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clint van damme

clint van damme

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  • Oct 2, 2024
  • #71
Offhegoes said:
Leeds away (last season) he was excellent as the lone man. He's just off form. He missed 2 good opportunities against Norwich first half which he would of buried last season. Played well at Watford and then lost his place (inexplibably) against Spurs & Swansea.
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That sort of hilights the point I made to Brighton that he has it in his locker, Leeds last season was a perfect example.
Unfortunately we're getting mainly performances like Leeds last week
 
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Terry_dactyl

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  • Oct 2, 2024
  • #72
Brighton Sky Blue said:
He has the physical attributes to be a dominating centre forward at this level, but not the drive or work rate.
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I’m sure when he first signed, MR was saying they’d train him in the work ethic they wanted?
Anyway, I think he’s good…with the potential to get better.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 2, 2024
  • #73
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Couldn't disagree more with that.

As much as I like him I don't think BTA is a particularly talented footballer. However his work rate is remarkable and very much makes up for the fact that he isn't great technically.
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You can coach better technical skills into a player (up to a point). It’s much harder to instil drive and motivation into a player who doesn’t already have them.
 
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Hobo

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  • Oct 2, 2024
  • #74
WBA fans didn't dislike too much. They only seemed to point out occasionally first touch could be better. Also he scored the amazing goals but missed the easier chances.

I always thought he looked WBA's biggest threat against us in recent seasons. I think we can improve him and was a great buy. I think he has been one of the few players so far this season to look more likely than the rest during our poor start.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Oct 2, 2024
  • #75
Hobo said:
WBA fans didn't dislike too much. They only seemed to point out occasionally first touch could be better. Also he scored the amazing goals but missed the easier chances.

I always thought he looked WBA's biggest threat against us in recent seasons. I think we can improve him and was a great buy. I think he has been one of the few players so far this season to look more likely than the rest during our poor start.
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Think he's first touch has looked far better than Simms and Wrights already.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Oct 2, 2024
  • #76
clint van damme said:
That sort of hilights the point I made to Brighton that he has it in his locker, Leeds last season was a perfect example.
Unfortunately we're getting mainly performances like Leeds last week
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QPR away was another good one. He went toe to toe with their defence and bullied them all match.

He's certainly capable.
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Oct 2, 2024
  • #77
Hobo said:
WBA fans didn't dislike too much. They only seemed to point out occasionally first touch could be better. Also he scored the amazing goals but missed the easier chances.

I always thought he looked WBA's biggest threat against us in recent seasons. I think we can improve him and was a great buy. I think he has been one of the few players so far this season to look more likely than the rest during our poor start.
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He scored 12 goals for them last year and even it they were spectacular they count. His goals for us so far have been decent goals, yet to see the spectacular, so maybe he hitting an age where it’s coming together for him. Excited to see more from .
 
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rexo87

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  • Oct 2, 2024
  • #78
I actually think he's fairly tidy on the ball in the main and nowhere near as bad technically as some are making out. His pressing last night though was absolutely crucial
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 2, 2024
  • #79
pusbccfc said:
QPR away was another good one. He went toe to toe with their defence and bullied them all match.

He's certainly capable.
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Bullied the Man Utd defenders too
 
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sotvtoday

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  • Oct 2, 2024
  • #80
alexccfc99 said:
I’d be intrigued to see how they got on up top together I actually think they’d supplement eachother pretty well but it’s a non starter as I don’t see us playing a two up top
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Modern day version of Ferguson and Wallace?
 

AOM

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  • Oct 2, 2024
  • #81
Offhegoes said:
Leeds away (last season) he was excellent as the lone man. He's just off form. He missed 2 good opportunities against Norwich first half which he would of buried last season. Played well at Watford and then lost his place (inexplibably) against Spurs & Swansea.
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Simms also ran both Wolves and Man Utd's central defenders ragged.
Hasn't been great so far this season but he'll get there. Completely different type of striker to BTA and Bassette so gives us different options and styles of play
 
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sotvtoday

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  • Oct 2, 2024
  • #82
shmmeee said:
He looked cream crackered from about 70 mins though. I’d have brought Bassette on to carry on the high energy press TBH.
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We said the same, but then he carried on and got his goal.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 2, 2024
  • #83
TomRad85 said:
Good player, can't believe people moaned about us signing him.
Problem is, if you can call it a problem, we have 3 players who cost good money, who are all best playing through the middle. Someone is going to end up not playing much.
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Bassette is too raw to start IMO. I’d have him for the last 20 mins or so and BTA or Simms to start based on form. You want three strikers really.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Oct 2, 2024
  • #84
Mark robins on asante

Asked what was behind his thinking in starting the Ghana international, Robins explained: “He’s different to what we have got, and what I am asking them to do is more aligned to his skill set. And I honestly think that centre-forward performance from him tonight has been one of the better ones in quite a while. He has set a standard, but we have some good strikers and they have got to keep upping their game.
 
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long way home

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  • Oct 2, 2024
  • #85
Asante and Simms could be a good pairing but i cant see Robins playing 2 up top anytime soon. Asante's work rate is going to give him the advantage against Simms with 1 up top. Robin's has to hope it creates a positive reaction from Simms and he starts to understand what the team needs from a player in this system. Simms is not a bad player but main asset is not running defenders into the ground and forcing mistakes. He will get his chance and will have to grab it with both hands, but if i was Robins id be keen to see both together at some point.
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 2, 2024
  • #86
clint van damme said:
Simms would stand there while he drove off with his parcels
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Or an interloper nicks in and steals them!
 
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Skyblue54

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  • Oct 2, 2024
  • #87
Couldn't we play asante in saka's position..and play simms up top??
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 2, 2024
  • #88
Could create friction and not the players but between Doug and MR,he likely needs to sell Simms this summer?
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Oct 2, 2024
  • #89
Skyblue54 said:
Couldn't we play asante in saka's position..and play simms up top??
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No
 
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skybluecam

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  • Oct 2, 2024
  • #90
Skyblue54 said:
Couldn't we play asante in saka's position..and play simms up top??
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No, he looked far better as a central striker than out wide.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Oct 2, 2024
  • #91
Wasabi said:
It isn’t his work rate that impressed me, it’s the intelligence of his press that sets him apart from Bassette in particular.
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How I have seen it is that mostly the striker has been pressing on his own, with little support from others making it a thankless task (and hence some of Bassettes complaining). Last night was pressing as a team and reaping the rewards
 

skybluecam

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  • Oct 2, 2024
  • #92
For me BTA had an excellent game last night.

I also suspect that we will get much more consistent performances out of him than Simms - BTA is always willing to do the running and gets himself involved, bringing others into play whereas Simms does struggle to impact games at all sometimes. BTA will probably consistently deliver 6-7/10 performances whereas with Simms it's more like a 5 or an 8, no in between.
 
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Deity

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  • Oct 2, 2024
  • #93
Clearly the best combination is talent and hard work but history shows that forwards that work hard but are short on talent don’t consistently score goals ….

I don’t buy at all tha hard work alone is the reason for our recent success. Vik and Hamer have an abundance of talent too. Simms and Wright scored nearly 40 goals between them …..

It’s the talent that’s the differentiator not the hard work.
 
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ccfc1234

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  • Oct 2, 2024
  • #94
Deity said:
Clearly the best combination is talent and hard work but history shows that forwards that work hard but are short on talent don’t consistently score goals ….

I don’t buy at all tha hard work alone is the reason for our recent success. Vik and Hamer have an abundance of talent too. Simms and Wright scored nearly 40 goals between them …..

It’s the talent that’s the differentiator not the hard work.
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I think it also depends on the position and the demands on the player within any particular system.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Oct 2, 2024
  • #95
Deity said:
Clearly the best combination is talent and hard work but history shows that forwards that work hard but are short on talent don’t consistently score goals ….

I don’t buy at all tha hard work alone is the reason for our recent success. Vik and Hamer have an abundance of talent too. Simms and Wright scored nearly 40 goals between them …..

It’s the talent that’s the differentiator not the hard work.
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Simms scored 13 league goals .. just 2 more than asante in a more attacking team
 

stay_up_skyblues

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  • Oct 2, 2024
  • #96
Evo1883 said:
Simms scored 13 league goals .. just 2 more than asante in a more attacking team
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In 7 more league appearances if Wiki is correct too. But I’m not writing Simms off and consigning him to the bench. BTA’s shirt to lose now but Ellis will get plenty of game time.
 
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lewys33

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  • Oct 2, 2024
  • #97
Jumping on the bandwagon for a better song (purely because it would be class to sing)

to the tune of “Bella ciao”

his names is Brandon
Thomas Asante
He came to score, came to score, came to score score score!
**Boateng said sign him
He’s fucking rapid**
So he plays for Coventry!

la la la la la …. Etc etc

** not my finest work, it fits, but someone may do better!
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Oct 2, 2024
  • #98
Brighton Sky Blue said:
You can coach better technical skills into a player (up to a point). It’s much harder to instil drive and motivation into a player who doesn’t already have them.
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Might be a bit Adi Viveash but if the softly approach of taking him to one side and telling him isn't doing it then maybe in training make not pressing more onerous to him than pressing. Everytime he fails to do it make him do a lap or 20 press ups or something. Make the press the easier option for him until it becomes second nature.
 
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Deity

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  • Oct 3, 2024
  • #99
I hope BTA scores 25 this season I really do my point is that I don’t think he’s a clinical finisher and he’s 26. I’m not sure how much more we can expect his technique and composure to increase from this age on.

he scored 7 league goals the season before last.

I’m still confident that if BTA, Simms, Wright and Bassante played the same number of matches this season that BTA would score the fewest goals.
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Oct 3, 2024
  • #100
Deity said:
I hope BTA scores 25 this season I really do my point is that I don’t think he’s a clinical finisher and he’s 26. I’m not sure how much more we can expect his technique and composure to increase from this age on.

he scored 7 league goals the season before last.

I’m still confident that if BTA, Simms, Wright and Bassante played the same number of matches this season that BTA would score the fewest goals.
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I think he would outscore Bassette personally.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 3, 2024
  • #101
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Might be a bit Adi Viveash but if the softly approach of taking him to one side and telling him isn't doing it then maybe in training make not pressing more onerous to him than pressing. Everytime he fails to do it make him do a lap or 20 press ups or something. Make the press the easier option for him until it becomes second nature.
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Worth trying maybe
 

clint van damme

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  • Oct 3, 2024
  • #102
lewys33 said:
Jumping on the bandwagon for a better song (purely because it would be class to sing)

to the tune of “Bella ciao”

his names is Brandon
Thomas Asante
He came to score, came to score, came to score score score!
**Boateng said sign him
He’s fucking rapid**
So he plays for Coventry!

la la la la la …. Etc etc

** not my finest work, it fits, but someone may do better!
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I'm all for adopting a socialist anthem!
Maybe sing in Italian for a bit of authenticity.
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 3, 2024
  • #103
clint van damme said:
I'm all for adopting a socialist anthem!
Maybe sing in Italian for a bit of authenticity.
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We've adopted the socialist approach to everything else, following Peps model and all the other follower's, it's time to get get back to indivi!
 

We'll_live_and_die

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  • Oct 3, 2024
  • #104
Deity said:
I’m still confident that if BTA, Simms, Wright and Bassante played the same number of matches this season that BTA would score the fewest goals.
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I just don't see how BTA could score less than Simms if they were both given the same opportunities. Bassette looks a menace and still has room for Growth. Wright looks silky and knows how to take a chance, BTA is strong and has an engine, Simms erm pokes some in occasionally.
 
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skybluecam

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  • Oct 3, 2024
  • #105
Deity said:
I hope BTA scores 25 this season I really do my point is that I don’t think he’s a clinical finisher and he’s 26. I’m not sure how much more we can expect his technique and composure to increase from this age on.

he scored 7 league goals the season before last.

I’m still confident that if BTA, Simms, Wright and Bassante played the same number of matches this season that BTA would score the fewest goals.
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It’s not all about goals. His all round game on Tuesday was very good. Wright doesn’t score the second without him pressuring the defender.

Long term I think Simms and Bassette have more potential, but I’d stick with BTA for now.
 
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