week break after. We have plenty of options.
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Kelly started training today so should be available for next week.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 25, 2020
  • #196
Not sure about the scouting. He seemed like a nice enough bloke, but given his 'Crazy Gang' background felt very solemn, not much of a motivator.

KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Great scout, terrible manager. I remember him claiming when we first used the diamond formation, that it would be some kind of secret weapon and the opposition wouldn't know how to deal with it.

His repetitive post-match interviews always frustrated me as well. Gave needless praise all too often and never seemed to actually know what went wrong or why.

Can't be too critical though as at the end of the day from my experience, he was a nice guy who got thrown into the deep end.
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Sep 25, 2020
  • #197
fernandopartridge said:
Not sure about the scouting. He seemed like a nice enough bloke, but given his 'Crazy Gang' background felt very solemn, not much of a motivator.
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He arrived in 2007 so I'm sure he would've certainly had a hand in targeting the likes of Dann, Fox, Gunnarsson, Westwood, Cranie, Keogh, Jutkiewicz. Although there was a wash of cannon fodder over the course of his tenure as scout and manager, so I'll take your point.

I met him on a number of occasions and he was a really nice guy, but admittedly it always struck me how he was actually a 'manager', as he was the most quiet and unassuming person you'd meet. Typically someone you'd associate with a 'behind the scenes' role. (i.e. Scout). Like you said, not much of a motivator and someone you wouldn't particularly want leading the charge if things got ugly and his team found themselves struggling.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 27, 2020
  • #198
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
He arrived in 2007 so I'm sure he would've certainly had a hand in targeting the likes of Dann, Fox, Gunnarsson, Westwood, Cranie, Keogh, Jutkiewicz. Although there was a wash of cannon fodder over the course of his tenure as scout and manager, so I'll take your point.

I met him on a number of occasions and he was a really nice guy, but admittedly it always struck me how he was actually a 'manager', as he was the most quiet and unassuming person you'd meet. Typically someone you'd associate with a 'behind the scenes' role. (i.e. Scout). Like you said, not much of a motivator and someone you wouldn't particularly want leading the charge if things got ugly and his team found themselves struggling.
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And so the myth and legend continues even to this day. He joined the club in the summer of 2008, SISU bought the club in December 2007.
Both Dann and Fox were signed before he was even at the club - Gunnarsson was also recommended by someone else. He was also responsible for the scouting of a lot of dross as well.
 
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Grendel

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  • Sep 27, 2020
  • #199
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Great scout, terrible manager. I remember him claiming when we first used the diamond formation, that it would be some kind of secret weapon and the opposition wouldn't know how to deal with it.

His repetitive post-match interviews always frustrated me as well. Gave needless praise all too often and never seemed to actually know what went wrong or why.

Can't be too critical though as at the end of the day from my experience, he was a nice guy who got thrown into the deep end.
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He was at best a mediocre scout
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Sep 27, 2020
  • #200
Sick Boy said:
And so the myth and legend continues even to this day. He joined the club in the summer of 2008, SISU bought the club in December 2007.
Both Dann and Fox were signed before he was even at the club - Gunnarsson was also recommended by someone else. He was also responsible for the scouting of a lot of dross as well.
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Thorn came to the club in June 2007. Here's an excerpt from an article posted on the CCFC website where it states it.

"Currently in his fifth season as a full-time scout for West Bromwich Albion, Thorn came to Coventry in June 2007 as a scout appointed by Ray Ranson."

SUPREMOS: We profile former boss Andy Thorn

Mark Robins is the latest in a long line of Sky Blue Supremos, the men who have tried to bring success to City. In this series first published in matchday programme PUSB, writer Rob Mason reflects on the highs and lows on those who have occupied the hot-seat.
www.ccfc.co.uk
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 27, 2020
  • #201
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Thorn came to the club in June 2007. Here's an excerpt from an article posted on the CCFC website where it states it.

"Currently in his fifth season as a full-time scout for West Bromwich Albion, Thorn came to Coventry in June 2007 as a scout appointed by Ray Ranson."

SUPREMOS: We profile former boss Andy Thorn

Mark Robins is the latest in a long line of Sky Blue Supremos, the men who have tried to bring success to City. In this series first published in matchday programme PUSB, writer Rob Mason reflects on the highs and lows on those who have occupied the hot-seat.
www.ccfc.co.uk
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But SISU and Ranson didn’t arrive till December that year?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 27, 2020
  • #202
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Thorn came to the club in June 2007. Here's an excerpt from an article posted on the CCFC website where it states it.

"Currently in his fifth season as a full-time scout for West Bromwich Albion, Thorn came to Coventry in June 2007 as a scout appointed by Ray Ranson."

SUPREMOS: We profile former boss Andy Thorn

Mark Robins is the latest in a long line of Sky Blue Supremos, the men who have tried to bring success to City. In this series first published in matchday programme PUSB, writer Rob Mason reflects on the highs and lows on those who have occupied the hot-seat.
www.ccfc.co.uk
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How did Ranson appoint him as a scout in June 2007? The article has the wrong date.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 27, 2020
  • #203
Brighton Sky Blue said:
But SISU and Ranson didn’t arrive till October that year?
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It was 14th December
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 27, 2020
  • #204
Sick Boy said:
It was 14th December
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Edited my memory was fuzzy
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Sep 27, 2020
  • #205
Sick Boy said:
How did Ranson appoint him as a scout in June 2007? The article has the wrong date.
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Very true My bad, got my dates mixed up. Perhaps he wasn't such a good of a scout as I remember.
 

lordy_87

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  • Sep 27, 2020
  • #206
Gus is better than him. Move on
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 27, 2020
  • #207
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Very true My bad, got my dates mixed up. Perhaps he wasn't such a good of a scout as I remember.
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According to transfermarkt he was hired as scout in April ‘08
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Sep 27, 2020
  • #208
Brighton Sky Blue said:
According to transfermarkt he was hired as scout in April ‘08
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The copywriter for the club website clearly just took a wild stab then
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 27, 2020
  • #209
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
The copywriter for the club website clearly just took a wild stab then
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It would also mean he had no part in signing Fox and Dann
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 27, 2020
  • #210
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It would also mean he had no part in signing Fox and Dann
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My favourite was always how Thorn was responsible for the better signings but the dross ones were signed by the board - it was actually like some kind of weird cult.
 
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