Time for us fans to stick together (1 Viewer)

rupert_bear · Apr 19, 2015

Although not mathematically safe I do believe that barring some sort unbelievable set of circumstances and results we are. So what next ? Well I believe this is a classic opportunity for our supporters to unite and stick together, I am talking about committing to season tickets too early. Our owners will be desperate to get us to put our hands in our pockets early, we need to stand firm and resist that, one until the ink is dry on an extended contract for Tony Mowbray and two until proof of some sort of commitment to show meaningful investment in our team, the first proof will be to allow TM to bring in his own backroom staff as he pleases, that should happen immediately Mowbray becomes our long term manager.

To give these owners with their past record your hard earned in advance of atl east any of the above happening would be complete folly, not saying don't go to games in fact do go to games, but just go on a match by match basis, put the £250/£300 season ticket money in a biscuit tin and pay game by game. I know lots of lapsed fans who won't go to games as they used to for many reasons mostly owner based but there's a lot of difference between fans who won't go to those who don't go, the won'ts will come back but it is a struggle to get the don'ts back.

I think there's about 5000 season ticket holders presently which is a about one and a half million quid in advance of any fulfilled promise, crazy to give it them too soon.

torchomatic · Apr 19, 2015

Are you a season ticket holder?

Steve.B50 · Apr 19, 2015

I can agree with this statement, makes no difference if you bought a ST or not this year but we should all stick together until true commitment from our owners is shown. At present although we still intend to go to games we will not renew ours for next season.

rupert_bear · Apr 19, 2015

No, but have been to I would guess about 70% of home games in over the years, none last season though.

Steve.B50 · Apr 19, 2015

rupert_bear said:
No, but have been to I would guess about 70% of home games in over the years, none last season though.

No need to defend yourself Rupert, it's what we all do in the future that matters now.

RFC · Apr 19, 2015

rupert_bear said:
Although not mathematically safe I do believe that barring some sort unbelievable set of circumstances and results we are. So what next ? Well I believe this is a classic opportunity for our supporters to unite and stick together, I am talking about committing to season tickets too early. Our owners will be desperate to get us to put our hands in our pockets early, we need to stand firm and resist that, one until the ink is dry on an extended contract for Tony Mowbray and two until proof of some sort of commitment to show meaningful investment in our team, the first proof will be to allow TM to bring in his own backroom staff as he pleases, that should happen immediately Mowbray becomes our long term manager.

To give these owners with their past record your hard earned in advance of atl east any of the above happening would be complete folly, not saying don't go to games in fact do go to games, but just go on a match by match basis, put the £250/£300 season ticket money in a biscuit tin and pay game by game. I know lots of lapsed fans who won't go to games as they used to for many reasons mostly owner based but there's a lot of difference between fans who won't go to those who don't go, the won'ts will come back but it is a struggle to get the don'ts back.

I think there's about 5000 season ticket holders presently which is a about one and a half million quid in advance of any fulfilled promise, crazy to give it them too soon.

Sorry that strategy will kill our club.

Not obsessed about the ownership, just support the manager & the players, that's the way it's always been and always will be for me.

Thought you'd stated on another thread 'time to stick together', some hope!

rupert_bear · Apr 19, 2015

Knew this would wake you from your recent slumber did you read it or were you prompted to put in a reply, I wonder ? Our owners or those working on their behalf have sort of eluded to providing some sort of backing to the guy we all want as manager soon to be decision time regards that could be interesting.

The strategy killing our club is gathering money in ticket sales pre-season and seeing most of that money disappearing to the Cayman Islands.

skybluetony176 · Apr 19, 2015

RFC said:
Sorry that strategy will kill our club.

Not obsessed about the ownership, just support the manager & the players, that's the way it's always been and always will be for me.

Thought you'd stated on another thread 'time to stick together', some hope!

The only strategy that has been killing our club is SISU's.

Cause and effect.

Terry Gibson's perm · Apr 19, 2015

I will be waiting to see what happens, this is an improvement from when we still had SP in charge as there was no way I would have renewed.

I would like to see TM given a decent contract something like two years and be allowed to bring his own men in and remove Oggy if he feels he needs to and some decent signings made on contracts or long term loans.

It would be good to see some imagination from the club on season ticket sales as we need many more younger fans in the ground as when I look around block 20 I see a lot of older people, they could do a season ticket at a price and then a shirt for half price with it.

I would still like to see Waggott go as he said he would when he was no longer wanted and I think he has well over stayed his welcome, for me it's him or Fisher we can't carry the two of them ideally both would go but that may be too much to ask.

oscillatewildly · Apr 19, 2015

Terry Gibson's perm said:
I will be waiting to see what happens, this is an improvement from when we still had SP in charge as there was no way I would have renewed.

I would like to see TM given a decent contract something like two years and be allowed to bring his own men in and remove Oggy if he feels he needs to and some decent signings made on contracts or long term loans.

It would be good to see some imagination from the club on season ticket sales as we need many more younger fans in the ground as when I look around block 20 I see a lot of older people, they could do a season ticket at a price and then a shirt for half price with it.

I would still like to see Waggott go as he said he would when he was no longer wanted and I think he has well over stayed his welcome, for me it's him or Fisher we can't carry the two of them ideally both would go but that may be too much to ask.

I think the 'half priced shirt' lure may be a little tricky given that they can't get the damn things in the shop in the first place!
However, temptation to commit to a season tkt may come in the form of an offer on a job lot of screen wash and a used pasting table?

James Smith · Apr 19, 2015

RFC said:
Sorry that strategy will kill our club.

And:
Moving us to Northampton, away from the majority of our fans giving us our lowest attendances in history,
Annoying the Higgs and not buying a stake in our home the Ricoh.
Saying that we didn't want the Ricoh whilst claiming that we'd be building our own stadium despite no plans visible and seemingly the only contact with another council seemingly taking place this month.

You're saying that strategy was designed to help us, financially or otherwise? Are you seriously suggesting that?

RFC said:
Not obsessed about the ownership, just support the manager & the players, that's the way it's always been and always will be for me.

So you would have been happy to have kept Elvis until the end of his contract?

Big_Ben · Apr 19, 2015

rupert_bear said:
No, but have been to I would guess about 70% of home games in over the years, none last season though.

So that's a 'no' then.

torchomatic · Apr 19, 2015

It's a bit like David Cameron sitting in his big house in Oxfordshire with a Trust Fund for company telling us we have to tighten our belts and do our bit for the country's finances.

RP is telling people to stop doing something he doesn't do himself anyway. Then again, he does have a dim view of STHs.

Samo · Apr 19, 2015

rupert_bear said:
Knew this would wake you from your recent slumber did you read it or were you prompted to put in a reply, I wonder ? Our owners or those working on their behalf have sort of eluded to providing some sort of backing to the guy we all want as manager soon to be decision time regards that could be interesting.

The strategy killing our club is gathering money in ticket sales pre-season and seeing most of that money disappearing to the Cayman Islands.

Would this be all the vast profits the club is making?

Deleted member 5849 · Apr 19, 2015

Rupert Rupert Rupert,

I won;t be getting a season ticket either, for many reasons (excuses )but hey...

Theproblem is as soon as you push for a collective effort, we start having tedious claims about scabbing, morals (and there's always someone with better morals round the corner, those who don't think split-arses asked for it, for example).

And like it or not, don't buy a season ticket, like me... and I can't really be surprised when a Callum Wilson is sold to make up for it.

Ditto, why believe 'investment' before? The old Robinson trick of buy a player or two to get fans excited just before the early bird offer finished... only for the likes of Davenport, McSheffrey etc. to then be sold once everyone had signed up for season tickets. Remember that? 'Investment' can't be easily told.

It'll happen anyway. Let's face it it's all so depressing it won't need a co-ordinated campaign to get people not to sign up for a ticket, and likewise if they do do a bit of financial conjury, more will put their hands in their pockets - it's the way of the world.

But let's not start off on who's the best fan and all that jizz, for that's where something like your OP will take us; dividing us yet again.

Samo · Apr 19, 2015

Deleted member 5849 said:
Rupert Rupert Rupert,

I won;t be getting a season ticket either, for many reasons (excuses )but hey...

Theproblem is as soon as you push for a collective effort, we start having tedious claims about scabbing, morals (and there's always someone with better morals round the corner, those who don't think split-arses asked for it, for example).

And like it or not, don't buy a season ticket, like me... and I can't really be surprised when a Callum Wilson is sold to make up for it.

Ditto, why believe 'investment' before? The old Robinson trick of buy a player or two to get fans excited just before the early bird offer finished... only for the likes of Davenport, McSheffrey etc. to then be sold once everyone had signed up for season tickets. Remember that? 'Investment' can't be easily told.

It'll happen anyway. Let's face it it's all so depressing it won't need a co-ordinated campaign to get people not to sign up for a ticket, and likewise if they do do a bit of financial conjury, more will put their hands in their pockets - it's the way of the world.

But let's not start off on who's the best fan and all that jizz, for that's where something like your OP will take us; dividing us yet again.

I do hope Rupert doesn't feel in any way patronised by this post?

Deleted member 5849 · Apr 19, 2015

Samo said:
I do hope Rupert doesn't feel in any way patronised by this post?

So do I. That'd be terrible.

Otis · Apr 19, 2015

I would go the opposite way and urge as many fans as possible to buy season tickets.

Let's get healthy crowds back up the Ricoh, back the manager and the team.

If the club then don't support the manager, then I would say the next season would be the one for us to say no to ST's. Give the owners a good reason to support and back the club and the manager.

If they don't do that, after we have done our bit, then that would be the time to be thinking about hurting the owners, not that I would think that would work anyway, but we need success on the pitch. Let's do our bit to help try and make that happen.

torchomatic · Apr 19, 2015

Me too Otis, me too. However, I would never urge people NOT to buy season tickets.

If people like RP feel that strongly then do as NW says, don't go.

Otis said:
I would go the opposite way and urge as many fans as possible to buy season tickets.

Let's get healthy crowds back up the Ricoh, back the manager and the team.

If the club then don't support the manager, then I would say the next season would be the one for us to say no to ST's. Give the owners a good reason to support and back the club and the manager.

If they don't do that, after we have done our bit, then that would be the time to be thinking about hurting the owners, not that I would think that would work anyway, but we need success on the pitch. Let's do our bit to help try and make that happen.

Otis · Apr 19, 2015

torchomatic said:
Me too Otis, me too. However, I would never urge people NOT to buy season tickets.

If people like RP feel that strongly then do as NW says, don't go.

No, well that's me too.

I never want to hurt the club and usually hurting the owners hurts the club too.

I would maybe consider not buying a season ticket, but I wouldn't urge people not to.

Deleted member 5849 · Apr 19, 2015

Otis said:
I would maybe consider not buying a season ticket, but I wouldn't urge people not to.

tbh, 'random bloke on message board told me not to' is pretty low down on my list of reasons not to get one anyway!

Hobo · Apr 19, 2015

RFC said:
Sorry that strategy will kill our club.

Not obsessed about the ownership, just support the manager & the players, that's the way it's always been and always will be for me.

Thought you'd stated on another thread 'time to stick together', some hope!

I think the point he is making is we haven't actually got a manager in place to support for next season. Whether his method is right or wrong, his motive is to put pressure on our owners to commit to TM, because he like many of our fans see the acquisition of TM as vital towards moving the club forward.

Many fans also want to see this sort of commitment before they commit to a season ticket. They don't want to see another season of dross due to a lack of organisation and structure within the club.

Otis · Apr 19, 2015

Deleted member 5849 said:
tbh, 'random bloke on message board told me not to' is pretty low down on my list of reasons not to get one anyway!

Yeah, but it wouldn't just random bloke would it.

I think if we backed the team in force this next season and the manager came out and said he had not been supported by the owners, the following season there would be a concerted campaign and call to arms and it most certainly wouldn't just be some random bloke.

It would be a groundswell of opinion. Much more likely to sway someone I would have thought.

Samo · Apr 19, 2015

Otis said:
Yeah, but it wouldn't just random bloke would it.

I think if we backed the team in force this next season and the manager came out and said he had not been supported by the owners, the following season there would be a concerted campaign and call to arms and it most certainly wouldn't just be some random bloke.

It would be a groundswell of opinion. Much more likely to sway someone I would have thought.

And who would coordinate such a campaign Otis?

Otis · Apr 19, 2015

Samo said:
And who would coordinate such a campaign Otis?

Is that a hint?

I just think if we supported the team in numbers and the manager wasn't back by the board, there would be a large number of very disgruntled fans indeed and I'm sure a campaign would just start to grow anyway, without anyone having to issue a call to arms.

Samo · Apr 19, 2015

Otis said:
Is that a hint?

I just think if we supported the team in numbers and the manager wasn't back by the board, there would be a large number of very disgruntled fans indeed and I'm sure a campaign would just start to grow anyway, without anyone having to issue a call to arms.

Like the last 10 years you mean?

Sky Blue Kid · Apr 19, 2015

Otis said:
I would go the opposite way and urge as many fans as possible to buy season tickets. Let's get healthy crowds back up the Ricoh, back the manager and the team. If the club then don't support the manager, then I would say the next season would be the one for us to say no to ST's. Give the owners a good reason to support and back the club and the manager. If they don't do that, after we have done our bit, then that would be the time to be thinking about hurting the owners, not that I would think that would work anyway, but we need success on the pitch. Let's do our bit to help try and make that happen.

Your posts are usually spot on Otis, but this one is so deluded, I think you've lost the plot!.....You're saying SISU have given me a right beating for the last 7 years but I'll take the chance they're not going to kick me in the face and kill me this time. It should be they that invests in the manager and team to prove to us they are really going to try this time. You sound like the abused wife on Jeremy Kyle..."I'll wait and seeif he kills me the next time before leaving him.....You're wrong in so many ways mate (((

Deleted member 5849 · Apr 19, 2015

Samo said:
Like the last 10 years you mean?

Indeed.

A very last chance after the last very last chance, and maybe get another final, final chance next season after all.

covmark · Apr 19, 2015

Sky Blue Kid said:
Your posts are usually spot on Otis, but this one is so deluded, I think you've lost the plot!.....You're saying SISU have given me a right beating for the last 7 years but I'll take the chance they're not going to kick me in the face and kill me this time. It should be they that invests in the manager and team to prove to us they are really going to try this time. You sound like the abused wife on Jeremy Kyle..."I'll wait and seeif he kills me the next time before leaving him.....You're wrong in so many ways mate (((

How you can call someone deluded is beyond me. As for your abused wife analogy.... Words fail me at how thick you are.

chiefdave · Apr 19, 2015

There's a slight chance I might be moving back to Cov, if that happens pretty much the first thing on my to do list will be getting a season ticket. I'm all for protests against the owners or whatever people want to do but when there's 11 players on the pitch it's Coventry City not SISU. If you don't like the owners you shouldn't stop supporting the team.

torchomatic · Apr 19, 2015

He's pinched that from Shmmeee.

covmark said:
How you can call someone deluded is beyond me. As for your abused wife analogy.... Words fail me at how thick you are.

Sky Blue Kid · Apr 19, 2015

covmark said:
How you can call someone deluded is beyond me. As for your abused wife analogy.... Words fail me at how thick you are.

Once again Nomark never makes posts of any worth, only looking for the chance to attack my posts. Fuck all wrong with my analogy. would you rather me say "Carry on butt fucking all CCFC fans, we're all gullible enough a la Nomark to let you do it" Ya thick c**t.

Samo · Apr 19, 2015

Sky Blue Kid said:
Once again Nomark never makes posts of any worth, only looking for the chance to attack my posts. Fuck all wrong with my analogy. would you rather me say "Carry on butt fucking all CCFC fans, we're all gullible enough a la Nomark to let you do it" Ya thick c**t.

Run for shelter, the C bomb has dropped!

covmark · Apr 19, 2015

Sky Blue Kid said:
Once again Nomark never makes posts of any worth, only looking for the chance to attack my posts. Fuck all wrong with my analogy. would you rather me say "Carry on butt fucking all CCFC fans, we're all gullible enough a la Nomark to let you do it" Ya thick c**t.

You compare supporting a football club to someone suffering domestic abuse. I'd say you were the thick c**t.

Sky Blue Kid · Apr 19, 2015

Hey Nomark..... I've never once compared supporting our football club to someone suffering domestic abuse.....I HAVE compared paying good money to SISU for fuck all in return to domestic abuse however. Show me where CCFC(The Football Club) benefits from you paying money to SISU? Every step they've taken has slowly strangled the life out of CCFC. Sell Wilson, Clarke, for nearly £3.5m and allow Waggot(Not SP as has been proven with the Proschwitz signing) to bring in shit players on a fraction of wages, whilst feeding the Cayman Is bank.....and thick fucks like you can't see it? As for Otis...He knows exactly what I'm saying and there was no animosity in my post towards him, it was the idea behind what he said that I called deluded.

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