Thorn v Shaw - A comparison (2 Viewers)

[lordsummerisle]

Honestly and tangibly - not particularly so. More movement in midfield presented more short out-balls, which meant the game could be mixed up more I guess. I thought Hussey was still profligate with the long ball forward. Given the number of empty seats, I moved three times to get different views of things. Sat in the corner by the JSB element, it gave quite a perspective on his misguided forward ball. That needs to change.

I'm not being jaundiced in my view here - honestly so. I thought many traits that were previously considered deeply flawed still remained. Looking at shots on and off target, we were at 14 and 5 whereas Brum managed 16 and 10. They hit the bar, had a late penalty shout. It could have been very different.

The profile of the diamond did look different, I can see that. The passing mix - as above, looked different. But the main thing - above all? The work-rate and aptitude of the players

Agree on Hussey's long balls, still not convinced by him, i know a lot really like him, but don't think he's that good really.

The work-rate and aptitude of the players may have contributed to the more purposeful look to the team admittedly, may not be a change of tactics from Shaw, but would hope a mixture of both and can be carried on.

 

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[We'll_live_and_die]

Really? Was it 1-1 against Bury then?

No it was 2-2 which would make 2 the most amount of goals conceded this season (I think :thinking about.

 

[Ashdown]

The biggest change I could see was motivation of the players. Either for the new manager, or as a mark of respect for the outgoing manager, or as it was a local derby - with highlights shown on the TV

Quite....... as enthused as I am by last nights performance, I'll be more inclined to judge the merits of a new manager when he has to motivate them to the same levels for Stevenage at home at 1.15 on a Sunday !!

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

First of all, let me just say this is neither a Pro-Thorn or Anti-Shaw thread, it is neither. I just think people need to calm down a little on Shaw. He hasn't pulled up any trees, or completely changed the way we play (you wouldn't expect him to in such a short space of time) but I have seen Shaw getting praise for doing some of the same things that Thorn did.

Same formation - the diamond has attracted a hell of a lot of criticism over recent weeks. Didn't see any mention of it last night.

Same lineup - pretty much the same lineup as Thorns previous game, apart from a reshuffle in defence.

Similar tactics - didn't see much different in our approach play really, still looked a little suspect at the back.


Now, I'm not saying that we would have won that game anyway with Thorn in charge. And I'm not saying that Shaw changed absolutely nothing.

All I'm saying is, lets just keep our feet on the ground here. Remember Thorn's games as caretaker manager at the backend of the season a couple of years ago. People were labelling him the messiah and everyone was saying his football was the best they have seen in years.

PUSB.

The formation didn't change, people who think it did are just looking for reasons to praise Shaw and criticise Thorn imo

The biggest change for me was in the players, the work ethic and commitment last night was better than anything I had ever seen from a Thorn side

 

[skyblueman]

Er hang on a minute...

Wasn't Shaw working with Thorn these past weeks or did I imagine that?

So did Shaw just hold off helping Thorn with the team or something for all those games?

Is Shaw the magical missing ingredient?

Would Thorn have won this game?

ONE game and some of you want to give Shaw a go?

Would Thorn have had a decent run after 12 games or so?

SISU didn't want to take the chance on Thorn

SISU won't want to take the chance on Shaw

We need another manager in with some experience it is obvious - that's the safest option