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Look lets get this straight. Any new tin pot stadium built by our owners would NEVER be able to compete with the Ricoh and the NEC for business.
I think an announcement regarding land might just be closer than many think
Links, squarefootage, facilities, location. Remember this is going to be a "modular", stadium in the back of beyond. I very doubt that the facilities will even include a travel lodge.Why?
Why?
I don't see any reason to debate this
I still don't know weather you've gone nuts or are on the windup.
There you go again RFC intimating that you know more than us.......but you don't.Will it be built? I don't know but believe it will, still plenty of activity behind the scenes and a few high profile people beavering away.
Is it feasible? Most definitely yes, as I'd anticipate AEG being involved to manage & maximise revenue streams.
The Ricoh has never been home we have only ever been and would continue to be tenants and the match day experience is only going to get worse, especially when the rugby starts.
As for the pitch it currently has to be one of the worst in the football league (not that it would bother either CCC or ACL) and one things for sure, it's only going to get worse!
I think an announcement regarding land might just be closer than many think, fingers crossed PUSB!
So you're saying that the Ricoh would go for a different type of exhibition to the NEC... but a rival would be forced to position itself in exactly the same way to the Ricoh...?
Just how plausible is it? When I visit the Ricoh as yesterday I walk around to the entry turnstile and think to myself wow, how did we lose this asset? It's been a shambles. But there may be ways forward. Personally I'd like the stadium used for many sports including Speedway even. That was never grasped by the encumbered ACL. Bums on seats was the name of the game. I doubt WASP will ever produce more than several thousand fans in there ever. Yesterday our so called club in decline still managed over 8k fans and if the club reach back into the prem 25k+ would be common.
So WASP have a true incentive to look at CCFC as a long standing tenant. The football club are better off now than when they left for Sixfileds as it happens, at least for the next few years.
The long term they are either bought out by WASP which seems an obvious idea for me or they branch away and build this modular stadium designed to increase capacity as needed. Again how truly plausible is it?
Would developers pay for it? Would SISU/Arvo/Otium or whichever division hold that mortgage or the football club?
Would there be large development around the stadium such as Tesco, restaurants etc? And how would such a stadium compete with the Ricoh or would it seriously affect WASP running of the Ricoh?
It's an interest conundrum but for some to suggest another stadium is pure fantasy may not be correct.
So you claim people don't come up with ideas that stack up financially, then call them WUMs...
Will it be built? I don't know but believe it will, still plenty of activity behind the scenes and a few high profile people beavering away.
Is it feasible? Most definitely yes, as I'd anticipate AEG being involved to manage & maximise revenue streams.
The Ricoh has never been home we have only ever been and would continue to be tenants and the match day experience is only going to get worse, especially when the rugby starts.
As for the pitch it currently has to be one of the worst in the football league (not that it would bother either CCC or ACL) and one things for sure, it's only going to get worse!
I think an announcement regarding land might just be closer than many think, fingers crossed PUSB!
Well in a way that is exactly the point. The build costs only get added meaning it will then £80 mill..........Absolutely no way of recovery.£50 million to retrieve
How does building the new stadium retrieve it?
There's every reason to debate this. Why can't a rival compete for business with the Ricoh?
Will it be built? I don't know but believe it will, still plenty of activity behind the scenes and a few high profile people beavering away.
Is it feasible? Most definitely yes, as I'd anticipate AEG being involved to manage & maximise revenue streams.
The Ricoh has never been home we have only ever been and would continue to be tenants and the match day experience is only going to get worse, especially when the rugby starts.
As for the pitch it currently has to be one of the worst in the football league (not that it would bother either CCC or ACL) and one things for sure, it's only going to get worse!
I think an announcement regarding land might just be closer than many think, fingers crossed PUSB!
Will it be built? I don't know but believe it will, still plenty of activity behind the scenes and a few high profile people beavering away.
Is it feasible? Most definitely yes, as I'd anticipate AEG being involved to manage & maximise revenue streams.
The Ricoh has never been home we have only ever been and would continue to be tenants and the match day experience is only going to get worse, especially when the rugby starts.
As for the pitch it currently has to be one of the worst in the football league (not that it would bother either CCC or ACL) and one things for sure, it's only going to get worse!
I think an announcement regarding land might just be closer than many think, fingers crossed PUSB!
The question is: at what point is more economic to cash in and get say 10m ( just a figure ) and then use this to invest in something that will bring a profit, rather than plod along with a mediocre 3 division football team which brings in just enough to cover investors interest at best and at worst loses more money. Maybe ask Wasps if they have Investors who want to make an offer - just to test the water?
the new stadium still wouldn't be viable.
On the question of the pitch, have Wasps not said that they intend to invest in it during the summer?Can you put some figures together to show how it could be achieved ?
I understand the problems with the Ricoh, I understand it's not worth £24M (ACL £10M + Loan £14M) so £25M gets us what sort of stadium and how is it financed ?
On the question of the pitch, have Wasps not said that they intend to invest in it during the summer?
you posted that last time you were unable to debate.
There's every reason to debate this. Why can't a rival compete for business with the Ricoh?
For the same reason SISU cant build a succesful football team or a succesful legal team. They're fucking idiots.
The fact that SISU are involved is enough. Its doomed at conception, SISU are in its DNA.
You don't debate, you're too closed minded for that.
NW, based on what we all know about sisu, and the last 7 years under their management, what evidence is there that they are capable of creating a profit making stadium? Everything they attempt they fail at.
They have even admitted themselves that they make investments into areas of which they know almost nothing. They had no experience of running a football club, and they have no experience of building stadiums.
There you go again RFC intimating that you know more than us.......but you don't.
See above, replied to out of courtesy
You are on the wind up for sure.
Yes he beat me to it! Pretty much the same question.
tbf, that is undoubtedly the best reason!
One could say, however, that whatever they decide to do will fail. So in which case, best to campaign for what gives the club the best chance of success once they do complete said failure.
To my mind, having a (sane!) site for a new stadium with (sane!) planning permission in place, and a commitment from the local council to get behind it gives the club the best chance of building, once we get our altruistic competent consortium coming along post-SISU.
Locking CCFC in to a 150 year deal in a ground that isn't theirs dilutes what little DNA is left still further, to my mind. So... I'd rather an extended deal for 10 years at the Ricoh to let the charade play out, and then get to planning properly... unencumbered by the negative history.
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