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ccfc92 · Jul 28, 2012

Not looking good

hamil99 · Jul 28, 2012

Don't mind conceding in pre-season and losing, but not scoring any goals is a bit worrying...

ccfc92 · Jul 28, 2012

hamil99 said:
Don't mind conceding in pre-season and losing, but not scoring any goals is a bit worrying...

Especially after scoring 13 in 2 games :thinking about:

Lord_Nampil · Jul 28, 2012

Can't read anything into that game at all!!! Midfield deegan was the only recognised player and that was his first game this pre season!!!!

ccfc92 · Jul 28, 2012

Lord_Nampil said:
Can't read anything into that game at all!!! Midfield deegan was the only recognised player and that was his first game this pre season!!!!

Agreed, but if we cant score against Nuneaton, how will we score against the mighty Yeovil :thinking about:

Ryan Parfrey · Jul 28, 2012

Its just a friendly. Yes its worrying that we didnt score but we played a team full of youngsters and trialists who are trying to jel together. Thats nowhere near our first team! we was without Murphy, Clarke, Malaga, Wood, Bell, Baker, Elliot, Kilbane, Macca, Fleck, O'donovan, Cameron and Christie? and this was also Deegans first game back in how long and also for McDonald! and for anyone who starts to get on Thorns back then its stupid, there's too much negativity and we need to get behind the team alot more this year if we want promotion! Judge Thorn around November time!

stupot07 · Jul 28, 2012

ccfc92 said:
Agreed, but if we cant score against Nuneaton, how will we score against the mighty Yeovil :thinking about:

But how many of the first 11 attacking players actually played, apart from Cody which was his first run out of the the season.

Reynolds_121 · Jul 28, 2012

The Brazilian and Deegan were embarrassingly bad.

stupot07 · Jul 28, 2012

Reynolds_121 said:
The Brazilian and Deegan were embarrassingly bad.

Well hopefully AT will sack the brazilian off, but Deegan is consistently inconsistent.

Lord_Nampil · Jul 28, 2012

stupot07 said:
Well hopefully AT will sack the brazilian off, but Deegan is consistently inconsistent.

Can't judge him on that game if he does then he obvs didn't want him in the first place!!!

oldskyblue58 · Jul 28, 2012

no thoughts because i havent seen any of the friendlies but some questions

is there any discernible pattern in our play?
do we look compact and well organised?
what formations are we playing?
are we moving the ball forward with any pace?
are we creating chances?
have we found a leader on the pitch yet?
do the players look sharp and fit ?

friendlies are not massively important in terms of results but by now we should have an idea on some of the above (even if it isnt the finished article or if we are playing the second string)

bulkingtonskyblues · Jul 28, 2012

3 meaningful pre season games and 3 defeats. friendlies or not that stat is certainly a worry

ccfc92 · Jul 28, 2012

bulkingtonskyblues said:
3 meaningful pre season games and 3 defeats. friendlies or not that stat is certainly a worry

And 1 goal in 3:thinking about:

torchomatic · Jul 28, 2012

Just got back. Not too brilliant it has to be said, but I guess it wasn't the first 11 so not two concerned. We didn't really see a lot of the two traillists so I wouldn't judge them just on one game; bit harsh to do so. The Edge looks useful as does Brown. Disappointing, but it's what happens in two weeks that really matters.

torchomatic · Jul 28, 2012

Some more pics:

wingy · Jul 28, 2012

oldskyblue58 said:
no thoughts because i havent seen any of the friendlies but some questions

is there any discernible pattern in our play?
do we look compact and well organised?
what formations are we playing?
are we moving the ball forward with any pace?
are we creating chances?
have we found a leader on the pitch yet?
do the players look sharp and fit ?

friendlies are not massively important in terms of results but by now we should have an idea on some of the above (even if it isnt the finished article or if we are playing the second string)

Can't really comment on the pattern OSB as we did'nt really seem to have any longterm possession ,no real tempo to our play ,quite pedestrian really.I could'nt take much from the game ,Reece brown seemed OK and regards Bruno i think he could be useful ,did'nt get much service ,got through twice and has quick feet which enabled him to get a couple of shots in one which shaved the angle.Definately not as at it as they sounded at Hinkley and Borough were very comfortable and far more effective.

oldskyblue58 · Jul 28, 2012

cheers wingy

lordsummerisle · Jul 28, 2012

wingy said:
Can't really comment on the pattern OSB as we did'nt really seem to have any longterm possession ,no real tempo to our play ,quite pedestrian really.

I think that that is the pattern.

BigCsCheesyGrin · Jul 28, 2012

To be honest i came away wishing i had been one of the latecomers who missed the first 20 mins due to queues but as has been mentioned it wasnt our first team. However a little fight and class would have been nice to see. No real style of football shown unless you bracket a style as 'clueless'. Hoofing up to the massive macdonald...not good. The brazilian in the Rosario role, without a mighty quinn to latch onto any headers.,not good. Highlight...Brown okay and and enjoyed chant at nuneaton goalie dressed in orange 'your just a fat fookin wotsit'.....yep it was a desperate afternoon. I just worry that the reason these free agents are free is because they are s**t. And as a club in desperate circumstances we could be signing some real crap

ClarrieB · Jul 28, 2012

bulkingtonskyblues said:
3 meaningful pre season games and 3 defeats. friendlies or not that stat is certainly a worry

worrying - maybe, expected - by a small 'minority' of us who know things are unlikely to improve without leaders on the pitch and off - the biggest failure's are however - off the pitch with little chance of an imminent change

ClarrieB · Jul 28, 2012

torchomatic said:
Just got back. Not too brilliant it has to be said, but I guess it wasn't the first 11 so not two concerned. We didn't really see a lot of the two traillists so I wouldn't judge them just on one game; bit harsh to do so. The Edge looks useful as does Brown. Disappointing, but it's what happens in two weeks that really matters.

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What inspires you to such faith Torchy? What is it about Thorn specifically that gives you such unwavering optimism?

Seriously, I'm interested...

WestEndAgro · Jul 28, 2012

A truly awful performance, couldn't string two passes together or keep the ball for more than three seconds, no player was any better than a generous 5 out of 10.
As for a obvious style of play there wasn't one and certainly no plan B.

craigSKYBLUE · Jul 28, 2012

I gotta say my only concern this season is andy thorn...i just think he will fail...hope im wrong but hes not a manager is he

hill83 · Jul 28, 2012

Very poor display to be fair

OBLONG · Jul 28, 2012

Thought Hussey,Brown and Edjenguele were ok.

torchomatic · Jul 28, 2012

I don't have unwavering optimism. As I said it's what matters in two weeks with his chosen first eleven that matters. Pre-season results are always topsy-turvey. We're not going to win 8-0 or lose 1-0 every week.

ClarrieB said:
What inspires you to such faith Torchy? What is it about Thorn specifically that gives you such unwavering optimism?

Seriously, I'm interested...

ClarrieB · Jul 28, 2012

ClarrieB said:
What inspires you to such faith Torchy? What is it about Thorn specifically that gives you such unwavering optimism?

Seriously, I'm interested...

Why is it that whenever someone mentions things Thorn is doing poorly they face an onslaught from various usual suspects yet whenever challenged to identify things Thorn has done well their is never any valid measuring stick to be found and these same usual suspects go all quiet - Just sayin

ClarrieB · Jul 28, 2012

torchomatic said:
I don't have unwavering optimism. As I said it's what matters in two weeks with his chosen first eleven that matters. Pre-season results are always topsy-turvey. We're not going to win 8-0 or lose 1-0 every week.

Fair enough - I guess this comes from you giving Thorn a clean slate then whereas I am factoring in my own assessment of his poorformance last season

shmmeee · Jul 28, 2012

ClarrieB said:
Why is it that whenever someone mentions things Thorn is doing poorly they face an onslaught from various usual suspects yet whenever challenged to identify things Thorn has done well their is never any valid measuring stick to be found and these same usual suspects go all quiet - Just sayin

It's the same both ways. You only notice it when it runs against your opinion.

Grendel · Jul 28, 2012

The truth is that friendly results are no big deal. The main purpose that they serve is to asses the squad and look at formations. That I hope is what is happening.

For certain if we persist in the nonsense style of play we deployed for the first half of last season it's not going to be much fun.

ClarrieB · Jul 28, 2012

shmmeee said:
It's the same both ways. You only notice it when it runs against your opinion.

No Shmeee my friend, your speculating I'm afraid.

skybluegod · Jul 28, 2012

ccfc92 said:
Agreed, but if we cant score against Nuneaton, how will we score against the mighty Yeovil :thinking about:

unfair to judge as strikers had no service as midfield was s***

Grendel · Jul 28, 2012

ClarrieB said:
Fair enough - I guess this comes from you giving Thorn a clean slate then whereas I am factoring in my own assessment of his poorformance last season

Careful you'll be told to go and watch another team down the M69 with that sort of negative talk.

ClarrieB · Jul 28, 2012

Grendel said:
The truth is that friendly results are no big deal. The main purpose that they serve is to asses the squad and look at formations. That I hope is what is happening.

For certain if we persist in the nonsense style of play we deployed for the first half of last season it's not going to be much fun.

The results are not important no - but the questions as outlined by OldSkyBlue are fair questions to ask, I'll quote them here again for reference...with the answers I fear will be accurate

is there any discernible pattern in our play? No, none.
do we look compact and well organised? No.
what formations are we playing? Vague
are we moving the ball forward with any pace? Rarely
are we creating chances? Few
have we found a leader on the pitch yet? No
do the players look sharp and fit ? Not obvious, no real tempo

Someone who went to the game will hopefully give a more accurate reflection with there answers because these are good questions to ask.

ClarrieB · Jul 28, 2012

skybluegod said:
unfair to judge as strikers had no service as midfield was s***

Probably the way they were setup

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