Nonleagueherewecome
Well-Known Member
Oh no, that's not the case at all-didn't you read what Godiva said? It's actually costing SISU £1m a year, but they're such great owners, they're pumping that in out of the kindness of their hearts....
Selling youth players to get by is quite a common business model in the lower leagues apparently according to the Secret Footballer, in his book he was looking at getting involved with a football club. It doesn't sound like the club was us though.
What utter shite. Nothing has changed since the return to The Ricoh-name what has changed about the academy or finances since then? You can't, as you made it up to suit your pro-SISU worldview. No point having an academy asnyway as SISU just sell them as soon as we get a bid and the money is never re-invested in the playing side.
What tripe. But then you've been doing their PR for a good 3years or so now, haven't you?
You're trying to make out that me not forgiving SISU is the same as them not changing their spot's re: having an open dialogue with the fans? No: in my case, it is a case of having principles, anger and passion. I will never forgive them because what they have done is unforgiveable-and it's further evidence that you have never been a Coventry City fan that you so patronisingly think I should. Them not having a dialogue with fans is not because of principles :it's because they really don't give a shit about us and their main priority is to mislead us and keep us in the dark as much as possible.
I also won't forgive SISU because they have done absolutely nothing-nada, zilch, zero-to merit forgiveness. They may have changed "strategy" a few times, but in no way have they improved their behaviour or treated the supporter's with a modicum of respect.
It's hard to tell if you're being sarcastic or not...."the team cost nothing"? Where did I say that it did (although in terms of transfer fees, aside from Barton, that is of course correct). Of course, they are paying wages and signing on fees-but not more than should be the budget for a team our size with our gates. Are you trying to imply that they are "propping us up"? I think we could have made up the shortfall between income and costs for this season from Juke's sell on fee alone without even touching the Wilson, Cyrus or Arsenal money.
As for the academy-that's their biggest income generator. Wilson alone raised enough to pay your supposed £1m extra per year for the next 3 and a half years. They'd been even dumber than I think if they are considering getting rid of such a nice little earner.
Yacht parties in the Bahamas? What? :facepalm:
You couldn't sound more like Joy's little lapdog if you tried.
Yes, my post was sarcastic. It was a reaction to your first post. Read it again, it's full of ramblings and nonsense.
To be fair every post since his first have been the same.
Yeah....these 2
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - so please excuse any spelling or grammar errors
Hold on, just need something to help me find them...
Yes, my post was sarcastic. It was a reaction to your first post. Read it again, it's full of ramblings and nonsense.
What changes to the finance or the academy did you expect 'since the return to the Ricoh'? It's only 4 month to the day. No financial reports has been released to show any change - and actually won't be released for quite some time. And the academy? What can change in 4 month? It cost money but - as you have figured out yourself - it produces talent that can be sold to keep the club floating. So yes, there really is a point of having the academy in contrary to what you wrote in your post.
As for my opinions over the last 4 years I have been posting here (and before that when I posted on GMK) - well, they haven't really changed as you point out. I am still the believer of balancing the books and owing our stadium as the only way to ever regain a position in the top flight. Sisu wasted the first three years of their tenure letting Ranson/Hoffman/Elliott spending £10m on putting us back in the same financial mess we were in under the previous regime, but at least they have recognized their failure and changed strategy.
I don't expect you to ever forgive sisu their previous failures. Why should you?
I will never forgive them for letting the golden opportunity they had when they took over be wasted so miserably by the 'holy trinity' of local businessmen and a real football man. Why should I?
Actually I will just read the thread now.
Bang on!
The only thing I can see is that certain people get involved in these protests and then wonder why SISU don't speak to them....
I wonder who these consortiums are?
It does all fit in place.
I wonder if there was any promise of fan ownership involved???
If there's anyone serious about taking us over the best way to get the fans onside is make it public, show they are serious and have a plan that could see the club be successful. There's been too much of we know someone who will take us over through recent years.
I'm happy to protest against SISU if new owners can show how they are going to generate more income then the match day revenue we currently receive.
Any new owner will have to buy into ACL or build a new stadium. I think it s that simple!
Unless there is more in this thread I have not read yet
Who said anyone Is Interested and who has said anything about Micheals thinking Is ~ Tied In to either alleged Swindon protest,the trust ,or their getting a seat on the board.
I think you've all added 2+2+2 and come up with 9.
As I said In the thread I think there Is a level of Paranoia surfacing around a loose theory Micheal Is throwing out there .
JMO
Whoever is organising the protest said people are interested.
You may call it paranoia, others may call it being dubious and a bit obvious. People keep going on about learning from the past, instead they keep following blindly.
I can assure you there Is No connection between Micheal floating a quizzical Idea on a way to help the Club or the trust knowing Micheal Is
theory out there or the Trust being behind this alleged protest .
hardline angle and may lead to splitting the thinking within the trust and leave you with the type of trust you desire ,IE blindly following and
promoting the failed Visions of Tim Fisher et al.
Where have I said I want a trust to just blindly follow the club, you must have been mistaken as I said one that doesn't blindly follow random americans, rugby teams and stadium management companies.
OK a simple question ,one I've mentioned a fair bit lately not too far removed from Micheals thinking ,but simpler and with the same owners essentially .
it's going to require me starting a new thread so I hope you'll assist me and convert It Into a poll.
Cheers in advance .
Maybe we should accept we are where we deserve to be, no revenues from the stadium and league 1 attendances makes for a league 1 team.Godiva I don't see a problem with balancing the books. However I don't see how it will return us to the top flight.
How many clubs do you know who have got into the premiership by not spending more than you earn?
Whats been your most ridiculous SISU moment in recent years ?1.moving us to Sixfields2.selling everyone & buying No oneRT for 1Fav for 2
He/She has made 4000 'Go' cards printed off.
Fuck it, i'll hold one up. Why not?
You never want listen to anything other than your own assumed views on everything instead of figuring out the realities. Seems to me you just don't want to accept the reality because of morbid hate for sisu. I hate the buggers for much of what has happened too but I accept their position and see what they need to do in order to find the exit door.
If you hold one up then you really ought to know what you are truly trying to kick out and what is coming in to replace it? Without any inkling of that, how can you be so single minded?
Now if we had detail of a takeover that was both feesable and potentially sounded like an offer not to be refused, I'd hold one up straight away and call for SISU's head.
Unfortunately that is not what is happening in this suggestion, so why disrupt the team spirit? Why demonstrate to the manager and team (the very lads on the pitch) that you hate the owners and have no trust in them to deliver? How do you think that makes the players and staff feel? Not a good way forward is it?
Only ego's will be served by this action of a few who, to my mind do not represent the majority of our fan base.
We should be supporting the team to win. Success on the pitch can only deliver what you want eventually. We are a stricken club currently and any one thinking we can just get SISU out and find the holy grail to a better road immediately after, is deluded and fails to understand the clubs current plight.
Can't help feeling that rather than continually oppose SISU why don't we demonstrate the will to engage with SISU and force that issue?
They desperately need a successful club going forwards and once you get onside with your enemy you may find common ground to defeat them, or in this case harbour their exit.
The key word there gentlemen was the word assumed. You make many assumptions as do others and myself included but these assumptions are your own and not anyone else's. We do indeed agree on wanting SISU gone but I do not agree that is simply because we hate the bastards. Currently they and they alone are what keeps our club alive and with a future. If you can tell me there is a big investment on the horizon waiting to come in then great but we all know there is none so lets be more thoughtful of what can or can't be done is all I'm saying. The reality as I said before is very different from those wishful thinkers on here.
Maybe we should accept we are where we deserve to be, no revenues from the stadium and league 1 attendances makes for a league 1 team.
If we had 25k attendances and all stadium revenues we would be in a much better position to make an assault to the premier league whilst remaining financially sound.
If you hold one up then you really ought to know what you are truly trying to kick out and what is coming in to replace it? Without any inkling of that, how can you be so single minded?
Now if we had detail of a takeover that was both feesable and potentially sounded like an offer not to be refused, I'd hold one up straight away and call for SISU's head.
Unfortunately that is not what is happening in this suggestion, so why disrupt the team spirit? Why demonstrate to the manager and team (the very lads on the pitch) that you hate the owners and have no trust in them to deliver? How do you think that makes the players and staff feel? Not a good way forward is it?
Only ego's will be served by this action of a few who, to my mind do not represent the majority of our fan base.
We should be supporting the team to win. Success on the pitch can only deliver what you want eventually. We are a stricken club currently and any one thinking we can just get SISU out and find the holy grail to a better road immediately after, is deluded and fails to understand the clubs current plight.
Can't help feeling that rather than continually oppose SISU why don't we demonstrate the will to engage with SISU and force that issue?
They desperately need a successful club going forwards and once you get onside with your enemy you may find common ground to defeat them, or in this case harbour their exit.
Maybe we should accept we are where we deserve to be, no revenues from the stadium and league 1 attendances makes for a league 1 team.
If we had 25k attendances and all stadium revenues we would be in a much better position to make an assault to the premier league whilst remaining financially sound.
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?