Tiredness (2 Viewers)

[Nick]

For wanting to play kids that Robins clearly doesn't rate highly enough

And you know he doesn't rate them highly enough to play a half against Maidstone in a game we had already won?

 

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[blunted]

Imagine going to a pub then on to a club, pulling and dragging yourself up after no sleep with a lot of physical activity. That is how our players feel.

 

[Otis]

Wish everyone COULD see that.

Obviously not though. The more knowledgeable fans know better than the manager

Anyway, season is over now.

It's been a ride, but some very upbeat and enjoyable moments.

We got very excited for a while didn't we.

 

[Grendel]

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Wish everyone COULD see that.

Obviously not though. The more knowledgeable fans know better than the manager

Anyway, season is over now.

It's been a ride, but some very upbeat and enjoyable moments.

We got very excited for a while didn't we.

We haven’t been tired for the last 13 league games

 

[PVA]

Anyone who thinks fatigue wasn't a factor in recent performances is frankly chatting shite.

 

[Grendel]

Anyone who thinks fatigue wasn't a factor in recent performances is frankly chatting shite.

Last 13 games?

 

[djr8369]

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Wish everyone COULD see that.

Obviously not though. The more knowledgeable fans know better than the manager

Anyway, season is over now.

It's been a ride, but some very upbeat and enjoyable moments.

We got very excited for a while didn't we.

Yep, in every game since the semi-final it’s been painfully obvious we’ve fielded 2-3 players who shouldn’t have been playing and I’m sure the rest weren’t anywhere near 100%.

 

[SBT]

It is actually possible for players to play shite for more than one reason. Pretty obvious that tiredness has been one of them in the past few weeks.

 

[CovLad94]

It is actually possible for players to play shite for more than one reason. Pretty obvious that tiredness has been one of them in the past few weeks.

Lack of personnel due to injuries.players having to play out-of position (ie Eccles today) and poor bench. Just how it is, fatigue plays a massive factor. Have no doubt we'll be better and stronger next season. Can't wait

 

[SBT]

From Liam Kelly after the game:

“The congestion of games, the FA Cup, it just took it out of everyone. You have seen the amount of injuries we have picked up over the last couple of weeks.

“That is pretty much how the lads are feeling. They are feeling tired, they are feeling worn down, it has been a tough season.”

The gaslighting powers of Mark Robins, ladies and gentlemen!

 

[messiahrobins]

Lack of personnel due to injuries.players having to play out-of position (ie Eccles today) and poor bench. Just how it is, fatigue plays a massive factor. Have no doubt we'll be better and stronger next season. Can't wait

Potentially you are right, IF we keep our best players, and i am worried about that. I have a horrible feeling Wright, Sheaf and MVE will be off. Wright is a magnificent player and i am certain there will be offers for him. MVE looked world class v Man utd at Wembley and already had a fairly big reputation in Europe i think so i can see bids coming in for him. sheaf is as good as gone.

 

[skybluecam]

Potentially you are right, IF we keep our best players, and i am worried about that. I have a horrible feeling Wright, Sheaf and MVE will be off. Wright is a magnificent player and i am certain there will be offers for him. MVE looked world class v Man utd at Wembley and already had a fairly big reputation in Europe i think so i can see bids coming in for him. sheaf is as good as gone.

Playing for a mid table Eredivisie club doesn’t give you a big reputation in Europe

Wright and MVE aren’t leaving, certainly not for less than £20m. Sheaf £15m.

 

[messiahrobins]

Playing for a mid table Eredivisie club doesn’t give you a big reputation in Europe

Wright and MVE aren’t leaving, certainly not for less than £20m. Sheaf £15m.

You have more faith in Doug King than i do. I think he sees this as business and not as a Jack Walker type hobby back in the day so if we made a profit on Wright and MVE i could see him allowing them to go. Hope i am wrong as Wright was my POTY

 

[Hobo]

You have more faith in Doug King than i do. I think he sees this as business and not as a Jack Walker type hobby back in the day so if we made a profit on Wright and MVE i could see him allowing them to go. Hope i am wrong as Wright was my POTY

I know where you are coming from but as a businessman I think he knows success isn't just about making money in the short term but moving the business forward. Otherwise he would not have reinvested in the players he did this season and wouldn't be investing in improving the clubs infrastructure.

His best chance of making a lot of money out of the club is to get it in the Premier League and sell it. However as some clubs are finding there are not loads of billionaires queueing up to buy UK football clubs.

Let's face it Jack Walker couldn't have afforded a modern day Premier League Club and buy the title.

 

[Diogenes]

You have more faith in Doug King than i do. I think he sees this as business and not as a Jack Walker type hobby back in the day so if we made a profit on Wright and MVE i could see him allowing them to go. Hope i am wrong as Wright was my POTY

If he sees it as a business (sensible) then selling at the first opportunity won't progress the long term goals for the business which is to get into the premier league.

For this "model" to work, you can't rely on an endless conveyer belt of stars that you will develop and make a profit on. Without good planning, they will dry up at some point and if you have sold your best players at the first opportunity you will regress.

 

[shmmeee]

Potentially you are right, IF we keep our best players, and i am worried about that. I have a horrible feeling Wright, Sheaf and MVE will be off. Wright is a magnificent player and i am certain there will be offers for him. MVE looked world class v Man utd at Wembley and already had a fairly big reputation in Europe i think so i can see bids coming in for him. sheaf is as good as gone.

We’d genuine have close to £60m to spend. Even I could get us promoted with that.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

If he sees it as a business (sensible) then selling at the first opportunity won't progress the long term goals for the business which is to get into the premier league.

For this "model" to work, you can't rely on an endless conveyer belt of stars that you will develop and make a profit on. Without good planning, they will dry up at some point and if you have sold your best players at the first opportunity you will regress.

You also end up with a load of poor players like Collins on four year contracts. Not all signings like this work.

 

[alfielloyd]

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Wish everyone COULD see that.

Obviously not though. The more knowledgeable fans know better than the manager

Anyway, season is over now.

It's been a ride, but some very upbeat and enjoyable moments.

We got very excited for a while didn't we.

MR suggested the players were tired in February, the question is why and why were our players so much more fatigued than players at other clubs?

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

MR suggested the players were tired in February, the question is why and why were our players so much more fatigued than players at other clubs?

Not enough players… players play more minutes and fatigue accumulates?

 

[shmmeee]

MR suggested the players were tired in February, the question is why and why were our players so much more fatigued than players at other clubs?

First full season at this level for by my count 6/11 first team.

 

[thekidfromstrettoncamp]

We’d genuine have close to £60m to spend. Even I could get us promoted with that.

Have you put your Cv for the Hull job then?
£60m could soon disappear in the wrong hands and have half a team.

 

[messiahrobins]

We’d genuine have close to £60m to spend. Even I could get us promoted with that.

I get us up on football manager with 200k

 

[messiahrobins]

I know where you are coming from but as a businessman I think he knows success isn't just about making money in the short term but moving the business forward. Otherwise he would not have reinvested in the players he did this season and wouldn't be investing in improving the clubs infrastructure.

His best chance of making a lot of money out of the club is to get it in the Premier League and sell it. However as some clubs are finding there are not loads of billionaires queueing up to buy UK football clubs.

Let's face it Jack Walker couldn't have afforded a modern day Premier League Club and buy the title.

Hull City i think prove Doug right thus far in fairness

 

[clint van damme]

First full season at this level for by my count 6/11 first team.

Hasn't it been said before that our training is quite intense?
No idea how it compares to other teams, I cant imagine ours can be much more intensive.

 

[shmmeee]

Hasn't it been said before that our training is quite intense?
No idea how it compares to other teams, I cant imagine ours can be much more intensive.

It’s always taken new players a while to get to “the levels”

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

You'd think at the end of the season with so many games in a short period they'd dial it back a bit.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Hasn't it been said before that our training is quite intense?
No idea how it compares to other teams, I cant imagine ours can be much more intensive.

You'd think at the end of the season with so many games in a short period they'd dial it back a bit.

Robins talks a lot about giving players a rest and has gone in depth on this in interviews previously.

It’s more likely the accumulation of matches because we don’t have the numbers.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Robins talks a lot about giving players a rest and has gone in depth on this in interviews previously.

It’s more likely the accumulation of matches because we don’t have the numbers.

I agree. Even reducing training to little more than stretching the players would still have been knackered.