Time to Unmask Himself (20 Viewers)

Grendel · Jun 26, 2014

Kcic may have been well intentioned but their attempt to handle the situation resembles the keystone cops on a good day.

There seems to be £1 milion raised if we take the original offer at face value. This would allow rent free football for 3 years surely.

The mystery businessman should unveil himself and take ownership of this. If sisu have an interest all past misgivings should be abondoned and the initiative seized.

If it is not and the mystery man lurks in shadows we are entitled to ask why and is this in fact just a stunt to cause mischief and mayhem - which other not so mystery men appear to have indulged themselves in the past.

It remains a mystery.

jimmyhillsfanclub · Jun 26, 2014

It was me...

...but I've spent several days waiting on phone calls.....passing the time on betfair....unfortunately, that £1m now stands at £67.14.

I figured we didn't need it anyhow as more than 5000 will turn up.

Sorry folks.

Back to the drawing board.

lewys33 · Jun 26, 2014

I'm Spartacus ......... No I'm Spartacus!

Not everything needs to be spoken about on a public forum does it?

cmoncity · Jun 26, 2014

mystery backer

For me its either hoffman, elliott or bing

Grendel · Jun 26, 2014

lewys33 said:
I'm Spartacus ......... No I'm Spartacus!

Not everything needs to be spoken about on a public forum does it?

Why would someone remain secret? For what aim?

Jim · Jun 26, 2014

Grendel said:
Why would someone remain secret? For what aim?

All this person is doing is providing funding to facilitate a return to the Ricoh. He is not making any business decision on behalf of the club and therefore there is no real need to know who it is. The aim of remaining anonymous is probably because the focus should be on the club not on who a benefactor is.

lewys33 · Jun 26, 2014

Grendel said:
Why would someone remain secret? For what aim?

Care to share your measurements then? I would suggest they wouldn't remain secret if this goes further. We shall see.

Monners · Jun 26, 2014

Grendel said:
Why would someone remain secret? For what aim?

In that case - What is your real name?

lewys33 · Jun 26, 2014

cmoncity said:
For me its either hoffman, elliott or bing

It won't be Byng. He is in constant talks with ML himself.

Monners · Jun 26, 2014

I know where the Hoff lives. Shall I pop round and ask? Or - could always give him a ring I suppose

wes_cov · Jun 26, 2014

My understanding from the original information was that it was a consortium of local business men one of whom was well known to the fans.... does it matter who the one is if it's backed by a number of "local business men"?

will am i · Jun 26, 2014

Grendel said:
Why would someone remain secret? For what aim?

I agree with you, but do you think the individual investors in our club should be named too?

Grendel · Jun 26, 2014

I think you are missing the point.

This scenario is possible;

Someone wants to create some more negative headlines.
They conclude a good headline for kcic is "sisu do not want to double attendances in Coventry for free"
They use Michael Orton to front this.
Sisu call the bluff and accept talks.
They want to discuss some of this over the phone. Its decided this can be used as a get out of jail card - sisu will not talk.

There is no deal. There was no deal. A plan aimed at mischief went wrong and one person now carries the can while others stay away waiting for another escapade.

Now this could be wrong and is pure conjecture. The only way to prove this is show the deal and the investors.

Nick · Jun 26, 2014

Grendel said:
I think you are missing the point.

This scenario is possible;

Someone wants to create some more negative headlines.
They conclude a good headline for kcic is "sisu do not want to double attendances in Coventry for free"
They use Michael Orton to front this.
Sisu call the bluff and accept talks.
They want to discuss some of this over the phone. Its decided this can be used as a get out of jail card - sisu will not talk.

There is no deal. There was no deal. A plan aimed at mischief went wrong and one person now carries the can while others stay away waiting for another escapade.

Now this could be wrong and is pure conjecture. The only way to prove this is show the deal and the investors.

If that is the case it is massively unfair on Michael.

wes_cov · Jun 26, 2014

as you say it's pure conjecture but if Elliot came out and said "ohhh it's me" would that give the offer any more or less credibility?

lewys33 · Jun 26, 2014

Grendel said:
I think you are missing the point.

This scenario is possible;

Someone wants to create some more negative headlines.
They conclude a good headline for kcic is "sisu do not want to double attendances in Coventry for free"
They use Michael Orton to front this.
Sisu call the bluff and accept talks.
They want to discuss some of this over the phone. Its decided this can be used as a get out of jail card - sisu will not talk.

There is no deal. There was no deal. A plan aimed at mischief went wrong and one person now carries the can while others stay away waiting for another escapade.

Now this could be wrong and is pure conjecture. The only way to prove this is show the deal and the investors.

OK I see what you are getting at now, but I guess if that WERE to be the case would we ever find out? It would just be something else to throw in to the fire and poke with a large stick.

Grendel · Jun 26, 2014

Nick said:
If that is the case it is massively unfair on Michael.

The disappointment is PWKH doesn't post in here anymore - he would at least clarify if a deal has been set up.

Danceswithhorses · Jun 26, 2014

Grendel said:
I think you are missing the point.

This scenario is possible;

Someone wants to create some more negative headlines.
They conclude a good headline for kcic is "sisu do not want to double attendances in Coventry for free"
They use Michael Orton to front this.
Sisu call the bluff and accept talks.
They want to discuss some of this over the phone. Its decided this can be used as a get out of jail card - sisu will not talk.
There is no deal. There was no deal. A plan aimed at mischief went wrong and one person now carries the can while others stay away waiting for another escapade.
Now this could be wrong and is pure conjecture. The only way to prove this is show the deal and the investors.

So you're saying that this is an(other) anti-SISU conspiracy ??
Crikey they don't have much luck do they.

mark82 · Jun 26, 2014

Nick said:
If that is the case it is massively unfair on Michael.

Could well be true though. I don't see any other reason for Michael not wanting to talk to them.

mark82 · Jun 26, 2014

mark82 said:
Could well be true though. I don't see any other reason for Michael not wanting to talk to them.

And for that matter refusing to answer any questions on the detail. If Sisu did that they would be crucified.

Covstu · Jun 26, 2014

I think the less we all know about the unknow benefactor (s) the better, the amoutn of times in the transfer market where we show our hand too early and the deal falls flat. Plus the fact that there are clearly personal battles going on between certain parties, this could fuel the fire further. The name(s) are irrelavant, its more about the deal on the table and how realistic that deal is.

Nick · Jun 26, 2014

mark82 said:
And for that matter refusing to answer any questions on the detail. If Sisu did that they would be crucified.

Exactly, and it is probably why he didn't want to answer the phone to them in case they asked questions.....

Nick · Jun 26, 2014

wes_cov said:
as you say it's pure conjecture but if Elliot came out and said "ohhh it's me" would that give the offer any more or less credibility?

He should be shot (not literally) for putting Michael in that position and taking advantage and should have just done it himself.

torchomatic · Jun 26, 2014

Less.

wes_cov said:
as you say it's pure conjecture but if Elliot came out and said "ohhh it's me" would that give the offer any more or less credibility?

Monners · Jun 26, 2014

Nick said:
He should be shot (not literally) for putting Michael in that position and taking advantage and should have just done it himself.

Sincerely hope it isn't Elliot, Hoffman etc.. We have been there and done that. If it was a fresh face(s), then once the intial phone call stumbling block has been overcome, then there is an onus on SISU (and I mean TF and/or JS) to respond appropraitely. It may be a flat "No", but at least it treats us fans with a modicum of respect; something which has been thin on the ground.

torchomatic · Jun 26, 2014

mark82 said:
And for that matter refusing to answer any questions on the detail. If Sisu did that they would be crucified.

After months of Michael wanting talks and "all it takes is one phone call", it seems odd that he would threaten to walk away over such trivialities.

Someone is pulling his strings, I reckon.

Nick · Jun 26, 2014

Monners said:
Sincerely hope it isn't Elliot, Hoffman etc.. We have been there and done that. If it was a fresh face(s), then once the intial phone call stumbling block has been overcome, then there is an onus on SISU (and I mean TF and/or JS) to respond appropraitely. It may be a flat "No", but at least it treats us fans with a modicum of respect; something which has been thin on the ground.

I agree, if it is somebody away from all of the crap shit slinging then I more than welcome it.

Grendel · Jun 26, 2014

wes_cov said:
as you say it's pure conjecture but if Elliot came out and said "ohhh it's me" would that give the offer any more or less credibility?

It would give it no credibility.

Jack Griffin · Jun 26, 2014

Grendel said:
Why would someone remain secret? For what aim?

You should ask the camera shy Ms Joy Seppala that question..

sky blue john · Jun 26, 2014

Lol !!
Stirring and attempts to discredit from Grendel !!!
Me thinks sour grapes on Grendels part for being jilted !!

Grendel · Jun 26, 2014

Jack Griffin said:
You should ask the camera shy Ms Joy Seppala that question..

I'd the businessman that shy do you think? Why do you always misdirected posts away from your friends?

torchomatic · Jun 26, 2014

Jack Griffin said:
You should ask the camera shy Ms Joy Seppala that question..

So you would have thought our mystery businessman would have learnt from SISUs mistakes.

Grendel · Jun 26, 2014

sky blue john said:
Lol !!
Stirring and attempts to discredit from Grendel !!!
Me thinks sour grapes on Grendels part for being jilted !!

Given that even people who share your views on here now cringe with embarrassment when you make a post your comment is somewhat amusing.

idm1975 · Jun 26, 2014

Grendel said:
Kcic may have been well intentioned but their attempt to handle the situation resembles the keystone cops on a good day.

There seems to be £1 milion raised if we take the original offer at face value. This would allow rent free football for 3 years surely.

The mystery businessman should unveil himself and take ownership of this. If sisu have an interest all past misgivings should be abondoned and the initiative seized.

If it is not and the mystery man lurks in shadows we are entitled to ask why and is this in fact just a stunt to cause mischief and mayhem - which other not so mystery men appear to have indulged themselves in the past.

It remains a mystery.

How about SISU unmask their investors at the same time? Just for balance of course, would hate people to think that you whre being one sided.

Grendel · Jun 26, 2014

torchomatic said:
So you would have thought our mystery businessman would have learnt from SISUs mistakes.

Unless if course they are as bad as Ms Seppella. I'm amazed Jack also has no faith in the mystery businessman.

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