There's A Vital Match Tonight and We Are Still Arguing Over Ricoh - Thanks SISU/ACL (2 Viewers)

[ashbyjan]

Tonight's match, along with Saturdays against the monkeyhangers, will go a long way to deciding whether we make the play-offs or not yet most of the threads on here are about ACL, SISU, the Ricoh, liquidation, administration etc.

The worst aspect of this whole issue is the divisions it seems to have caused between fans of the same club - its different arguing over whether Bell should be sold to Pedigree Dog Food or still has some value as a player but when we are reduced to discussing whether we would prefer Admin or Liquidation its a sad day.

The blame for all this falls at the doors of both ACL and CCFC for not sorting the matter out months ago. The Sky Blue Trust is calling for arbitration to sort out the sorry mess once and for all before its too late.

http://www.skybluetrust.co.uk/index...st-press-release-12032013&catid=1:latest-news

 

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[ccfcway]

Elvis wouldnt have come if there was a problem,he said so himself

 

[Ashdown1]

I'd go for Pedigree !!

 

[The Penguin]

I'd go for Pedigree !!

It's probably quicker and less prone to injury.

 

[RoboCCFC90]

Pedigree Dog Food would probably believe they are above David Bell!

But well said Ashbyjan, I have to admit I don't always agree with what you say, but I am 100% behind you here, everyone has there opinions on who's to blame and what's to balem but that all needs to be put to one side and we all need to Sing Together!!

 

[ashbyjan]

Robo - life, and especially a forum, would be boring if we all agreed with each other all the time

 

[SkyBlueScottie]

Tonight's match, along with Saturdays against the monkeyhangers, will go a long way to deciding whether we make the play-offs or not yet most of the threads on here are about ACL, SISU, the Ricoh, liquidation, administration etc.

The worst aspect of this whole issue is the divisions it seems to have caused between fans of the same club - its different arguing over whether Bell should be sold to Pedigree Dog Food or still has some value as a player but when we are reduced to discussing whether we would prefer Admin or Liquidation its a sad day.

The blame for all this falls at the doors of both ACL and CCFC for not sorting the matter out months ago. The Sky Blue Trust is calling for arbitration to sort out the sorry mess once and for all before its too late.

http://www.skybluetrust.co.uk/index...st-press-release-12032013&catid=1:latest-news

Good stuff, has this statement been sent to the Telegraph as I noticed they seem to be slow to notice what you are doing / saying.

 

[Warwickhunt]

Tonight's match, along with Saturdays against the monkeyhangers, will go a long way to deciding whether we make the play-offs or not yet most of the threads on here are about ACL, SISU, the Ricoh, liquidation, administration etc.

The worst aspect of this whole issue is the divisions it seems to have caused between fans of the same club - its different arguing over whether Bell should be sold to Pedigree Dog Food or still has some value as a player but when we are reduced to discussing whether we would prefer Admin or Liquidation its a sad day.

The blame for all this falls at the doors of both ACL and CCFC for not sorting the matter out months ago. The Sky Blue Trust is calling for arbitration to sort out the sorry mess once and for all before its too late.

http://www.skybluetrust.co.uk/index...st-press-release-12032013&catid=1:latest-news

I would think that making the playoffs would change some of the decisions they are going to make? If we get a Wembly Visit thats a huge wedge of money that would not have been accounted for in the books and that could make a difference of breaking even (I am sure we would get 40K people there) and if we got promoted then that could put us into a positive situation as that would immediatly put £4 mill into the coffers. Providing the ACL(council I dont see the difference) dont play silly buggers before the 2nd May - I see this period of time as the SISU game plan to either payup or close the shop down. So I agree we should just get on and concentrate about the Matches because we can do something about those by getting people off there backsides up to the remaining games to give the players the extra push they may need

 

[ashbyjan]

Has been sent to CT, Cov Observer, CWR, Free Radio and othe regional papers

 

[stupot07]

Good stuff Jan, glad to see you have partitioned the blame at both parties. We have to maintain a balanced view on this.

 

[shropshirecov]

I don't know if I wanna see a deal reached where we pay 400k a year rent, when other clubs we are supposed to be competing with get theirs for 10 grand. It's just delaying the inevitable. We can never be competitive

 

[blueflint]

I don't know if I wanna see a deal reached where we pay 400k a year rent, when other clubs we are supposed to be competing with get theirs for 10 grand. It's just delaying the inevitable. We can never be competitive

but you cant compare our ricoh stadium with any other in this division as the ricoh is far superior to them so rent will be superior as well economics say so

 

[Nick]

This line :

Given all of the above, the Sky Blue Trust once again calls for both parties to see sense and come back to the negotiating table and agree to binding arbitration. The Trust has secured the agreement of world renowned football finance and management expert Dr John Beech to act as arbitrator. While this is the Trusts preferred option we wish to explore all possible avenues to a solution so a mediation process would not be discounted.

I am not sure if it is just me but it just reads as if the SBT have the final say over all of the agreements?

 

[RoboCCFC90]

This line :



I am not sure if it is just me but it just reads as if the SBT have the final say over all of the agreements?

If so no wonder things have gone down the toilet

 

[Gint11]

Tonight and Saturday against Hartlepool are MUST wins. We dont win these two then forget the playoffs.

 

[ashbyjan]

Think you're over thinking Nick ! All the Trust are saying is everyone is fed up with this thing rumbling on and on and we want both sides to agree with each other (not the Trust) to arbitration. We have spoken to John Beech who has agreed to act as arbitrator. If the two sides won't agree to arbitration then they should consider mediation but it wouldn't be the best option in our opinion.

 

[Nick]

Think you're over thinking Nick ! All the Trust are saying is everyone is fed up with this thing rumbling on and on and we want both sides to agree with each other (not the Trust) to arbitration. We have spoken to John Beech who has agreed to act as arbitrator. If the two sides won't agree to arbitration then they should consider mediation but it wouldn't be the best option in our opinion.

I know but surely both ACL or SISU would have done that if they wanted to as they are both quite business savvy.

 

[ashbyjan]

The problem is that the level of trust between the two parties is non existent - the deal should be straight forward and could be agreed, if kept simple, in an afternoon but so far has taken almost a year and we are now at the stage of liquidation, administration, 3rd Party Debt Orders etc - it has become very personal and that is when any business deal becomes dangerous. All we are saying is between them they appear incapable of coming to a simple decision let a third party come in a make the decision for them both.

 

[ashbyjan]

The only problem will be when they spend the next 3 months arguing over who the arbitrator is to be, what the terms of reference will be, what matters should be covered, what will be put in the public domain etc etc and in the meantime Joe's famous clock will be ticking. Ideally they would sign an interim deal until the arbitrator rules and then any over or under payments accrued during the arbitration period would be credited/debited.

 

[Paxman II]

So we appoint a new manager that has gone through a long process and given him guarantees, a 3.5 year contract and we are possibly heading towards the play offs and a chance of promotion but we now say within a week that we may file Admin or liquidate the club?

Scaremongering to the extreme. Will ACL listen? Do they have a choice? What Fisher has done is firmly placed the ball in ACL's court where they are now legally obliged to respond.

Anyone who thinks SISU would shut up shop because they won't pay £400k rent is on another planet, a rent they have stated they agree to! What will Fisher say next week after that statement? If they meant it what is the benefit to SISU here?

Just imagine for a moment Pressley sues for being given a contract that was a lie just 2 weeks ago? 3.5 years at say £100k? Plus compensation and cost added. Then more law suits added to that by many others?

There is a passionate underbelly to all of this and as far as I can tell something is missing from this story because it sure as hell makes no sense even at the simplest of levels like appointing a new manager last week. If this was in their thoughts why do that? Why bother?

The damage being caused by all this to the team can't be ignored. Last month there were threats of players not being paid but eventually were. Now this?

I'm begining to wonder if they inhabit a different planet from the rest of us?