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Ring Of Steel · Oct 20, 2024

It’s just a feeding frenzy now- get him out, fuck him off, sling him out the door. In my view the venom on show against Robins is really disappointing.

Doesn’t matter what reason or thought you put up to support the stance that now isn’t the right time to sack him, you’re then just promptly told you’re saying he’s “blameless”.

Evo1883 · Oct 20, 2024

If this was any other clubs fans behaving like this towards a manager who's done so much for them , most fans on here would rightly be calling them out for their ridiculousness .

I've seen it before , some fans on here were outraged when birmingham sacked john eustace who did absolutely nothing for the club

stupot07 · Oct 20, 2024

The problem is isn't not just this season

Since beating Leeds in April our record in the league is

Played 17
Won 2
Drew 3
Lost 12

And we are already well behind our poor start from last season.

Evo1883 · Oct 20, 2024

stupot07 said:
The problem is isn't not just this season

Since beating Leeds in April our record in the league is

Played 17
Won 2
Drew 3
Lost 12

But let's be real , fans at the time were happy that the club prioritised the cup with a small depleted squad and now are bring it up because it suits the narrative ?

Another weird thing

Sky Blue Goblin · Oct 20, 2024

Evo1883 said:
But let's be real , fans at the time were happy that the club prioritised the cup with a small depleted squad and now are bring it up because it suits the narrative ?

Another weird thing

I think it’s more most assumed it was too do with the cup run and are now concerned that instead of seemingly getting better now the cup is over, it’s seemed to continue.

Brighton Sky Blue · Oct 20, 2024

Evo1883 said:
But let's be real , fans at the time were happy that the club prioritised the cup with a small depleted squad and now are bring it up because it suits the narrative ?

Another weird thing

Blaming the FA Cup when performances had started to dip from the PNE home game onwards

Sky Blue Goblin · Oct 20, 2024

Ring Of Steel said:
It’s just a feeding frenzy now- get him out, fuck him off, sling him out the door. In my view the venom on show against Robins is really disappointing.

Doesn’t matter what reason or thought you put up to support the stance that now isn’t the right time to sack him, you’re then just promptly told you’re saying he’s “blameless”.

Yeah I hear you on this. I think the issue is, you see so much it’s Doug fault, the new coaches fault or the performance directors, people just dog pile anyone.

Understand his record and history in regards to why people want to keep him.

Evo1883 · Oct 20, 2024

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Blaming the FA Cup when performances had started to dip from the PNE home game onwards

We won 4 of the 6 games after preston , so no it wasn't then , but we were already on a cup run at this point and into the 5th round

Evo1883 · Oct 20, 2024

Sky Blue Goblin said:
I think it’s more most assumed it was too do with the cup run and are now concerned that instead of seemingly getting better now the cup is over, it’s seemed to continue.

Last seasons end is absolutely in no way shape or form related to this season.

Ring Of Steel · Oct 20, 2024

Evo1883 said:
We won 4 of the 6 games after preston , so no it wasn't then , but we were already on a cup run at this point and into the 5th round

this is what I mean- distorting, reaching, revisionism- all to justify the venom.

Sky Blue Goblin · Oct 20, 2024

Evo1883 said:
Last seasons end is absolutely in no way shape or form related to this season.

Feel that’s too easy to say tho especially when we have one of the highest squad retention in the league.

Cracks were showing last year and don’t seem to have been addressed. After all it doesn’t live in a bubble, players carry through seasons.

Chris1987 · Oct 20, 2024

Evo1883 said:
When asked about dovin , Robins said " apparantly he's a good keeper "

If you think robins is identifying and signing these players , I've got some magic beans to sell you

He might be saying yes or no , but let's be honest most of the work is done by recruitment and that will still happen should Robins leave

So if he's saying yes or no it's down to him isn't it ?

Sky Blue Goblin · Oct 20, 2024

Ring Of Steel said:
this is what I mean- distorting, reaching, revisionism- all to justify the venom.

Feel this is happening on both sides imo though. Whether it’s venom at Robins or Doug

Evo1883 · Oct 20, 2024

Chris1987 said:
So if he's saying yes or no it's down to him isn't it ?

Why would he not trust the people in charge of identifying the players ?

Evo1883 · Oct 20, 2024

Sky Blue Goblin said:
Feel that’s too easy to say tho especially when we have one of the highest squad retention in the league.

Cracks were showing last year and don’t seem to have been addressed. After all it doesn’t live in a bubble, players carry through seasons.

Our form was tremendous up until we started going deeper into the cup with a small squad .. that's something you can't argue against because it's in black and white

Sky Blue Goblin · Oct 20, 2024

Evo1883 said:
Our form was tremendous up until we started going deeper into the cup with a small squad .. that's something you can't argue against because it's in black and white

And I get that but the same issues we had against QPR last game are the same we currently have.

The silly goals have been happening since the 5th round and we’ve struggled to score. At some point it can’t just be fatigue

Chris1987 · Oct 20, 2024

Evo1883 said:
Why would he not trust the people in charge of identifying the players ?

It was you that said that he's saying yes or no not me. If this is the case then it is obviously down to him if a player is signed I totally understand your reasons for standing by MR . Just to clarify are you of the opinion that he is blameless for the poor start to the season ?

Evo1883 · Oct 20, 2024

Sky Blue Goblin said:
And I get that but the same issues we had against QPR last game are the same we currently have.

The silly goals have been happening since the 5th round and we’ve struggled to score. At some point it can’t just be fatigue

The squad still lacks experience and proper leaders .

That has to be addressed whoever is in charge

Evo1883 · Oct 20, 2024

Chris1987 said:
It was you that said that he's saying yes or no not me. If this is the case then it is obviously down to him if a player is signed I totally understand your reasons for standing by MR . Just to clarify are you of the opinion that he is blameless for the poor start to the season ?

No he has a part to play

Sky Blue Goblin · Oct 20, 2024

Evo1883 said:
The squad still lacks experience and proper leaders .

That has to be addressed whoever is in charge

100% and said so above, all though we still had leaders through that patch with Kelly and godden.

But it paints a picture when is the same issues plaguing the squad and while I don’t blame Robins 100% he is paid very well to resolve them either via tactics or coaching

Sky Blue Goblin · Oct 20, 2024

Also curiously have we ever had a squad this young under Robins?

Evo1883 · Oct 20, 2024

Sky Blue Goblin said:
100% and said so above, all though we still had leaders through that patch with Kelly and godden.

But it paints a picture when is the same issues plaguing the squad and while I don’t blame Robins 100% he is paid very well to resolve them either via tactics or coaching

And we've got no reason to trust he won't sort it out .

fernandopartridge · Oct 20, 2024

Deity said:
He appointed the head of recruitment, he has the final say on transfers ( his words, not mine ) , he coaches the team, he selects the team, he selects the formation, he decides the subs, etc etc

If you don’t think Robins is accountable then im
Lost for words.

I've not said he isn't accountable you clown. He's not solely accountable is what I'm saying. The cost of the squad is literally fuck all to do with him.

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Boicey · Oct 20, 2024

I suspect at the moment a large majority of fans still back Robins. That may change quite quickly if we enter the relegation zone for a few weeks.
My main problem with him is he still does not to know his best 11 and best style of play. His chopping and changing just drains confidence even further.
With the wiping away the tears thing I hope we are not entering the Micky Adams cupping his ear and 'you don't know what you're doing' phase....

fernandopartridge · Oct 20, 2024

Evo1883 said:
Haji wright did miss a great chance but scored a legitimate goal that was chalked.. simms time and time again let's his side down

He's not scored in almost 80% of his league matches

The difference between Wright and Simms is night and day, the latter is barely involved in games. Whereas Wright always, even when not in form, offers a meaningful threat.

Personally, I think Simms needs a prolonged spell out of the team, perhaps even put him out on loan.

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Sky Blue Goblin · Oct 20, 2024

Evo1883 said:
And we've got no reason to trust he won't sort it out .

I hope so, would love to be wrong but I just think it’s getting away from him. Think he’s struggling with the man management of a younger squad who are failing so below club expectations without the leaders to help him on and off the pitch

Nick · Oct 20, 2024

Evo1883 said:
And we've got no reason to trust he won't sort it out .

Well it's been the same for months so how long is enough to trust it will be sorted?

Evo1883 · Oct 20, 2024

Nick said:
Well it's been the same for months so how long is enough to trust it will be sorted?

He's still got plenty in the bank for most fans

Nick · Oct 20, 2024

Evo1883 said:
He's still got plenty in the bank for most fans

Enough for relegation to be acceptable?

A relegation battle isn't even acceptable.

Grendel · Oct 20, 2024

fernandopartridge said:
The difference between Wright and Simms is night and day, the latter is barely involved in games. Whereas Wright always, even when not in form, offers a meaningful threat.

Personally, I think Simms needs a prolonged spell out of the team, perhaps even put him out on loan.

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Simms let’s be honest has been atrocious - he has as much movement as a lamppost.

Wright at least has real talent, pace and movement.

Simms frankly this season has been a disgrace.

Sky Blue Goblin · Oct 20, 2024

Nick said:
Enough for relegation to be acceptable?

A relegation battle isn't even acceptable.i

Don’t think anyone would accept relegation, realistically unless we’re battered by Luton and QPR, he’s got imo until November to show he can get a tune out of the players he has

Evo1883 · Oct 20, 2024

Nick said:
Enough for relegation to be acceptable?

A relegation battle isn't even acceptable.

He's done enough here over the years to drown out the cries of desperately sad fans that had almost 17 continuous shit years before him

End of story

Grendel · Oct 20, 2024

Evo1883 said:
He's done enough here over the years to drown out the cries of desperately sad fans that had almost 17 continuous shit years before him

End of story

I genuinely think you’d be surprised how fickle fans are. They’d move on very quickly.

Evo1883 · Oct 20, 2024

Grendel said:
I genuinely think you’d be surprised how fickle fans are. They’d move on very quickly.

Well I struggle with the idea of pushing somebody away that's done do much .

Nick · Oct 20, 2024

Evo1883 said:
He's done enough here over the years to drown out the cries of desperately sad fans that had almost 17 continuous shit years before him

End of story

Surprising he's done enough, now we are doing shit he barely has any responsibility as it's Doug / Scouts / Coaches at fault?

Does that include when he fucked us off for Huddersfield?

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